Ravens Training Camp: Wednesday PM Edition
Since the day was designated as a "plus-30" day and the older veterans had the day off, the afternoon session was only for Special Teams' practice. As I got on the fields, I saw the teams in groups, doing drills such as blocking punts, picking up loose ballls and diving for the ball, as seen below with Tavares Gooden as the example.
On the stairs leading to the locker room, Ray Lewis was holding court.
He was in uniform, but without pads and was joined by Todd Heap and Ravens' Media Relations Director, Chad Steele. They were surrounded by about five or six othe rmedia, so I went up to see what was going one. Ray was leading the debate on what sports were considered "athletic" and the participants as true athletes. When asked if golf''s Tiger Woods was an athlete, Ray shook his head no. He really didn't think Baltimore's own Michael Phelps was an athlete either, at least not compared to football and even basketball players, who he said were the best athletes in all of sport. So I piped in, sarcastically asking, "are you telling me that NASCAR drivers are not athletes?" to hear his response. He made a face and said, "I don't consider anything that does the work for you to be a sport." The debate then centered on how good of athletes are lacrosse and soccer players and could both football and basketball players make the switch to other sports better than vice versa. Former NFL great Jim Brown was an All-American lacrosse player at Syracuse University and reportedly once said that lacrosse was his favorite sport. However, this debate could have gone on for hours had Ray and Todd not left to go to the locker room.
Meanwhile, back on the field, punter Sam Koch was booming punts, including one from his own end zone that returner Jayson Foster let fall and it bounced all the way to the other end of the field, coming to rest on the three yard line!
As practice ended, Ray Rice was trading verbal jabs with Chad Steele, saying he wasn't afraid of Chad's last name and it should be changed to "Paper" instead.
Frank Walker and Lardarius Webb remained on the field to practice techniques on punt coverage. Evan Olglesby did not practice due to a reported mild concussion. Dawan Landry, Derrrick Martin and Antwan Barnes stayed late to sign autographs for the fans. Biron Ealy, who did not practice, was catching passes off the "pitching" machine to stay sharp.
That's it for today.
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When asked if golf’’s Tiger Woods was an athlete, Ray shook his head no.
I wonder how Mr MaLoR’s going to take this.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Aug 5, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
No one has an appreciation for golf. Tiger is one of the most ripped people I have ever seen in person. He has the body of a linebacker.
People just don’t understand.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 5, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously. Golf should get its own cable channel so everybody can see these athletes at the peak of human ability tearing ass through the course in a golf cart while guzzling beer.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Aug 6, 2009 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Golf is one of the most played sports in the world. That is why it has its own channel. There are more aspects in the game of golf then there is in any other sport.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 6, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure there is.
For me, winning isn't something that happens suddenly on the field when the whistle blows and the crowds roar. Winning is something that builds physically and mentally every day that you train and every night that you dream.
by iLL on Aug 6, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are more aspects in the game of golf then there is in any other sport.
More aspects than any other sport than frisbee golf. Now there’s a real athlete’s game.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Aug 6, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can all perish in hell.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 6, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone here ever caddied before?
I do that for pocket money over the summer and have to carry 2 huge bags for 36 holes sometimes, which is equivalent to having about 50 pounds on your shoulders and walking roughly 10-12 miles in the heat. Probably 95% of the people here are conditioned to do that.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 6, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are not*
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 6, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big old fat guys play golf
They don’t play football, basketball (well) or even soccer, plus they can’t swim, they sink!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 7, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not right now
I watched the Buick and Tiger has clearly put on a few pounds(Not compared to other golfers, just compared to Tiger a few years ago). He is not “ripped” now like he was in the past. Probably still trying to get back in top shape after his surgery.
by DT711 on Aug 6, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea
The surgery did that to him. But I remember I went to Congressional in DC to see him in 2003, and I was amazed at how big he was. His arms were enormous.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 6, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No question
Woods may be an athlete, but a lot of the other guys….?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 7, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
Tiger is built like a safety.
For me, winning isn't something that happens suddenly on the field when the whistle blows and the crowds roar. Winning is something that builds physically and mentally every day that you train and every night that you dream.
by iLL on Aug 6, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But hits like a kicker!?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 6, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate all of you. Jon Daly is officially the greatest athlete in the world, hands down. He makes Shaun Rodgers look like McLovin.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 6, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best Athletes
Rugby players are by far the best athletes I have ever seen. No question. There are a dozen flankers around the world that could come in and dominate at OLB for example… problem is they make an insane amount of money compared to NFL players and would never do it.
by ATXRaven on Aug 5, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats the problem with Football and BBall players...
they think they’re the most conditioned and coordinated people on earth. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE FOOTBALL, however there is no way that most football players can run at full speed for 90 minutes with nearly no breaks like soccer players. Everyone thinks soccer players are pussies because they milk collisions and take dives, when in reality they’re just trying to win a foul and more importantly a breather.
by bmf12116 on Aug 5, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bmf12116....
Trevor Pryce said that exact thing to the B-more Sun the other day. He plays in an indoor soccer league during the offseason to keep in shape, and he said that almost no one in the NFL could compete with soccer players. He said it is much more exerting. Look up the article….
by Rayisyourdaddy on Aug 6, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if no one has seen this. “wacko like flacco”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H8xfBeVrJE
"Going over the hitters it was decided that we should pitch Frank Robinson underground." - Jim Bouton
by neptunerav on Aug 5, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was absolutely incredible
I love Bmore rappers. You ever heard of Conscious? He is from Baltimore and is really good as well.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 5, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That video
was ill! I’ve heard of Conscious too. . . headed to youtube next to see what I can turn up. A friend o mine by the name of Wax from Calvert County is makin moves and has song out called “Sunday in the City” that traces his relocation from baltimore to san diego to hollywood. If you’ve got any interest whatsoever he’s got a free download of it on his website. It’s worth a listen and, to make it relevant here, it’s got an obligatory Ravens reference. http://waxdotcom.com/ DL link: http://www.zshare.net/audio/63645103ad39d46e/
by robgoose on Aug 6, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish people in Baltimore knew what hockey was lol. Grew up playing the sport, and I feel it’s an injustice not even to be mentioned at all on this entire page.
by bigmac1124 on Aug 5, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s like soccer on ice, except without all the pansies trying to draw cards.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Aug 5, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I played ice hockey in college
and it’s like lacrosse but on skates, which makes it a tougher sport to play at a high level. Hockey players, b-ball and soccer are probably the best athletes. Many football players are not in the cardiovascular shape of those guys across the board. Even swimming,as the training regimen of Phelps was legendary when he was preparing for the Olympics. But football players are proud and loyal to their sport, as you can tell!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 6, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Long time ago
University of Hartford (1976-80). Ouch, yes that old! Also went to the Philadelphia Flyers Summer Camp in ‘72 and ’73, when they were Stanley Cup Champs. Played with Bobby Clarke, Cowboy Bill Plett, Dave, the Hammer Schultz’ brother, Ray, and coach Fred Shero’s son, Rajean. It was a blast!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 6, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then he woke up…..
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 6, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry triathlete and swimmers win by a mile
A world class swimmer and triathlete have to have almost every muscle in their body in top shape and have almost no body fat. Have a soccer play swim 2.4 miles then ride a bike 112 miles and then finish the day or running 26 miles. Oh and do all of this one after another with no break and finish under 8 1/2 hours to have any chance to win. Welcome to the Ironman…
asmodeus1971
by asmodeus on Aug 5, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
From a cardio perspective yes, but...
…they were talking about athletic ability. Who can use their skills to play other sports successfully. There are a lot of football players who were excellent hoops players. Not too many swimmers could play football or even basketball.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 6, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
your keys have the wrong letters written on them
by Ravens Boner on Aug 6, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have had this conversation before
It’s a long one, but we agreed that Nascar drivers, golfers, and even swimmers are athletes. I am willing to except this. And i don’t think it’s like when my mom watches Rachael Ray and they call everyone “heroes.” What is a hero? Is a guy who has quintuplets a hero?
by Ravens Boner on Aug 6, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No.
His social life is over.
For me, winning isn't something that happens suddenly on the field when the whistle blows and the crowds roar. Winning is something that builds physically and mentally every day that you train and every night that you dream.
by iLL on Aug 6, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They all might be athletes
but we were talking about which sport had the BEST athletes, and that’s why it seemed to come down to team sports such as hoops and football, although personally I think ice hockey players are in as good a shape as any, as there are no fat or even chunky hockey players, while there are in football and even a few in hoops (I guess some hockey goalies are thicker). I’d wedge Ngata betweenthe pipes and make him the goalie!
aka 'Rexx'
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