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Stop Worrying - It's Only Pre-Season

After the Baltimore Ravens second victory of the pre-season, it almost seems as if so many fans are worried about what they perceive as shortcomings on both sides of the ball from what they've witnessed. The offensive line lacks depth, the pass blocking has been suspect, the run defense has been soft and the secondary isn't physical enough.

While all of these recent complaints have been seen here on Baltimore Beatdown, posted by loyal readers and knowledgable Ravens fans, we need to keep repeating, "it's only pre-season, it's only pre-season..."

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Head Coach John Harbaugh plus his competent assistants are going through their processes of looking at so many different players, combinations, formations and other strategies that the outcomes, while it's nice to win as much as possible, are insignificant for the most part at this point of the year. How many times do we need to remind our fans that the Detroit Lions went 4-0 in their exhibition games last season and went on to go winless in the regular season? I remember one year early in the Ravens history that we did the same thing in pre-season, only to lose to the Pittsburgh Steelers in the opening game of the regular season on our way to what was then another losing season.

If you really want to see what the coaches are looking at during these meaningless games, with "meaningless" defined as the outcomes, try to figure out what roster spots are open for competition and watch those players that are reported to be fighting for those spots. Whether or not Ray Lewis or Ed Reed makes a play, or if Joe Flacco connects on a pass, or if Willis McGahee fights for that extra yard falls into that "meaningless" category. They're just getting ready for the long haul of the regular season, getting the cobwebs out and mentally preparing themselves as they have in the past. They'll be fine and will give their best efforts once the games count.

The key benefit of these games are to find out who is going to fill out the roster and in what combinations in certain situations. Who are the best group of guys to work together on all of the different Special Teams (field goal-kicking and blocking, punting/kickoff-kicking and receiving), as well as the different packages on both offense and defense. For the most part, probably 45 or so positions on the 53 man roster are probably already set in the coaching staff's minds. There might be a player or two picked up through other teams' cuts beginning next week and there'as still always a chance a free agent signing or dare I bring up, a trade happens. While the last two options are slim and none, the others are definite possibilities.

As we get closer to the first cut down date of September 1st, when teams need to trim their rosters down to 75 players, we'll begin to look at the specific players fighting for those last few roster spots. For now, the third pre-season game this Saturday will decide a few significant things. First of all, it will have the starters playing their longest amount of time in the pre-season, probably most if not all of the first half. After this game, the veteran starters will play only a series or two in the final exhibition game to prepare for the start of the regular season the following week. More than likely, most of the key position battles will be decided in this game, so watching those competitions, such as placekicking, and depth at the wide receiver and cornerback reserves should be most interesting.

Until the regular season starts, don't dispair on the trends you are seeing during these early exhibition games. Our pass protection in the fourth quarter is totally made up of reserves, which will never happen during the regular season. Same goes on the other side of the ball. So have confidence that our defense, as well as our offense, will rise to the occasion once the ball is snapped for real on September 13th. Relax and enjoy that football season is upon us.

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I'm just happy to see football on my TV

and to hear that beautiful CBS song: DUUUUUN-DUN-DUN-DUUUN-dun-DUN

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 26, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

woa the thingy messed up my music

I was trying to sing the CBS football theme song via text. I guess that wouldn’t have worked anyway.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 26, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wanting to be great, not good, is the source of my criticism. i can spout a million good things about the ravens, but i’m super professionally analyzing the talent on my TV screen. i see game and comment on game. outside of my flat screen i have no control.

by raven on Aug 26, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree for the most part...

…but wide receiver is still an issue that needs to be addressed. I’l buy that it was the scrubs in the system that gummed up the works in the second half, but you can’t deny that outside of Derrick Mason (and Justin Harper in games, not practice) we haven’t seen much from the group we have. Preseason is a place where a star could emerge. I’m not sold on Harper and Washington is awful. So, we need to go out and get someone or we’ll have this preseason problem in the regular season as well.

by JWILLS on Aug 26, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Washington has been a good addition

Please explain why you think he has been awful?

by DT711 on Aug 26, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I don’t understand that comment either.

I think that Washington may make his career in Baltimore.

by BAL_Hawk on Aug 26, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i was thinking the same thing

he’s been solid, what’s wrong with him?

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 26, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess its just me and Anita Marks then

He’s caught three passes in two games and couldn’t beat out a 5’10’’ Lito Shepperd in the end zone. He’s a trash heap receiver. He did nothing for New England and had one decent year in CIncy as a third option WR. The question is what have YOU seen to make you think that he is the answer for the Ravens.

by JWILLS on Aug 26, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahhahahaahah

dude he caught three passes in two PRESEASON games when he wasn’t even getting a lot of reps! God forbid he didn’t beat Lito Shepperd, it’s not like he’s ever been to two pro bowls or anything.

Nobody is saying he’s the “answer” homie, but he’s good compared to what we have and you’re crazy to say he’s “awful.” The guy has long arms and reliable hands, and he’s played well in practice so that pretty much makes him better than a lot of our other options at WR. Tell me, since you’re the new GM and all, who should be getting Kelly’s reps?

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look who he was behind!

in both Cincy and NE! He was a great receiver in college but was stuck behind 85 and TJ in Cincy and Randy and Wes in NE. Now he has been patient and great on Special Teams and has his chance w/ us to step up. He is a very good receiver and can be Flacco’s go to guy here, if given the chance.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 27, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hope ur right

So he’s the tallest midget? You can’t argue that we are weak at that position. Maybe he’ll prove to be the answer, and I’ll admit my mistake if he is. But why stand pat and not try to find an upgrade, whether it’s Brandon Marshall or Marvin Harrison. Reggie Brown is on the radar now too. I would rate all of them higher than Washington.

by JWILLS on Aug 27, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think what you meant to say was
You can’t argue that we areN’T weak at that position.

Yeah, we’re weak at WR, IMO. I was just having this conversation with a friend of mine, and we agreed that in two years, we should have drafted and/or signed enough players to have replaced at least 4 of these current 6 wide receivers. This year will either make or break Clayton and Washington, while Figurs contract is about to end as well as Williams. Then you have Mason, who’s going to retire, and Justin harper looks like he sucks. So these current WRs are almost all temporary fixes.

But as such—a temporary fix—I’m happy with what K-Wash brings to the table.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in fact

it’s conceivable that in two years, none of our current WRs will still be on the team. Perhaps unlikely that we’ll dump every single one, but not impossible. I could see it happening. You draft two WRs next year and sign one, and then the next year you do the same thing. Throw some low-level trade in there and we may well have replaced every single one of these receivers two years from now.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not Reggie Brown

ALL of our WR’s are as good or even better than him!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 27, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES. SIR. +1

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can argue that we are not weak at WR

We have the same group that has gotten us to 13-3 and 11-5 and the AFCC. I will take that group any day if it can lead us to the playoffs. Are we better than the Pats, Colts, Cardinals? No we are not, but we have IMO the best route runner in the NFL in Mason and a group of guys behind him are very competitive.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 27, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the best route runner in the NFL?

they just say that because he’s slow. Come on now.

The guys behind him are only competitive with one another. On other teams, perhaps all of those WRs could be cut, with the lone exception of Clayton. Haper is destined for the practice squad. Williams is fragile. Washington was the league’s trash and now we’re trying—with some success so far—to make him our treasure. So, having said that, perhaps our 3rd best receiver in Washington was cut from his last two teams. Ergo, weak at WR.

MaLoR, honestly, tell me how many of these current six WRs we have will be on the team in 2 years?

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and they don't LEAD us to the playoffs

they’re just on the team when it happens. And frankly, our lack of playmaking ability at WR has a lot to do with why we didn’t get to the Super Bowl in 2006 or 2008. Tell me I’m wrong.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

…why we didn’t get to the Super Bowl in 2006…

To be fair, the quarterback has to be able to hold on to the ball long enough to throw it to the receiver.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Aug 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our failure to score on 1st and goal when we passed for some reason against IndY in 2006 which was intercepted. we get that score, we might win that game. Our failure to tackle Santonio Holmes on a broken 50 yard play is a reason we are not in the superbowl as well. Our failure to stop Ben from driving 95 yards on us is a reason we are not in the superbowl. Our failure to run the ball against Indy in 2006 is a reason we are not in the superbowl that year. Brian Billick is a reason we were not in the super bowl.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok

I’m just saying, how many receivers from two years ago are still on the team? Two? Three? What happened to Randy Hymes? Clarence Moore? These are the type of players we’ve let go of and picked up all over again.

Obviously we COULD have won with those receivers, just like we CAN win with these receivers now. But the situation at receiver was, and is, far from desireable. Our receivers aren’t the worst in the NFL, but they’re easily bottom ten, perhaps bottom five. Name me ten teams whose WRs you WOULDN’T want over ours. I bet you can’t.

And to Ampallang, true, McNair deserves most of the blame for that game. Him and Billick’s overly conservative playcalling. But still, it doesn’t help we’ve never had a WR who could really stretch the field and threaten opposing defensive coordinators.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rams, Jets, Jaguars, 49ers, Seahawks, Bears, Dolphins, Raiders, Redskins, Titans.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 27, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

almost but...

Seahawks got us with TJ and John Carlson. So they’ve got better receivers than we do.

That’s a good list. You made me feel slightly better. Slightly.

In any event, we’re probably bottom 12.

I guess you might also throw Tampa in there, since besides Antonio Bryant, their next best guy is… Maurice Stovall? ooooooooooooooo…

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will take Mason, Clayton Heap and Smith over TJ and Carlson. They have no proven number 2 guy while we have Clayton, who is a great #2.

I was about to throw Tampa in there, by Bryant is nasty.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that you know of...

a lot of people outside of Baltimore would say “Clayton who? How is he proven at anything?” He had one good year, the rest has been spectacularly unspectacular.

I’d easily take TJ and Carlson and whoever else fills in the rest of those roster spots over what we have now. In a heartbeat. And for all we know, their backups are better than ours. I personally don’t frequent their blog so I don’t know anything about their training camp.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

I just looked at their roster, Deon Branch and Nat Burelson as 2 and 3. I still would not take them over ours. They may be better, but I do not think that our passing game would improve as much as we all want it to with that group.

But hey, gotta give me credit for giving you 10 teams that I know most people definitely would not take over ours when you said I couldnt. I mean, look at those teams WR, you should be thankful we do not have theirs. The Rams and Jets group is horrible.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i do give you credit

actually, i DID give you credit in the last comment. but no matter. Our WRs still suck, they might just be top-20 mediocre. They may just barely escape the bottom 12.

But Housh, Branch, Burleson, and Carlson, is like twice as good as our WR corps. No debating that. Yes, it would clearly make us better.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's better than us?

Not too sure if can give you those guys until they beat us this season. We don’t play some of them that you mentioned so until we play them in the playoffs or Super Bowl it just don’t matter. I’m planning on going 16-0 but doubt it. However, I think we have a chance to win every game and not too many teams can say that going into the season.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 27, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Listen

Did you expect Joe to come out and just launch it to our guys every game? Hell no. I think with the offensive line we now have, Joe will have all day to get the ball out. A lot of people forget to realize how good our O-Line can be. You give a QB 4-6 seconds on passing plays, it does not matter who is your WR, they will find a way to get open.

You have no right to put the full blame on the WR for us not being in the Superbowl in 2006 and 2008.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 27, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have no right? woah, buddy, I'm a FAN i have EVERY right!

look, i’m not even saying they’re SOLELY responsible for those losses, but they would have been totally different games if we had better weapons at receiver. That’s not an opinion that’s a fact.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

I am just trying not to get into this situation again because a ugly side of me came out in April when we did not draft anyone or make any moves for a big time guy. I am just trying to keep thinking positive and that these guys can take Joe to over 3,000 yards.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so you're admitting that you're in complete denial

its fine man, it hurts me too. To think what we could do if we had a real threat at WR makes me shiver. We’d be a complete menace.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not denial

Because I have faith that this group can indeed take Joe over the 3,000 mark, which is was like 5 yards short of last year. We are forgetting the TE situation. Heap I think will have a huge year and account for about 600 yards and 40-50 completions this year. Also LJ Smith will help.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 27, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to summarize

my opinion on our WRs is:

it is a generally weak group. Mason is really the only proven playmaker, and even he would be best utilized on another team as a #2 receiver at this stage in his career. While we CAN win a superbowl with this group, most outside of Baltimore would say that is unlikely.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what i said was
our lack of playmaking ability at WR has a lot to do with why we didn’t get to the Super Bowl in 2006 or 2008

so at no point did i put the “full blame” on them.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes definitely just you and anita marks.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't want to follow Marks

She is a “foreigner” to Baltimore and just doesn’t get it. Thinks we need to become a pass happy team and the rest of our receivers other than Mason are crap and will never amount to anything. If she was a male, not only would she have never been hired here, she’d be laughed out even more than she is by every knowledgeable fan.

God help Scott Garceau, who must have the patience of a saint qand hate his bosses for pairing him w/ her.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 27, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i can hear her adams apple rumbling about

during her broadcasts. she sounds like the type of woman who could kick your ass. not sexy.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that a challenge?
she sounds like the type of woman who could kick your ass

One judo chop to the adam’s apple and a swift kick to the nuts and she’d be done.

by DT711 on Aug 27, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my rule is...

I never hit women. Except for women who think they’re tough and want to hit men while still thinking we won’t hit them back. If a woman hits me first, I hit her like a man, so she can know how privelaged she was in the first place to have been in the “not getting punched” category that most women enjoy. Not a slap, but a closed-fist punch.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was amazed when I saw her

that she was supposedly in Playboy!?

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 27, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If a woman hits me first, I hit her like a man…

I seriously LoL’ed.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Aug 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anita looks like a cross between Rod Stewart and The Noid from Dominos Pizza.

by raven on Aug 27, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Noid was one sexy lady.

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

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by raven on Aug 27, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garceau is pretty good, me thinks

Sandusky is allright, but Tom Davis is such a blind homer and embarrassing to even listen to, as he has no spine anymore and actually gets mad at callers who call in and criticize the Orioles. Imagine that!?

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 28, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He

didn’t get a lot of reps, and pretty much every corner is 5’10." No one is saying he is the answer. No one has ever said he is the answer. But he’s a great addition in my opinion. We knew what we were getting when we got him and he’s at least reached his expectations.

by Ravens Boner on Aug 27, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

K-Wash has been super

and will make a better imnpact on the offense than most anyone else we bring in. Give it up, Boldin or Marshall are just not cominghere and besides, we are a run-first offense and will just fine.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 26, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I would not be surprised to see Washington become Flacco’s 2nd favorite. We all know mason will be the guy to get the most throws his way, but 2nd on that list may be Washington. Flacco has to like the idea of having a 6’3 220 guy who has great hands and decent speed. I expect this guy to be the one to make the tough graps over the middle and also down the field. D.Williams will most likely be the 3rd WR, but I don’t believe he will stay healthy enough to keep his job.

FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Benji5203 on Aug 27, 2009 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We straight, no need to worry BB.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 26, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brian Billick?

Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.

by Ampallang on Aug 26, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are so witty.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 26, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

K-Wash has some swagger and toughness. i like him. i did like Foster until he alligator armed going across the middle. i guess at 5’10" i’d think 5 times too.

Mason, Washington and Harper might be it folks.

by raven on Aug 26, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Notice how Joe didn't look for him so much?

Lack of confidence that he shouldn’t invest the time as D-Will will end up on the sidelines anyway!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 27, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i get negative vibes from D-Will

very negative. He just doesn’t seem to run with the hunger that he’s going to go out and grab that damn ball. I’ll take K-Wash over him just because he seems to want it more.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

D-Will is built like a classic WR

Tall, fast and big. If he could stay healthy, he could be a force. But that is a huge “IF!”

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Aug 27, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

microsoft word doesn't have a font big enough for that "IF"

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 27, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"IF"

D-Will breaks a nail, we may have serious problems. Maybe if he put eye black under both eyes he will avoid more dangerous collisions. I’m just joking. I really like him and hope he stays around all season [for once].

by Ravens Boner on Aug 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i personally have a hard time liking anybody who i have to “hope” will be around for a whole season for his first time.

once he does that and produces well, i’ll like him. But i have the feeling he’ll become expendable after another partial season.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell

by jackmca on Aug 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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