Ravens' Tony Fein Arrested
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 24, 2009 9:59 AM EDT
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PrintThe Baltimore Ravens rookie linebacker, Tony Fein, was arrested last night at a Harborplace restaurant. Reportedly, a police officer thought he saw Fein pass a gun to another guest at the table. Apparently what he saw was Fein passing a cell phone to a friend. Upon approach and questioning, there was an altercation in which a police officer was alledgedly shoved, thus the arrest being made.
Ravens Senior Vice President of Public & Community Relations Kevin Byrne released the following statement regarding Fein's arrest:
"Like all citizens, Tony will get his due process and have his opportunity to explain. There are two sides to every story."
Click here to see the story posted on BaltimoreRavens.com.
Fein was just interviewed by Baltimore Beatdown this past week about the Ravens 'Military Appreciation Day' and his past military service. He is a longshot to make the team due to the Ravens depth at the position, but he comes off as such a nice and respectful person that this definitely seems like a case of harassment or dare I say, racial profiling, as Fein's agent has been quoted as stating.
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He probably dished the gun to Ray Ray who was then able to dish it off to a 3rd party, which confused the cop and he was unable to find the gun. Is that play in your playbook guys?
yeah.
eventually the gun wound up with reed, after a complicated string of laterals. after reviewing the play, the referee concluded that there were no forward laterals and Reed legally ran the gun back to the inner harbor to tie it to a brick and safely sink it to avoid any criminal charges.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
Johnny, I was loving your boy Max Starks the other night.
If he keeps getting called for holding, I just might need to get me a starks jersey.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
On behalf of the Steelers organization we are glad to accept any money you want to put into our organization. After all, we are paying a lot of money for Starts to hold those defensive players.
by John Stephens on Aug 24, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
i'll just have to burglarize
goods from the Steelers fan store of retail value equivalent to the purchase of my Colon jersey to balance things out.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
er, starks jersey. although Colon is probably worse so i like him more.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
Buy a Carey Davis jersey, too
Maybe if you’re lucky he’ll be stopped short on a crucial 3rd and 1 against you guys after being hit in the open field by someone 50 pounds lighter than him. Better hurry, though, before he gets cut(Isn’t self-delusion fun?). Sorry, just venting.
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte
by LV Steelers Fan on Aug 24, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i love reed's wristband
he wears a band with the following Michael Jordan quote:
“Once I get the ball, you’re at my mercy.”
Ed Reed is the man. You can take your pick between Polamalu and Reed, but the scariness of that man running with the ball is unique. I don’t think there has ever been a player in the NFL who was more of a threat running with the ball after an interception. Anytime he touches the ball is a good time to be a Ravens fan.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
but back to the story
I predict that the DA will drop any charges against Fein. Whether or not he makes the team is another story.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
I doubt it
as he was barely getting reps anywhere other than scout team stuff. Too bad as he is a great guy, very respectful but many will say he got cut because of this, which woold not be the case.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 24, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
judging by the ravens' public comments
they’re not too down on him for this arrest. so i agree that if he gets cut it wasn’t because of this unfortunate incident.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
…but the scariness of that man running with the ball is unique.
I think I’d be at least as scared after Ngata pulled down an interception. He’s apparently getting pretty good at it.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
in a related story
Haloti Ngata will be participating in this year’s NBA Dunk Contest
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
Dang
Why Can’t our LB’s stay out of trouble?!!!!
If alcohol didn't exist the Irish would conquer the world.
i go rid of my big shiney phone as soon as I heard about this story. i don’t want any trouble when I’m eating my Hawaiian pancakes at I-Hop.
the phenomenon
is that cops can usually correctly identify a white person’s shiny silver cell phone as a shiny silver cell phone. What is really interesting is that darker skin tones tend to make that cell phone look more like a gun. Wallets can also be more easily mistaken for guns when black people are holding them. See, for a cop, black people have no money, so how could they have wallets or cell phones? They must all be guns!
Ah, seriously though, I should give the cops a break. I suppose it’s better to have bad cops than no cops.
But to drive the point home, here’s a story:
Once upon a time, my father’s car was stolen. That car was then recovered by the police, returned to us, and re-registered with the MVA as a non-stolen car. But the guys at the police department never got it into their system that our car wasn’t stolen anymore, so one day…
I’m pulling off onto North Ave to get some gas. As I am pumping gas, I notice an officer with “AUTO THEFT” written across his bulletproof jacket, holding a shotgun. He is calmly approaching me. I also notice that two Chevy Tahoes have blocked off both exits to the gas station. The cop casually asks me, “Sir, was your car recently stolen?” I say, “Yes, sir. That was a few years ago, but yes, it was stolen.”
He responds, “OK, there was a slight glitch in our system and we thought you were in fact driving a stolen car. Had you not stopped here and made this easy, we would have had to box you in and remove you from the vehicle with guns drawn.”
“Wow, glad you didn’t do that,” I said. He returned to his Tahoe and drove off.
I was left to wonder how different that exchange would have been if I hadn’t been a white guy. Any thoughts?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
So he just took your word for it?
He didn’t ask to see your license and registration to confirm your response. If not, then I guess that anyone can just say “yeah, it’s my car” and get off. That is, anyone not “DWB.”
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 26, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
dude i'm dead serious
he didn’t ask for any sort of ID at all, he just walked away.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
now that i'm going over it again inmy head
he may have seen some sort of information on the profile of the vehicle to tip him off to the fact that it may not have been stolen anymore, like if there were arrests made in relation to the case (which there were). So maybe he was walking up already thinking that it was a completely erroneous stop, but I thought it strange that he just walked away.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
Makes sense and besides,...
….you weren’t “DWB” anyway.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 27, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I honestly cant stand
when anyone (I dont care what color you are) cries when they are “targetted.”
Its just not worth crying over, at all. I mean I get “profiled” on the regular. Where I live, ALL white people are junkies and ALL black people are dopeboys, thats basically the way cops and outsiders look at us, because its what they see when they ride through. Im not black, im not a junkie. My brother Von is black, he aint no dopeboy. But I get stopped, pulled over, yanked up, etc by the cops atleast once a week, they grab my packaga a couple times, talk to me like Im a junkie, take my information and leave me alone when they realize Im not doing anything wrong. But it dont bother me that much, not a big deal. Cops have to think a certain way, we made it that way.
This wasnt towards really anyone here, I just get sick of seeing and hearing about it, get over it. And to you; Mr. Tony Fein, next time a cop tells you to do something, do it! Dont pull the race card and defy an officer, you’re only making yourself look worse.
Scott Hines
i feel you
i live in baltimore too man and as a white guy so in a lot of places I’m at the people (mostly black) will all be like “who the F—- is this dude and what is he doing here?” and a friend of mine will have to make some joke about it like “ITS OK! He’s not the landlord, he’s good!” or something. Not a huge deal really I’m used to it but people always wonder, like, you’re not black, you’re not a cop, you’re not a junkie, why the hell are you even here? (most probably still think i’m a cop.)
in any event, i mean, sure it sounds like Fein could have handled it better, but that’s just what it SOUNDS like. We don’t know what happened. That cop could’ve been doing something wrong and decided he was just going to make something up to charge the guy with. That’s definitely not an uncommon practice if a cop is pissed off that he has nothing to arrest a guy for. A lot of em will just make stuff up and punk you with the system.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
Yea
Im with you 100%. I was just a little upset because it was a Raven making the news for the wrong thing, and I pray that he was just another victim. But Im just so happy with what Harbaughs done to the face of our organization that little things like this shouldnt happen anymore.
Scott Hines
i’ve been mistakenly pulled over three times. we sorted it out. i moved on. thats life. i just happen to drive beater cars that look a little suspect. to me, economic profiling is more of a problem than racial profiling. i drove a beat up oldsmobile to a gated beach community and got the evil eye from the security attendants coming and going. i’ve never had a car payment and the ones eyeing my beater have a $400 a month minivan payment. i win ugly every time.
if you live in a higher crime area you will be pulled over more. if your actions are out of the ordinary (never mind legal or illegal) you will be questioned. if you drive an Escalade with $1000 rims in a drug infested area you will get a second look. if your banging on a door trying to get in your house a cop might question you. if a cop asks you a question and you show attitude you will get attitude and might get a face plant. it’s not always fair but I doubt a single person is randomly targeted at the break of dawn. cops have to rely on gut instinct, neighborhood trends and current problems to get to the bottom of anything. what’s the alternative- No cops.
if you respect authority (right or wrong), dress respectable, surround yourself with good people and drive a nice car you’ll have little problem. if your me, your screwed.
economic profiling is more of a problem than racial profiling
this is probably true
but it is also true that being black has a lot to do with a lot of police activity. I’m not Al Sharpton or anything, but this stuff does go on. People have a right to have gold teeth and hoodies. It doesn’t make you a criminal.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
Unfortunately, not always true
Tony Fein was doing nothing that anyone else wasn’t doing, eating with his friends and trouble found him regardless of his behavior or economic situation. It will be dropped as a case, in my opinion, but whether you want to call it racial profiling or soften the impact by calling it economic profiling, it’s pretty much the same thing.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 26, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i think you're agreeing with me
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
You can have those things. Those things aren’t black or white.They are consistantly worn to portray the criminal element in our life consuming media. If you want to look like that, you are most likely purposefully meaning to be that character. In being that character, you have an idea that you may be perceived as such. You probably have an idea that you will be confronted for achieving that image. People have to be smart enough to realize the association with certain dress. Sure, wear what you please because it’s a free country but don’t be so premeditatedly alarmed when you get pigeon holed for being that character. It goes beyond style. Let’s see how many kids wear Vick jerseys because they like the Eagles and the green colors. If you want to be a billboard by all means go ahead but when your interview falls through or a cop questions you don’t freak out.
a very good point
i think we can put this one to rest.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
Poor guy
Stupid cops exhibiting racial profiling at its worst. Its very sad to know that the cop most likely was watching Fein the whole dinner and waiting for him to make some move.
This is almost as bad as the RB from the Texans who got a gun pulled on him by a cop when he was trying to go see his Mother-in-law before she passed away.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I remember that
think the guy was suspended and apologized. Give some guys a badge and they all want to be Chuck Norris!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 27, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
well, not to jump on him like Al Sharpton or anythign
but you could see, in his apology interview, that cop was a RACIST with all capital letters! I’m sorry, you could just see it oozing out of his eyeballs! I really try to avoid just calling people racists when I’ve never met them or anything, but that guy? DEFINITELY. Listening to the way he spoke to that texans guy was also kind of a giveaway—a very noticeable tone of superiority in his dialogue.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
i think al sharpton and jesse jackson can sometimes cheapen a case and push us backwards with regards to race relations. i think when they arrive for a case, 1/2 of america turns the other way believing it to be just another soap box for their career and a scolding of america. you cannot have understanding when people tune out because they think they are targeted. it sometimes goes beyond justice and is stretched into a black and white isssue. it goes from a traffic stop in Gary, Indiana to cops in Timonium, Md. need sensitivity training. bringing attention to a case is a service but unfairly naming all of america as an accessory to the injustice can pick at a wound that has healed over time. just sayin’.
+1
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
and he doesn't use the 1000 lightly
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
I had to read this 3 times just to make sure it was actually some seriousness coming from raven. +2
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Yeah, he kind of hasn’t been himself recently. Making salient points, hitting the reply button. What’s next?
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Possibly using paragraphs, capitalization, and punctuation when creating a fan post.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
just been rather reflective these days. i’m remodeling my house so i have become quite zen like in my thinking. nothing makes a man talk to God more than an overhead leaky copper pipe that you are trying to solder while the persistant leak continues to wash away your flux.
The Ravens should bring you in to talk to the players.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
sometimes i wonder if you speak without punctuation or capitalization just like you write. can that be heard in a vocal conversation with you?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
I speak Portugese, type English and think Kalahari bushmen. Somewhere along the way my punctuation gets lost.
fala portugues?
e verdade? eu falo portugues, pq eu morei na bahia.
voce tava brincando, neh?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
Why do I think
we seem to get away from the topic at times here on The Beatdown?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 28, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
we all have ADD
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
--George Orwell
damn that sounds like a serious outfit
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
zapatos blancos
because zapatos are masculinos and plurales.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
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