Ravens Training Camp: Sunday AM Edition
The Baltimore Ravens held their Sunday morning practice on the lower McDaniel College Bair Stadium field, due to the constant drizzle and the better field turf of the stadium. From yesterday's PM practice that I skipped, I heard that safety Dawan Landry had another interception, bringing his camp total to four picks, including three all of yesterday. He is looking lean and fast, with no effects from his season ending injury suffered last year in the Cleveland game.
However, today is all about the return of seemingly retired veteran wide receiver Derrick Mason. Mason was all smiles and hugs as he took the practice field for the first time this Training Camp after announcing yesterday afternoon that he had reconsidered his retirement and still had a lot of football left in his 35 year old body. He spoke at the podium after practice and one of the things that he said was that Jared Gaither called him and that meant the world to him when one of your offensive linemen call to say they want you back. I asked Derrick if he heard the fans calling him. He said, "Yeah, that more than anything is what I missed. They come out every Sunday, come out here to Westminster, bring the kids, I don't know how they do it. It's hot! That applause coming down the walkway, it felt good, really good. I was looking for a marching band, though."
Head Coach John Harbaugh has designated today as "Plus-30 Day," which means any player over the age of 30 has the option of skipping practice to keep them fresh, of which all the guys who were eligible took the opportunity to rest.
The overcast, drizzle didn't stop the team from having the hardest hitting in camp so far, in my opinion. In one-on-one blocking drills, DE/LB Prescott Burgess just absolutely flattened rookie TE Davon Drew, who was trying to block him. Drew was put flat on his back and appeared to hurt his ankle in the process. The coaches put both back on the line for a second time, with the exact same result as Burgess bowled him over again. TE Edgar Jones blocked well, knocking down rushing LB Tavares Gooden. Ray Rice held his own against a couple of rushers.
I notice that WR Mark Clayton is getting his hamstring worked on and Harbaugh confirmed after practice that he had a twinge in it, although it did not prevent him from finishing practice.
In 11-on-11 drills, Burgess again made an impact with perhaps the hardest hit in camp so far this year, slamming TE Edgar Jones to the ground after Jones caught a swing pass and tried to elude another defender by spinning around him just as Burgess smacked him to the ground with a resounding thud that brought cheers from the fans as well as the other defensive players.
The defense seemed to have their way today with the offense, as evidenced by nice tackles after short completions by both CB Frank Walker on WR Justin Harper and safety Haruki Nakamura on FB Jason Cook.
The field goal kickers took over for a few minutes, with Steven Hauschka hitting consecutive attempts from 32, 41, 45 and 51 yards. Graham Gano also was on target from 32, 41 and 45 yards, but missed his first attempt at 51 yards, and then came back to nail his second shot at it. Still, the kicking competition to replace the legendary Matt Stover is way too close to call and will more than likely go down to the final pre season game.
In Red Zone drills from the five yard line, Troy Smith's pass to Justin Harper was bobbled which allowed CB Lardarius Webb to grab his first pick as a Raven in the end zone and race out. Flacco hit Derrick Mason with a TD pass from the five yard line on a crossing pattern and then rolled out but threw an interception to Nakamura who leaped to snag it in the end zone before falling to the ground.
LeRon McClain was seen limping down the field favoring his right leg but later was fully involved in drills without any noticeable effects. Flacco put a nice touch on the ball down the sideline over a leaping defender softly into the arms of Demetrius Williams. K.J. Gerard got his first career interception and almost didn't know what to do with the ball, but then raced down the sidelines to the end zone.
Rookie RT Michael Oher was "called" for a false start by the referees on site, prompting Terrell Suggs, standing on the sidelines, to call him out, yelling, "we see you, rook!"
Derrick Mason made a nice sliding catch of a Flacco 16 yard pass for a first down on what was a third and ten.
Terrell Suggs and Haruki Nakamura playfully pushing each other between plays, then Suggs respectfully "bows" to Haruki, apparently to acknowledge his Japanese heritage.
See my FanPost for a short interview with LB Jameel McClain, who is vying with fellow second year LB Tavares Gooden, to replace the departed Bart Scott and line up next ot Ray Lewis at one of the two inside LB slots.
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Great news and photos again!
Best detailed blog on Ravens Training camp. Your really earning that pay check Bruce!
Ravens...who else?
by The Instigator on Aug 2, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
Pass it on if you can.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 2, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait and See on Landry
I agree he looks impressive in coverage but he’s the strong safety and a lot of his game is flying into the box and sticking his nose into contact. I’m waiting to see that first hit in the preseason before I jump to any conclusions on him. After all, a lot of the lingering effects of these devastating injuries is mental, let’s hope he trusts his neck enough to get back to his old smash-mouth safety playing ways.
by bmf12116 on Aug 2, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He said when I interviewed him he was completely fine
and after the first hit in live action this weekend, he felt great!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 2, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raven's Cheated In AFC Championship game by #18 LJ
Thanks again Bruce. Landry is the real deal. He’s 100%+.
Now, upon 100th review…The Ravens were screwed in the AFC Championship game. Having just watched the Pitt. love fest on NFL Network I can safey conclude that we were conspired against. The #18 Line Judge made some very interesting ball placements. With about 3 minutes left in the half and the Ravens at 3rd and 1on the Pitt 35, Mcgahee fights forward and appears to come within an inch of the first down marker- if not making it. The #18 judge hurries in and places the ball back about 2+ feet from where McGahee progressed. The judge was agressive and adament with his spot. It was now 4th and a yard… Again ?
On fourth down, Flacco called a time out, spoke to harbaugh and then lined up for an obvious sneak. The QB sneak (which would have been a better idea if it were inches) came up just short but, again, the #18 line judge raced in and put the ball back a crazy 1.5 feet or more. It was like those 2 plays gained nothing though McGahee and Flacco moved forward a good amount each time. This started with 3rd and 1 mind you. It was robbery. each time on slow motion you can see them edge the line. Also, you can see exactly how horrible the spots were. Not one, but two in a crucial series.
The most concerning thing was that Harbaugh did not challenge either spot. If McGahee’s spot was correct, Flacco’s sneak is good. Derrick Mason could be heard yelling about the bad spot on Flacco and Harbaugh could be heard saying to him, “I know, I know.” But, there was no challenge. What?
The 2 lessons here is that we will continue to have to fight the refs when we play the NFL favored Steelers and that Harbaugh better improve with his red flags. He cost us by not reviewing Mason’s obvious TD in Pitt. that would have really changed the game. He then missed a number of spots throughout the year. If we win the second game against Pitt. last year, our confidence and NFL’s love affair with the Steelers would have been different. We might have gotten some calls in the rubber match. Too bad Nakamura’s hit on Ben’s back didn’t knock him out of the game. That would have evened the ref biases.
If this sounds like complaining, it is. I can’t wait to rip the hearts out of those lucky, referee baiting jackasses and shove the Lombardy up the NFL’s ass again.
by raven on Aug 2, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I always thought this
In the second of the 3 games where we played Pitt at home, Holmes got that very controversial TD to win the game. Of course there was not enough evidence to overturn it, but the league made sure it was overturned.
Had it been the other way around and Mark Clayton making the exact same catch with the no TD call, it would have stayed just because it is Baltimore. And every Steeler fan knows this.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Aug 2, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
correction- these plays took place just before the end of the 1st quarter and it was the big series before pitt. took over and scored on Ben’s lucky toss and receiver zig zag to the end zone.
by raven on Aug 2, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let it go guys....
….let it go.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 3, 2009 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually find it fairly interesting to hear that these complaints still have merit after a good bit of time has passed and some serious research has been conducted. True, we discussed this just after the fact, but it was still a fairly emotional time.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Aug 3, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flacco
Question for those who have been to Westminster. I just read a Mike Preston article slamming Flacco already, i don’t always believe what i read from this dude. I was up in Westminster early in the week (we live in Myrtle Beach) but had to leave to early. What are your opinions on Joe, I am hoping Preston is just being Preston…
by Ngata 92 on Aug 2, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you talking about the July 28th article? If you are (also, keep in mind, I DIDN’T make it to Westminster this week so I’m not sure if I’m athorized to answer this), then I can say just about everything the guy said was true. It makes me think of the interception to Polamalu in the AFC Championship game that nailed the Ravens’ coffin. Flacco has to step up and make BIG plays in “tight windows.” It’s the truth. The team in 2008 was merely flawless. The defense was 2nd, special teams made big plays, and the running game controlled the clock for most of the games. For me, the article didn’t slam Flacco, but basically elaborated on the fact that there is MUCH room for improvement.
by bigmac1124 on Aug 2, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the INT’s came at terrible times for Flacco. a few were game breakers for sure. but, he had to navigate the 2 best teams in the NFL (Titans and Steelers) 5 times this year. he squeeked out 1 win but almost played a huge roll in winning all 5. it was that close. he got tremendous experience from last year after running that gauntlet. there is no doubt that he is the right man for the job. preston makes a living off being the instigator so I take him with a grain of salt. i will not speak poorly about preston because he was one of the few reporters who didn’t hang on Billicks every word and was an early whistle blower to Brian’s BS.
by raven on Aug 2, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with your view on MP. It’s tough not being at camp and being able to know first hand whats going on. SI had an article that had Flacco looking in command and very positive (what I wanted to hear). Preston’s article was comparing Joe to Boller (not what i want to hear). I am 8 hours South of Baltimore and appreciate the updates from visitors to camp (cant always count on Preston or that Twitter BS for news.
by Ngata 92 on Aug 2, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HEY RAVEN
He’s not me…
makes a living off being the instigator so I take him…[/quote]He taking my job aye?
Ravens...who else?
by The Instigator on Aug 2, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no one could take your job. bruce will forever have his fan club president. lol.
forgot to mention the fantom running into the kicker call against the Ravens just before half time. that was unreal. outside of being a homer, that game was totally officiated for the Pitt. crowd. god we’re going to kill them this year. i just hoep we realize rice and Mclane are on the field too and stop pounding Mcgahee. rice burned the steelers for 20 yards on a screen and didn’t touch the ball again until the second half where he was the outlet on 2 and 25 after flax got hammered by troy on a qb bootleg (yuck).
by raven on Aug 2, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
huge difference between boller and flax. boller was a bundle of miswired energy and fumbled many snaps. he always looked like each game was his first. players see that and lose confidence. everyone was calling for smith and fans bronx cheered boller when he got hurt and left the game. that will not happen with flax. he stays within himself. the game will slow down faster for flax more than it ever would have for boller. boller was just too high strung to be a leader at the time. i think boller will be a good qb one day. i think he will be better at 30 and beyond than at any other time.
i feel for boller in that he was over coached for so long and the deep ball (his best ball) was taken from him as he didn’t have any real threats. having said all this crap, i think boller would have had similar games against the titans and steelers last year. he too came up just short in the big ones.
by raven on Aug 2, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You hit the nail on the head with the over coached statement
If you remember the game when Boller was hurt a few years back I think in Cincy, Boller was being yelled at on the sideline that game and before to stay in the pocket. Billick wouldn’t let him get outside and scramble. If you would watch the play he was injured on he started to go to the outside and then pulled back and then started again. Right at that point he was hit and that was when his leg got torn to shreds.
My respect for him was he finished that game and it wasn’t until after that game they found out how bad he was injured. So you can never say he wasn’t tough. We had no offensive line with him as soon as the ball touched his hands 95% of the time the person directly in front of him was from the other team and the plays we had took way too long to develope. Really hurt when you hit a WR in the number and they drop it 50% of the time. (think we know which WR that was hint he left for another team in purple)
Flacco has a few things in his favor, but big ones that will allow him to develope to the best he can be is the coaching that is now here and a line that can do more than run block.
asmodeus1971
by asmodeus on Aug 2, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch Boller this season
He’s in St. Louis and you just know that Marc Bulger will get himself hurt and then Boller will step up and take them to the NFC West title and win the SB over the Ravens. Then we Baltimore fans will all go jump off the nearest cliff, led by Billick and Matt Cavanaugh!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Aug 3, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly I think
I think if Boller wasn’t injured last year we would have been singing his praise. I honestly think in the short and long run what happened is best for the team, but I think Boller would have had his best season last year.
Boller has an incredible arm that sadly because of Billick/Cavanaugh play calling, lack of protection or a deep threat never got used. Sorry I remember him throwing 50 yard passes in practices from his knees; pure arm strength.
Flacco and him are comparable on that front but I think Boller has taken too much of a beating here on the field, in local media, and by the fans in this area. Flacco is at an advantage on every front at this time in his career compared to Boller. He has better coaching, better play calling, a better pass protecting line, 2 pass catching TE, one great and a few ready to make a mark WRs and with the three headed monster backfield.
If all of these think existed on the Ravens for Boller I do think he would have been a star. Instead it was pass now and then run, run, run, go back for a pass 5 plays later and get sacked, 10 more run plays and then be asked to hit someone down the field in traffic. Kind of hard to do when you aren’t throwing to get any kind of consistancy, and when you hit Travis Taylor with the perfect pass in the number, the ball bounces off his number, his hands , his hand and then fall to the ground. How often did that happen? Seems like it happen multiple times a week back in the day… lol
asmodeus1971
by asmodeus on Aug 3, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
That he would have been better in Cam’s sytem versus that crap that Billick and Cavanaugh used to run, but Boller is way too erratic, and not accurate enough to ever be a star, let alone above average starter in the NFL, IMO.
by DT711 on Aug 3, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you need to go back and watch some tapes
Boller had a high percentage of his passes hit his target right on or close to the numbers and they dropped the ball. It wasn’t just Taylor either, I can remember in one game he hit Heap three times once in the endzone and Heap only caught one and the refs tried to take that one away from them.
The big problem was he didn’t pass enough, hard to be accurate when don’t throw a pass over 5 yards long in 10 minutes of game play and you only attempted 4 passes in that time and then they ask you to throw a 40 yarder in double coverage with no protection.
As far as Dilfer all he had to do was hand the ball of 30+ times a game not throw and INTs and not fumble; our rushing, special teams and D did everything else…
asmodeus1971
by asmodeus on Aug 3, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree to Disagree
And I have watched plenty of Boller FYI. Every single snap, many more then once.
If all of these think existed on the Ravens for Boller I do think he would have been a star.
I’ll stick by it… Boller would have never been and will never be a star in the NFL. He does not have the poise.
by DT711 on Aug 3, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is my opinion of course and you are entitled to yours.
by DT711 on Aug 3, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+++11111 for both of you.
dilfer still said it best when he basically told billick to shove the play book and let guys react and simplify it (maybe dilfer lost his playbook on purpose). dilfer pleading for freedom and simplicity was the turning point in our SB season and the reason dilfer wasn’t wanted back. how dare he uncomplicate billicks robotic, predictable and everything has to be just perfect to work plays. it was always the players fault not the fact that boller had to watch receivers make 5 cuts for a 10 yard pass while waiting for 3 different blocking schemes to develope.
by raven on Aug 3, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AND boller was drafted even with a poor college passing %. billick loved big armed qbs. he’d get them and then torchure them by never letting them throw the ball.
by raven on Aug 5, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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