WR Derrick Mason Retires
Wow, what do we do now?
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Never posted on here before, but this is my first mainly because I am kind of lost. Absolute shock and devastating blow to the team. Now the talks of signing a veteran wide receiver are becoming quite intriguing and have made their way back to the forefront of my thoughts for this team….
by bigmac1124 on Jul 13, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looking for a veteran free agent at this point is touh. Isn’t former Indianapolis Colt Marvin Harrison looking a lot better right about now?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jul 13, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted over at BTSC
Thinking i now have visions of Harrison or Toomer in Purple and Black….
Any chance at all that you guys make a blockbuster trade for Marshall or Boldin? Using next years 1st round pick?
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Steeler_ on Jul 13, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so
Not on Harrison or Toomer, Mason is better then both those guys right now. Marshall and Boldin would have been nice if we werent so scared of “character” wa wa wa, cry me a river (Not you steeler). Dont do anything in the draft, barely antthing in FA and AHHHH, so frustrating.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 13, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t mind if Ozzie shopped around next year’s 32nd pick in the draft.
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by Ampallang on Jul 13, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just beat me to it!
I just heard on the news that he says “all good things must come to an end.” However, something tells me that Ozzie would have preferred he’d have decided BEFORE the draft, not two weeks before Training Camp! At the same time, it would be fair to believe he just decided and the effect that his buddy Steve McNair’s death had on him might have been part of the decision-making process.
Looking at McNair’s now-fatherless four boys, perhaps Derrick decided he wanted to spend more time with his family, although I’m not too sure what his family is composed of (wife, kids?).
Either way, while I’ll miss his production and will not soon forget his gutty performance playing virtually one-handed against the Cowboys last season, I will koin a legion of both Ravens and Titans fans to wish him the best of luck.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jul 13, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First thing that came to my mind
Was everything that happened with Steve McNair. I think it hit him so hard that he just wanted to be with his kids and wife. He was a warrior, but this just screws up a lot of things right now. I’ll discuss it later, gotta vent.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 13, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is the link to the list of Free Agent WR's still unsigned.
Not much to choose from. Who do you like? Justin McCarins looks to be the bet of the rest to me. Check it out:
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jul 13, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here is the link.
Click here.
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by Bruce Raffel on Jul 13, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopes that’s a joke.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 13, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't sugarcoat this one
Mason retiring is an absolutely smothering blow.
Derrick probably would’ve declined substantially in 2010, but we’re now left with one of the worst WR corps in the league should Ozzie not bring in a legitimate threat.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
by Baltimo on Jul 13, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It could be temprary.....
This is from ESPN’s Mike Hill on Twitter…. "derrick mason to retire after 12 seasons…jst texted me & told me his wife wants him 2 give it two weeks but for now..he’s retired @espnews"
by RightOffRussell on Jul 13, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He still had surgery and probably will be on the decline
A move needs to be made.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
by Baltimo on Jul 13, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...thats insane
Never saw that coming. I would not be surprised if he came back though. Any time I hear a “maybe” I will come back, I feel like its inevitable that they do.
What is the deal with Harrison anyway? Is he really that old that no one will even look at him anymore?
by Johnny_S on Jul 13, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this is great news
“In my career, I have been able to do everything but win a Super Bowl. " Mason stated.
Mason was entering the final year of his contract and was scheduled to make $3 million. He had been trying to get a long-term deal from the team during the offseason, but a deal never materialized.
I guess he figured that sticking around wasn’t gonna get him a Lombardi, so screw it.
Wrap it up!
To his credit, I wouldn’t be taunting you guys right now if I didn’t think he was a good player. He appeared competent to me, when not injured.
I wonder which decrepit wide-out the ravens will have to settle for now? Man what a time to lose a key receiver like that. I thought you guys were gonna be alright in the department, at least for the early part of the season.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Jul 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We weren't alright even with him.
Our weakest position with him on the team, now he leaves and we are in the dumps.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 13, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what I meant to say, you guys were barely there. now not so much
who knows, maybe marvin harrison will come in a kick ass and I’ll be wrong
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Jul 13, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"...when not injured..."?????
I guess you didn’t see his gutsy performance w/ one am against the Cowboys on national TV when he even caught a TD pass, with one arm hanging by his side, after he dislocated it earlier!? Maybe not the fastest by far, or best route runner, or even best hands, but he was arguably the best possession receiver in the NFL last season. Every team knew he was Flacco’s main and even only true target, but he still got open made the key receptions and kept the drives alive.
Barely there? 11-5, two playoff wins on the road with a rookie QB and a loss in the AFC Championship Game that was only decided in the last four minutes? If that’s barely there, then I hope you think we’re “barely” there again!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jul 14, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
settle down
1 I’ll give him props for still producing while injured, but for some reason, ravens wide receivers and corners appear to get banged up more often than others. But good point, even while injured, your retired wide receiver still made plays.
2 What I was trying, and failing apparently, to say was that the ravens were not deep or particularly talented at wide-out in 2008 or early in 2009. In my opinion, you guys were gonna be decent in that area of the team as long as there were no major injuries, which isn’t likely. Now, the ravens are totally screwed. You guys are gonna have to bite some kind of bullet, either through a trade or veteran pickup.
Man I don’t blame you guys for being pissed off though. If it makes you feel any better, the Steelers starting center just broke his toe. That tempers the mood a little.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Jul 14, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He will be back though
Mason won’t.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 14, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure if we want him back to be honest
nah Hartwig’s ok, he didn’t lose the Superbowl for us. He ALMOST did, but he didn’t
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Jul 14, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you are not banking on T-Rex arms being a valid replacement for this year…
Its a toe…walk it the eff off
by Johnny_S on Jul 14, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks.
Might as well invite every free agent that is on the market right now. Or players available in trades. Koren Robinson, Justin McCareins, Ashley Lelie, Darrell Jackson, Drew Carter, and Drew Bennett. Bring them all in and see if anything sticks.
by E-ROC on Jul 13, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Baltimore will continue their trend of consistently being above .500 one year, and below .500 the next.
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by kwoog on Jul 13, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like you
Looks like you will yet again be a team that cannot win a playoff game, let alone get to one.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 13, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude the Browns fans are dicks. I read all the stuff on their board with you and some Steelers’ fans. They talk a whole lot of shit for having done nothing in a loooooong time.
by Johnny_S on Jul 13, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Steelers board is probably the most civil, and the respectful Steelers fans are treated kindly. Dawgs By Nature is a mixture of both the good and the bad, but the culture is being taken over by standup guys like Rufio and Chris. BaltimoreBeatdown is just a joke, as it’s moderator advocates trolling on a partner site.
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by kwoog on Jul 14, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guys here have been nice to me so far...
Minus the Harrison/Reed DPOY argument we had. Over there the guys just tried to tell me how shitty of a city Pittsburgh is. Then once they lost that argument all the guy could do is argue grammar.
by Johnny_S on Jul 14, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, it’s a mixture of both over there. The 7-10 guys that post 80% of the material on Dawgs by Nature would be civil to any football fan… provided you don’t produce and avalanche of “you’ll always lose b/c you’re the Browns” bs.
www.lowbrowsophisticate.com
by kwoog on Jul 14, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theres good and bad in all groups. When ever I go over to the Browns page most of them seem decent or as much as a Steeler hater can be.
by archon095 on Jul 14, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's a joke...
and you are posting on here, does that make you a joke as well?
"I wouldn't root for the Yankees for any amount of money."
-Matt Albers
by ryuu on Jul 14, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trolling isn’t a joke, and I’m not trolling.
Anyway, I just like stopping by once in a while… so that it will be all that much sweeter when this incredibly thin team falls flat on it’s face again… like it does after every year when it’s record wildly overperforms its roster talent.
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by kwoog on Jul 14, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than being...
…..well below .500 EVERY year, Brownies!
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by Bruce Raffel on Jul 14, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every year but 13 months ago.
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by kwoog on Jul 14, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once in a decade
is called an “aberration” or a freak occurrence. The rest of the time, it is called the “norm.” The Browns losing record most years is the “norm.” The Ravens are stacked on defense and will be fine enough on offense. Last year we did it w/ a ROOKIE QB. This year he has the entire off season to continue his growth. Something tells me he’ll get the ball to whatever receiver lines up outside of him.
Too bad your team has such a poor outlook that you have to try to take us down from the great season we had and expect to have in 2009 as well, regardless of Derrick Mason’s status.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jul 14, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta remember
The Browns still have Practice Squad DA. If him and Shaun Rodgers ever got it on, they would produce Jesus babies.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 14, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you'd love to be there...
…to witness the sickening event live and maybe get splashed on in the process!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jul 14, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact is that in the last 4 years, you’ve had losing seasons in half of them. The fact is that throughout those years (and the irrelevant ones from half a decade ago) your success was wholly due to a dominating defense. The fact is that defense lost it’s coordinator and starting ILB and got a year older. The fact is you’ve got a second year “game manager” QB with absolutely no weapons around him. The Ravens are a lot like the Bears, they go “all in” on defense, and when the chips fall right they have a great season. When the don’t, they’re abyssmal. In both scenarios they’re not title contenders.
The Browns were possibly the worst franchise in the NFL pre-Savage, that I can’t argue with. Phil did a complete overhaul, and there is undoubtedly tons of talent on this team that was never there in the Davis/Palmer days (Thomas, Steinbach, Quinn, Edwards, Rogers, Wright, Jackson, Cribbs).
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by kwoog on Jul 14, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those were the Billick days
This a totally different team with new faces everywhere. Billick had no positive consistency. We know what we can do and what we can’t do. I agree that our WR is not looking very good right now. But we will have a top 5 rushing attack and a top 5 defense. That will be enough to get us where we need to go.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 14, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Top 5 rushing is possible again, though without any outside weapons it will be a challenge. I admit I was shocked to see you at 4 last year.
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by kwoog on Jul 14, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So were we.
We had high hopes for Willis and most still do, but we did not expect a 6’0", 260 pound full back to be as productive as he was.
With LeRon moving back to FB, it will allow for Willis to shine and Ray Rice is considered to be one of the most hyped up players to have a breakout season this year.
I’m right there with you though that it is going to be challenging to overcome the WR things. But there is no possible way that the Front Office lets this situation play out the way it already has. We will bring someone in and HOPEFULLY that will take some pressure off of the run. Probably no though, lol.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 14, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shows how good our o-line has been
Everyone knows what’s coming but they still couldn’t stop our three headed attack last year and with an even better o-line this season, it will be more of the same.
Unfortunately it will probably be more of the same in Cleveland as well. Who’s the next coach coming there?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jul 14, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My money’s on Brian Billick. They take our washed up players; why not our washed up head coaches?
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Jul 14, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re optimistic about Mangini, who without a 6 game stink fest by Farve would have made the playoffs in two of his three years as a HC (in the Belicheat division, no less). No matter what, he and his staff is a certain upgrade over Crennel, one of the worst tacticians in league history. We’re also very excited about Rob Ryan, who promises to finally bring in an attacking style Defense.
The player acquisition only has to remain consistent, which I hope it will with Kokinis (a virtual Savage clone without the PR deficiencies). For the past 4 years we’ve been acquiring 3 to 4 average-to-above average players every year (Bentley-Edwards-Pool-Cribbs, Steinbach-Wimbley-Jackson-Vickers, Thomas-Quinn-Wright-McDonald, Rogers-whatshouldhavebeen Corey Williams). If an org does this virtually every year they will be competitive (and we think an influx of Mack-Robiskie-Massaquoi-Veikune-Barton-Coleman-Abrams will continue the trend).
This is not a rebuild. You don’t rebuild when you have Thomas, Rogers, Quinn, Edwards, Steinback, Cribbs, Jackson, Wright etc.
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by kwoog on Jul 15, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
But having to play the Steelers and Ravens twice each year, plus a relatively more healthy Bengals team makes it a tough schedule for you guys.
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by Bruce Raffel on Jul 15, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no doubt the division is brutal. I think any one of the four teams could win a different division or two in the NFL.
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by kwoog on Jul 15, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A team full of blind moneys could win in the NFC South what does that prove?
by archon095 on Jul 15, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. I don’t think a team of blind moneys (sic) could win the NFC South.
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by kwoog on Jul 16, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then I guess the Browns don’t stand a chance.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Jul 16, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The NFC South is one of the best divisions in football
as they are decent top to bottom, or at least they were before Tampa tanked.
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by Bruce Raffel on Jul 17, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mason
As a Steeler fan I’m obviously not upset with the news, especially the timing…right before camp.
But, just as with my Steelers, I try not to get too high or too low, I feel the same way about Mason’s retiring. On the surface, sure it looks good for the Steelers, but ultimately you never know.
Great organizations find a way, and I begrudingly will give the Ravens their due, especially with Ozzie. Maybe this will force the Ravens to deal for Bouldin (who btw I pray does not end up with the Ravens b/c that guy is an absolute beaset!!!). So, while Steeler fans maybe rejoicing now…if you all get Bouldin I will be really nervous.
Or maybe this will force the younger WR’s to step up sooner than expected. While this could cause some early “growing” pains, in the long run maybe it’s exactly what those guys need to take their game to the next level.
So, I understand Raven fans frustration but ultimately we don’t know what it means to their success. It might look bleak now but you never know. Did I mention how nervous I am that you all will now land Bouldin??
by SteelerMike on Jul 13, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok
What about D.J. Hackett? We should also bring in Tab Perry out of desperation. Any thoughts? D.J. is a good player. Does anyone know the deal with him? We are pretty screwed in my opinion. It’s probably too late to make a move on the “character” dudes, as they will have to learn Cam’s foreign system and carry the receiving corps. It’s a sad day. What Mason did for us last year is too much for words.
by Ravens Boner on Jul 13, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
The Ravens might get a shot to matt Jones. He is not suspended, play quite well last year for us. I know lately it is not dificult to win the “best Jaguars receiver” title, but he was clearly the best WR of the my team. He made a couple key 1st down plays all year long, oftem from 3rd and long. He might fit in Baltimore.
Just keep him away from drugs and making trouble…
Life without knowledge is death in disguise
by Zoltan from Budapest on Jul 13, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Jones
is a total piece of garbage, and Ozzie will never sign him. He’s a former 1st round pick who never performed like it (we have been through that). Harbaugh would look bad if he preached all this “he’s a Raven” stuff and brought in a criminal. It just doesn’t make sense. He played good in a couple games last year. But if we signed him, it would be like signing Antonio Bryant to a long-term contract for playing good in only 3-4 games last year. (Oops, the Bucs already did that. I wonder if it pays off).
by Ravens Boner on Jul 14, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seeing
who’s left from the free agent WRs he is an option. I’m not say he will end up in Baltimore, but he is one of the better FA WRs who are without a team right now. I totally understand the red flags onhim, he just blew his chance this year with that drug violation. We wil see.
Life without knowledge is death in disguise
by Zoltan from Budapest on Jul 14, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where to from here?
Its going to be a major task for Ozzie and the coaches to compensate for the loss now
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Steeler_ on Jul 13, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We all
thought the same thing about the O-line last year when Ogden retired. Most doubted Ozzie would sign a vet like Anderson, but he did… and the O-line turned out fine. People need to relax… have a beer, but not that cheap shit.. that means you, Malor..
by adh on Jul 13, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know
I bought three 24 ounce Keystone Ice beers at 8 pm for FIVE DOLLARS!!! They are gone now. Can’t beat that. Now its time for cheap vodka and 2 dollar Coors Light.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 13, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a ripoff!
$2 for one Coors Light? Enjoy your $12 Coors Light 6-pk!
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by Bruce Raffel on Jul 14, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a bar special at Cornerstone I think, possibly Santa Fe.
For Malor’s sake, I hope its not Bentleys.
Pretty good bar specials, better than the $4.50 bud lights i purchase in Federal Hill.
by Johnny_S on Jul 14, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cornerstone it was
Bentleys? Lol. No way.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 14, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw it
Sign Plax. Actually I wouldn’t mind seeing us sign Drew Carter. He isn’t great, but better than an average warm body.
by thedecline19 on Jul 13, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you think the Cardinals will give us Boldin for all of next years draft picks?
"I wouldn't root for the Yankees for any amount of money."
-Matt Albers
by ryuu on Jul 14, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Terrible
This sucks, I hope he changes his mind. Just finish your contract and come back and give it one more year. We need his effort and leadership for the wideouts on the team.
by davidhusker on Jul 14, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aye, Carumba!
Part of me wants to believe this is all just a negotiating ploy on Mason’s part, who knows…
But it probably is the real deal. As for the “scrapheap” that Bruce posted above, and I do not know any of these guys health status, etc. but at first glance, I say maybe give Drew Bennett and Ashley Lelie a call; Dante Hall might be intriguing. I wonder if the Ravens would be willing to roll the dice on Matt Jones and/or Koren Robinson -now would be interesting.
I have to think the Ravens have a contingency plan in place as this is no different than if Mason had blown his knee out during OTA’s…
Unless a miracle happens, we are stuck with Clayton and a maybe healthy Demetrius Williams, backed up by some combination of Marcus smith, Kelly Washington and Yamon Figurs… ugh… Maybe Marcus Smith will come out of nowhere and be the “real deal”, maybe Kelly Washington is reborn, maybe monkeys will fly out of my a$$…
by vlad755 on Jul 14, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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