Brandon Marshall?
by Mr MaLoR on Jun 15, 2009 6:14 PM EDT
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PrintDenver Broncos Pro Bowl WR, Brandon Marshall, has requested a trade after being a hold out from the team's off-season activities. Marshall's contract will be up after next season and he has already expressed disinterest in the Bronco's off-season decisions.
But has all the drama going on in Denver since Josh McDaniels took over starting to get to Marshall? I mean, would you really want Kyle Orton throwing passes to you after you had one of the best QB's in the league getting you the ball? I sure as hell wouldn't.
In my opinion, I feel that Marshall is one of the elite WR in this league. He has everything you want in a WR and is the closest mold to Randy Moss as I have seen in a while. Standing 6'4" and 230 pounds, he has the speed, size and strength to dominate most CB's in this league.
Over 3 years, Marshall has reeled in 226 passes for 2899 yards and 15 touchdowns, with nearly all of these numbers coming in the last 2 seasons. It sure seems like he can work with a "gun slinger" type QB which Cutler is/was. Marshall should have no problem catching a zinger from Joe Flacco.
So my question to you, is there a place for Marshall in the Ravens organization? In no way do I think he is a "cancer" as many have said for guys like Owens and Ochocinco. He is a winner and could really benefit coming to an atmosphere that we have here in Baltimore.
Is this trade a possibility for the Ravens?
The opinions posted here are those of the administrator of this blog and his loyal readers. They are in no way official comments from the team, and should not be misconstued as such, even though he thinks he could do just as well or even a better job!
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He might shoot a few people but hes a good football player.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jun 15, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions
If you've ever seen Marshall
he’s built more like TO, pretty ripped and solid, but still faster to outrun many DB’s, and can go up and grab the jump bal as well. Moss is fast and can jump, but nowhere as physical as Marshall.
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 16, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
ALthough i doubt it would happen
I wouldnt look forward to facing him if were to be on the Ravens. Im high as a kite about Marshall, he is tank
Doubt Denver is gonna trade him though, itll put even more FAIL tags on McDaniels coaching tenure
Bleeding Black and Gold since 1989 baby, Blitzburgh is back, time for a repeat!
I guess the next question is...
…what would it take? A current player at this point of the year? What round draft pick?
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 16, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
We could trade Troy Smith. He could start for the Broncos at wide receiver or quarterback, maybe both at the same time.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Hmm
On the one hand he is a stud 25 y/o WR, a true #1. On the flip side, he is immature, has been in some trouble, and is not meshing well with new management in Denver.
I can see Oz swooping in with something like a #2 and #5(or player) and grabbing Marshall under the radar. It would be a classic Oz move; right player, right price.
all that doesn't matter...
Denver hit about as much of a jackpot as they could have for Cutler (as dumb as it was to lose him in the first place). They are going to expect at least a first-round pick, and probably a player and a late-round pick for Marshall. Ozzie’s philosophy seems to be pretty much that you never, ever, trade a first-rounder. I agree with that philosophy.
If Denver will take a 2nd rounder and a 5th, like DT711 said, then I could see Oz doing it. But you have to think there will be enough demand for Marshall that Denver will land a first-rounder from some team somewhere.
…Oakland anybody???
Oh, by the way....
PROMOTED!!!!
Interesting topic to debate now that the news is on the table.
However, I am still waiing to post aditional interviews from last week’s OTA’s, but will wait until a slower news time, later this week.
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The rumors are starting. The following quote is from the Baltimore Sun.
It has been rumored that the Ravens are interested in trading for disgruntled Denver Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall.
Without citing a source, Pro Football Talk reported that "rumors are flying in some circles that Marshall could land in Baltimore."
ProFootballTalk.com is the site that first reported the rumors.
PFT
is know for pumping out the worst rumors just to increase their traffic. They started rumors last week Laron Landry wanted to be traded and nothing could have been further than the truth. Not saying he’s wrong, just saying I trust him as much as I do OJ Simpson.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 16, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
word is bond...
PFT is like a high school girl running up to you and saying “Hey! Hey! Hey! Guess What! Guess What! Guess what only I know! Do you want me to tell you a secret??? Huh? Do you?”
No. No, Mike Florio, we are not interested in your false rumours that you reported based on a single unnamed source. Not interested at all.
James Walker at espn.com says he has heard literally zero regarding Baltimore and Brandon. They’re well into their offseason training process and unless they got a home-run deal for Brandon, they would probably not want to shake up the roster for a guy new to the system.
PFT also reported
that it was a near certainty that Ray Lewis would never resign with Baltimore. Florio practically guaranteed it. And I knew it was B***S*** all along, so you can miss me with that Florio crap. Dude is a fraud.
He tried to argue that Ray Lewis is more comfortable as a 43 MLB, rather than a 34 MLB. Does this guy even watch football?
Yep
And NBC partners with PFT…baffling.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 16, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hope we are not just getting excited AGAIN
Oz should pull the trigger and get him in here. With clayton being a free agent next year and no idea about whats going on with mason’s contract, we could really use someone like him.
if Oz didn't do it for Boldin...
…then you should probably relax your expectations for Marshall.
But don’t worry about it. Ozzie’s secret plan is smarter than anything you or I would think of. We’ll be fine.
Given what the Cowboys gave up for Roy Williams,
Denver might ask for the moon, though Marshall’s off-the-field issues could bring the price back down to earth. You have to give up something to get something. Might as well go all in and acquire him.
couldn't disagree more...
…Going all-in, as you say, will mean giving Denver one of two things: either a first-rounder or a player and a second rounder. Ozzie will do neither. Denver won’t lower their price because some other dumb team will take the bait.
Ozzie is smart to let this one pass by. If they’ll give us Brandon for a second and a fifth, I say go for it, but anything else is asinine. You never, ever, ever trade first-rounders, because you have no idea what type of superstar you may be unknowingly trading away, and a second-rounder plus a player would probably mean they want a damn good player. And we like our damn good players too much to trade them.
Based on what people are saying about Smith and Williams, its worth it to hang on to them this year while hoping Mason can still take the load. We have the talent to win, and we’ll find out what kind of progress we get from our WRs with a second-year flacco.
I would do a 2nd and 3rd/4th.
For a talent like Marshall, I think he is worth a good bit. Now, there is no way that any other team was going to get Roy Williams because he is somewhat unproven. Jerry Jones just can’t resist a guy who loves the Cowboys and is from Texas. More about the publicity then football in that town.
I think this trade makes sense. Mason is not going to be a Raven next year. I just dont see it with the injury and his contract up. I mean, is our future really Clayton and a bunch of mid/late round draft picks? Is that really the way to advance Joe’s ability? Marshall revamps this offense.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
if you're right...
…and the deal can be had with only second rounders or lower, then I’m all for it. But frankly, Ozzie is probably so confident in his own drafting abilities that even a 2nd and a 4th would be too high for him. I can guarantee you that a 2nd and a 3rd is DEFINITELY too high. That’s leaving yourself only one first-day draft pick.
One thing though
I praise Ozzie everyday for his drafting techniques. The man does not miss on his picks. But I was thinking about this last night.
How come we miss on drafting these WR who blossom into studs from the later rounds. How come we missed on Colston, Marshall, Boldin, Ochocinco, guys like that. I mean Colston is what gets me. The man went to the 7th round. How could Ozzie not see something like that in him.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
well there's a lot of variables...
…first of all, some stuff you just can’t tell. Travis Taylor looked like a stud. Marques Colston didn’t, but then he got drafted by a Drew Brees team.
Sooner or later Ozzie will get it right with WRs, just like he did with our QB. Sometimes players succeed or fail based on variables that you could not have known nor controlled.
That’s very true… The only real receiver that we’ve drafted since Flacco has been Marcus Smith.
Flacco will help turn our “busted” receivers into good receivers. Clayton looked much better in Flacco’s first season.
Yes but....
Marshall is a proven Stud at WR and is only 25. If you look at it that we could draft two WR’s in the second and fourth rounds next year, and one pans out to be as good as Marshall and the other a total bust, I’d be ecstatic with that.
I’d even do it for a 2 and 3, just because we are going to get some nice compensatory picks next year.
fair enough that you think we should do it...
…I’m just pretty sure we WONT do it. Not for a 2nd and a 3rd, I promise you that, and probably not for a 2nd and a 4th either. Maybe for a 2nd and a 5th—that was what he was willing to give for Boldin.
plus,
we’re still in negotiations w/suggs. taking on marshall’s contract could be an impossibility given what else Ozzie is working on.
Marshall's contract wouldn't be a problem at all..
he is still playing on his rookie contract, so he is pretty underpaid. Top tier recievers usually demand a 1st and a 3rd in a trade and I wouldn’t expect the broncos to settle for anything less. Especially since brandon has NO leverage what so ever. If he doesn’t play, he doesn’t get paid.
if you asked Ozzie for a first and a third...
…in exchange for Jesus Christ Jr. he would still probably hang up the phone.
Going all-in doesn't mean you have to give the other team what they are asking,
which might be a first round pick and some other round pick. The price tag isn’t as expensive as it appears because of his off the field issues. A second round pick and 4th or fifth pick seems reasonable, and that’s where I would start.
i'd do that in a heartbeat...
…but the Broncos wouldn’t. Some team out there, like Oakland, will give the Broncos the first-rounder that they want. if I were them, I wouldn’t take anything less than a first-rounder for him, since somewhere out there a team exists that will make that deal. But Ozzie isn’t the guy who will.
frankly, its just unbelievable to me...
…that Denver could have possibly ended a season at 8-8 with Jay Cutler throwing to Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal, and they may just manage to downgrade that to Kyle Boller throwing to just Eddie Royal. It’s amazing to me. I’m so happy Ozzie Newsome is our GM.
I mean, who are these people? What is wrong with them? Pat Bowlen seems to have committed franchise suicide here.
excuse me, i confused Kyle Boller with Kyle Orton...
…I guess I get my sub-par QBs named Kyle mixed up, sorry guys!
by jackmca on Jun 16, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
umm............. Try a 31st ranked Defense........................
by Calibroncoboy on Jun 16, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i wasn't making a point about their season...
…I was making a point about how they seem to be mindlessly vacating all of their skill positions.
Not many teams who trade away their #1s at QB and WR improve the following season.
I agree with the randy moss comparisons… he has that long, lanky yet muscular build not to mention his already proven ball skills and route running … pull the trigger on this Ozzie, throw a first and third at the broncos and force them to deal before they have a chance to think twice about letting go a talented receiver just entering his prime…THE GUY HAD 104 CATCHES IN 15 GAMES!!.. and don’t forget the guy crapped on Joey Porter pretty good in a post-game which makes him OK in my book
please pass what you're smoking...
…a first and a third? forget for a moment that Ozzie would never do that, because we all know he wouldn’t. But let’s assume he WOULD. You would be willing to give up two of your three day-one draft picks for a guy who is going to get suspended, has a track record of getting arrested, and just asked his team for a trade? Are you serious?
And I haven’t even mentioned yet the potential backlash of what happens if one of those draft picks turns into a superstar. Do you know how many of our starters, on both sides of the ball, came between the first and third rounds of the draft? I can’t number them off-hand, but I think it goes without saying that day-one draft picks are what teams are built on.
Who do you think Ozzie Newsome is? Jerry Jones? No first round picks should ever be traded under any circumstances whatsoever. Not for Adrian Peterson, not for Randy Moss, nobody. Never trade 1st rounders.
Agree w/ jackmca on this one, MaLoR
NFW Ozzie trades a first AND third for him. Perhaps a 2nd and fourth, and even a player that is currently a reserve of ours. But two high picks? Sorry, but we don’t need him that bad, as Ozzie finds gold in those picks.
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 16, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure he finds gold with those pick
But our WR since 1996 have been aluminum.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
3rd round draft picks are on day 2
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jun 16, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
starting this year for the first time.
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 17, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
you can't handle what I'm smoking..
Ok, so you wouldn’t trade a first round pick for a WR with 200+ recs in the past two seasons averaging over 1,200 yds in each of those seasons, but I bet you were in the crowd that was hoping we drafted a WR with the first pick this year and was baffled when Ozzie didn’t. And then again maybe you weren’t in that crowd, but you undoubtedly have to agree that since we have our O-line and QB situation in place, the next piece is a weapon for a young Flacco. This points us to the draft, where unless we pull off a miracle trade saving our first rounder, snag a one in a million training camp casualty from another team, or a diamond in the rough WR proves himself then we are going to have to address the WR position in either the first or second round next year. Meaning, we’re going to have to use one of our high picks anyway for an unproven kid that may not get more than 20 recs until 2013. We are a team sucessfully rebuilding an offense while maintaining a championship caliber veteran laden defense. Let’s not beat around the bush, we have an ever-closing defensive window and adding a pre-packaged, ready-made down field threat with tremendous YAC and incomparable on-field intangibles could be the missing piece to our young howlitzer armed QB.
And don’t forget that we’re preseason favorites to receive a third and a fourth round compensatory pick by the departure of Brown and Scott.
Paragraphs are your friend; don’t be afraid to hit Enter.
Otherwise, these are some good points. Spending a first round draft pick on a receiver seems like more of a gamble, unless you consider the possibility that Marshall could pull an Adam Jones.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
I hate it when people say that “we have an ever-closing defensive window.” That is simply not true. People have been say that since 2000, and Ozzie keeps drafting defensive studs like Reed, Suggs, Landry and Ngata. Defense is a tradition and mindset in Baltimore that will outlast any players currently on the roster. As I have already stated, I think Marshall is worth a first round pick, and I agree with you logic about that.
However, we cannot start the win-now philosophy. Ozzie’s steady, right-player-right-price philosophy has kept the Ravens competative every year, and now the Ravens have a franchise quarterback and are bonafide contenders. Now more than ever, the Ravens need to maintain their cool. It’s like Harbaugh said…
We try to make every position as strong as we possibly can. We’re open to any player at any position, anywhere that can make our team better. So, are we looking to upgrade our receiver position? The same as we are every other position. And if we can get a player in here that can make us better, sure, but if we can make the players we’ve got better, healthier, more productive, that’s what we’re going to do. We’re trying to put together as strong a football team as we possibly can, and it’s really not any more complicated than that. So, you have an interest in the receiver position, so do we. Just like every other position.
But the "Ray Lewis" window IS closing
and while we have great defensive players other than Ray, we will still cross our fingers that his loss doesn’t make us less of a defensive force. Evn though Flacco is young, this may be his best chance at a Super Bowl ring. So make it happen by getting Marshall and then have faith in Ozzie that he can still be the “Wizard” even w/o a first pick next year!
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 17, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I just hope we can hang onto Ngata because after he outplays the $100 million man in Washington this year him and his agent are going to demand a history making contract in a couple years. Ed Reed is talking about quitting football to go play baseball because of the nerve impingement in his neck. Ray Lewis is ageless except for the fact that he’s not ageless and getting older and father time will one day catch up to him. I’m confident we will get a deal done with Suggs who is clearly a current and future cornerstone, but seriously what is going on with these negotiations?
Listen, I’m not a hater. Defense has been the mentality in Baltimore for a decade and I don’t see why that will ever change but I don’t wanna be shocked if one year a team like Tampa comes in and throws $120 Million at Ngata, Ray and Pryce retire and Reed fails a physical. So why not act now, pull out all the punches and make a run at the Lombardi THIS year.
Might not agree w/ a majority of that, but...
….the last sentence should be our “mantra” for the year!
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 17, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Ed Reed is talking about quitting football to go play baseball because of the nerve impingement in his neck.
What? I don’t think he was really serious about that.
That is an old rumor
I would not pay any credence to it.
Also, he is too old to pick up pro baseball now. 5 to 8 years ago, he could have been a nice CF prospect.
Brandon Marshall has become a ridiculous WR and is just starting to hit his prime. Hes developed into a polished, talented WR to compliment his natural athleticism over the past 3 years. The only obstacle in his way is his immaturity with how he handles himself off the field. Would he be a locker room problem… can’t be certain. I would lean towards him being more of a problem. The way he carries himself with the media sets off a red flags. If he can in fact mature into a professional, his potential is limitless.
His presence and talent would undoubtedly improve the Ravens offense, but at what price. Baltimoreravens.com says it may take a first and third round draft pick to acquire him… thats too much. Those are extremely valuable picks and Im not sure the Ravens can justify throwing them away on a chance Brandon Marshall will be worth the value and clean up his off the field antics.
He is an unbelievable talent, dont get me wrong. My problem wih the trade is that he may not be worth what it will take to get him in a Ravens uniform.
Welcome to the Beatdown, Chris!
Feel free to chime in on any topic you see. However, as you can see in an earlier response to someone’s comment, I totaly agree he is not worth the 1st and 3rd rounder. On the other hand, I’m not too concerned about his off the field issues, as Ray and company will take care of that. Perhaps Derrick Mason will take him under his wing and show him how to be a true professional. Winning cures a lot of problems, so he might end up a model citizen here.
However, a 2nd and 4th at the most.Thanks again for the visit! Guys, welcome Chris to the Beatdown, as this is his first comments posted!
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 16, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes you just have to give up a little more to get something special.
The thing I am confused about here is that for a good bit of time, most of us here were happy giving up our first and third for Boldin. So why not Marshall?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
You guys are all answering different questions.
What Marshall is actually worth: Marshall and Boldin are roughly equivalent statistically, with Boldin having the advantage of more seasons. Cards rumored to be asking 1 and a 3 for Boldin, plus this is what Roy Williams went for, so this is my answer.
What Denver will ask for: They asked for the moon for Jay Cutler…and Chicago gave it to them. Denver idiotically wasted one of their 1st round 2010 picks on a 2nd round 2009 pick. They probably want more 1st round picks to spend on 2nd round players. McDaniels seems pretty clueless so far IMHO.
What will Oz do?: If he decides Marshall’s character issues are not a showstopper (I see this being a BIG if), and the rumors of a 1 + Todd Heap offered for Boldin are to be believed, I see no reason he wouldn’t offer the same here.
Wow, if Denver stocks up on 1st round picks
Then imagine how much in signing bonuses they’ll have to put out. McDaniels is digging himself into a huge hole in Denver.
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 16, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe that is why he is trading them for 2nd round picks.
by Voodoo Child on Jun 16, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
ahhh, what the heck. lets get marshall while ray and reed are still playing. kind of a going away present for ray.
Before your time
The Orioles traded all three of those guys who went on to win Cy Young Awards, World Series Titles and All Star Game appearances for a guy (Glenn Davis) who got hurt and never did squat for the O’s.
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 17, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Marshall= Superbowl
Marshall, Clayton, Mason, Rice, McLain, Willis, Heap, Flacco+ Ravens Defense= SUPERBOWL.. we have to and should do it..
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-marshall0616,0,870414.story
If you have a few minutes, peruse his legal history. He comes off as being very shady, and his ex-girlfriend, Rasheedah Watley, sounds like a crazy bitch. I was about to jump onto the trade-all-draft-picks-for-Marshall bandwagon, but I’m definitely not sure anymore. He doesn’t sound like the kind of guy Harbaugh would be excited to have to coach.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Yea
He just sounds like the kind of guy that needs Ray Lewis to guide him in the right direction.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I’m not entirely sure Ray Ray has the power to “fix” Marshall. Maybe if Ray had a cattle prod, though.
On a related note, Coach Harbaugh had this to say when asked about Marshall:
“Their background matters,” Harbaugh said. “We want to bring guys in here that are what we consider Ravens. So, any player that we bring in here, we’ve got to be convinced that he’s a man of integrity, a high-character guy, and that our players can respect him in the locker room. That’s going to be true whether it’s in a draft or free agency or any guys we choose to re-sign. We look at that real hard because we think those are the type of people that you win with, and we’re never going to compromise on that.”
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-ravens616,0,2680146.story
There’s no compromise in Harbaugh’s domain. It will definitely be interesting to see how this plays out.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Yea, I read that.
Not sure what kind of message he is trying to get across with that statement. He could be saying that Marshall is not a Raven or it could mean something else.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I completely agree. I don’t think Marshall would even want to be “fixed”. Ray is a good leader, but i dunno about all this
Winning makes everyone a happy camper!
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 17, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Everybody Keeps Saying That
But I give you exhibit A: Michael Irvin.
Guy won multiple rings and he still got into trouble…
What kind of name is Rasheedah?
Wasn’t that the name of kip’s internet girlfriend? Oh no, that was Laqwanda.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Another criminal athlete?
Sounds like a Raven to me. Haha
I’d be scared if you got him, but I doubt he goes for much less than a 1 and a 3.
Name me the other criminal athletes the Ravens have had?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
The biggest crime
is that Cleveland is masquerading as a Pro Football team!
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 17, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha.
Seriously though, Brady Quinn will rid the record books of multiple QB records. When he is done, there will be one record, “The Best” – Brady Quinn.
by John Stephens on Jun 17, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, very funny!
Seriously though? Are YOU serious?
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 17, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
One time...
I was sitting behind this guy at a Maryland Terps basketball game. All these kids were pointing at him, taking pictures, and waving. I look at him and he is a pretty thick guy. Finally I get a glance at him, low and behold, Brady “The God” Quinn was sitting behind me the entire first half.
So I tap him on the shoulder and ask him if I can take a pic of him. He obliges and after I finish I say “I’m going to send this to my cousin, he will never believe I’m sitting behind the worst QB in the league.” He had no rebuttal. And yes I realize I’m an asshole.
by John Stephens on Jun 17, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
If you truly said that...
count me as impressed and a fans of yours!
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 17, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You
At a terps game? Any other Maryland loving you have?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I graduated from the University of Maryland.
And I just got accepted to Grad school there!
I’m a Caps and Wizards fan too. I guess that’s sorta Maryland.
by John Stephens on Jun 17, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I Feel Old
Y’all are just graduating???
I will not tell you what year I graduated from Roch. Inst. of Tech., but it rhymes with “schminety-foo”…
I am doing the grad school thing and will be walking, at Homewood, next May.
Yes, I am Terps football/basketball fan, but a Blue Jays lacrosse fan.
Holy Cow!
Another RIT Tiger-! I knew there was something about you from your sig. I did not want to put “RIT” because very few folks south of the Mason-Dixon line know what RIT stands for: I get Rhode Island institute of technology, Rensselaer, etc. all the time.
I was there when they installed the Tiger statue right outside what was then Building 1 -the administration building. I realize the campus has changed greatly since I was there so those buildings are probably gone/changed/housing different things. We used to take pictures of us “Riding the Tiger” -kind of a joke in that for all the money we were spending, this is what we got….
My girlfriend and I were one of the first, very late at night and very drunk coming back from Nick Tahou’s, to “christen” the statue…
My wife (now) actually does a pretty good job of imitating Tahou’s sauce and my kids love garbage plates.
I definitely miss the garbage plates; the school, not so much.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
What Major
is your degree in? Printing? Engineering? Art? Photog? CS? Hotelly (what my wife got)? Medical Illustration? (had to add that one since it is one of the more unusual degrees offered)
Nuclear Medicine. They killed the program a year or two after I graduated. I worked at Strong Memorial for a year before getting sick of the snow and moving back to VA.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
It feels good to bring up college and not have half the people here start whining about the Terps. The Tigers would kick Terp ass on ice, anyways.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Jealousy
…is such an ugly trait.
Who needs division 1-A football and basketball when you can have (Div III when I was there) hockey?
I think they moved up to Division II just after I left.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
Hey
I played Club hockey in college! We had to actually pay for our own ice time, etc.!!!
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 22, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahahaha...
Geez…
"Mouth of Ghosts."
by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 17, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
in the words of Scouts Inc's Bill Williamson:
“Now we know Marshall wants out. But we also now Denver wants to keep him. The Broncos have all the leverage here, don’t expect Marshall to get his wish.”
The broncos would be idiots to trade this guy.
wait a minute...
…maybe they are idiots. They just fired Mike Shannahan and traded Jay Cutler didn’t they? They couldn’t be stupid enough to top that by trading away their best WR too…
Why not?
They’re certainly not going anywhere in terms of playoffs, so why not trade him and get the growing draft picks that your re-building franchise is heading towards.
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 17, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
I don’t actually seeing them trading Marshall unless they want a full-on uprising by Bronco fans… I sure as hell am rooting for it though
Fans don't care
There is medicinal marijuana in Denver, so they are all cool about things.
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by Bruce Raffel on Jun 17, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Some thoughts...
Marshall recently had hip surgery and doesn’t want anything to do with the Broncos’ medical staff. This is understandable because team doctors won’t necessarily be looking out for the player as much as the team, but it also means that the Broncos likely have nary an idea how his rehab is going (he moved it. to Florida instead of Dove Valley). So, the surgery may not have gone as well as hoped (hip injuries, I hear, are tough on wide receivers) and he doesn’t want the team to know about it.
You have to keep this injury in mind because he may still fail his physical and throw a trade out the window.
Secondly, the main issue we (Broncos fans) seem to see with this whole affair is that Marshall wants to get paid. He has earned a raise, but with his possible suspension and questionable health, a long-term guaranteed money-based contract isn’t very wise on management’s part.
People seem to want him more than Boldin because of the money Boldin wants, but I can tell you, if Marshall ends up here, first thing he’s going to do is demand a contract befitting a #1 WR. If you’re not willing to pay Boldin, are you willing to pay Marshall?
"Mouth of Ghosts."
by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 17, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
Oh, and I forgot to add.
Always nice to have your favourite team get ripped a new one by non-fans. ;-)
"Mouth of Ghosts."
by Tempestuous Binary on Jun 17, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
id move to denver..that place is cool. where else can you go for a walk in the foothills and get your head ripped off by a pissed off mountain lion. they gots some serious “no rangers are coming for you” terraine out there. we should take a ravens trip out. i’d be first to sign up and first to pin a lamb chop on MaLor when site seeing the rockies.
aahhhh screw Marshall. we talked ourselves out of it again. i think we ended up pissing on bolden too afte 10 posts. we are just not meant to have a receiver. poor mason must feel like “what the hell man, am i invisible”.
To Tick Steeler Fans Off Alone it Would be Worth it
No matter what it would take, and we all know Ozzie wouldn’t give away the farm, but you know that if the Ravens somehow, through some miracle, acquired Boldin or Marshall, everybody in P-town would be taking gas…
That is is the one piece we are missing, we know it, they know it. Just imagine imagine the boards/post if we did get one of them.
Obviously playing what-if, but what-if Flacco had a stud or another veteran WR to help bail him out last year? Maybe he does not throw as many picks against Pittsburgh; maybe instead of losing by five we win by two. Maybe the AFC championship is played in Baltimore instead of Pittsburgh, we squeak by them and then roll over Arizona in the SB. I know, I know, “what-if’s” and pigs flying…
it would put the screws on the pitt front office if we got marshall. their dbs are average and troy barely holds them together. i don’t think they could cover mason/marshall.
The real question is
can we get him the ball enough to both make the opponenets fail and keep him happy. Remember, part of the reason he wants out is his thought that new QB Kyle Orton won’t be getting him the ball like Cutler did.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jun 19, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting Theory
Pittsburgh CB’s are an average bunch. If our young OL can give Flacco just enough protection time, can our average (at best) core of receivers exploit Pittsburgh’s average CB’s? Kind of like which one fails/breaks first…
They only looked good
because of their pass rush. My theory always has been that CB’s are only as good as the pass rush in front of them. Give any NFL QB time and he’ll find the open receiver.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Jun 19, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
not with our current bunch. their sleestac (sp?) beat our sleestack. as proven. marshall could get out of the cave before they grab him.
Yeah, but...
Hope springs eternal with each new training camp. I, admittedly a homer, think we improved more than they did this off-season. We may have lost Bart, but our defense improved in so many other areas that overall the net effect, I believe, will be an even better defense than last year.
Our special teams have improved mostly in the return area; admittedly the kicking game could experience a few hiccups.
Our OL has definitely improved, even with the departure of Browne. I truly think we “added” more than Pittsburgh did. Of course, the proof will be in the pudding, errr, on the filed…
they are thinking about the issue
Michel Irving got away with it be cause of the former commissioner did not do shit ok
the broncos are rebuilding there team and is Kyle Orton is just like the same Like boller they are both real bad and i would trade for picks for him my issue with the ravens
wont trade there picks to help better there team and they could win from a 12-4 to maybe 14-2 and get a bye and get a ring. and they saw what this team can do now and the treath of haing a high rushing ability and need to make some throws to be better
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