Cutler Deal Affects Every Team

by Rexx on Apr 3, 2009 9:22 AM EDT Comment 16 comments

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The trade that sends Denver Broncos QB Jay Cutler and their 2009 fifth round draft pick to the Chicago Bears for QB Kyle Orton, two first round picks (2009, 2010) and this year's third round pick will resonate throughout the league and may greatly affect the NFL Draft later this month.

Even with Orton on the team, the Broncos should still be in the market for a QB and might very well use one of their two first round picks or even both to trade up to grab either Georgia's Matthew Stafford or USC's Mark Sanchez, whose stock has risen considerably since USC's Pro Day earlier this week. The combination of what happens will have a huge domino effect on the entire draft which will surely affect every other team.

While the Baltimore Ravens, picking at the 26th slot in the first round, have no interest in a QB, the ripples felt from Denver grabbing one could change everyone else's draft board, which could absolutely affect the Ravens when they make their pick. However, the good thing is that the Bears were thought to be targeting a top notch wide receiver with their first pick and now without one, there may be one more options by the time the Ravens are on the board. Many mock drafts had Chicago taking either Florida's Percy Harvin or Maryland's Darius Heyward-Bey, but now without a first round pick, both may drop further into the first or perhaps even the early second round.This could end up boding well for Baltimore, who is also thought to be looking at one of the top six wideouts on the board, although both Texas Tech's Michael Crabtree and Missouri's Jeremy Maclin will more than likely be gone by the time the Ravens pick. That does, however, leave the possibility of one or more of Harvin, Heyward-Bey, UNC's Hakeem Nicks, or Rutgers' Kenny Britt still being available deep into the first or perhaps even the second round How far these guys drop will also change where and when the second tier group of wide receivers go in the draft, such as Ohio State's Brian Robiskie.

What are your thoughts on the effect that Denver having Chicago's first round pick and its effect on the other teams, notably the Ravens?

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Bronco's got a lot back for Cutler

But unless they develop a franchise QB with one of the picks, it wasn’t worth it. We in Baltimore know how tough it is to get a franchise QB, and say what you want about Cutler, but he is a franchise caliber QB, in a league starved for them. Hopefully for them, Sanchez (My guess) or Stafford will try to be that for them, but if not, they’re back where they were 3 years ago, trying to fill Elway’s shoes. They had Plummer, Griese and others and no one really stuck until Jay. And no, Orton is not the answer for them. It will take 2-3 years to see who really got the better of this deal.

Bottom line, this is good for the Ravens, as it takes a young, talented QB out of our conference and gives them a huge hole at QB.

I might set up a poll as I’m curious to see if Raven’s fans would hypothetically consider trading Joe if we were in a similar situation, and what it would take to make them interested. For me, It would take just about two full drafts from a team, at a minimum, Two 1’s, 2’s, and 3’s, and that would be just to get me to listen. Since that is an absurd amount of picks, I probably would not trade Joe, since Matt Millen is no longer in the league, and I’m not sure if any other GM is stupid enough to throwaway that many picks. Thoughts?

by DT711 on Apr 3, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ditka did...

…for Ricky Williams.

Also, Dallas traded Herschel Walker to the Vikes for something like a full load of draft picks.

Rexx

by Rexx on Apr 3, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea

How’d that work out for them?

by DT711 on Apr 3, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but

the Cowboys got the draft picks and the Vikes got Walker, right?

Rexx

by Rexx on Apr 3, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

dumb move by denver…it will take them 4 years to be competitive again..who cares how cutler acts off the field..as long as its legal..what counts is between the lines and he was good. i think management ego is more to blame than jays attitude..the Bears just got 50% better over night…this will haunt denver.

by raven on Apr 3, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And Bears save $

by not having to pay those ridiculous signing bonuses to first round guys who’ve never played a down in the NFL. Even if they re-negotiate Cutler and pay hinma ton, it’s financially worth it for a team starving for a franchise QB for years. If they had Cutler back in 2005 Super Bowl against the Colts, perhaps a much different game.

Denver got worse, much worse, on the field, while the Bears greatly improved. Watch Matt forte get a whole lot better with a passing threat now on that team!

Rexx

by Rexx on Apr 3, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Denver won't draft a top QB

McDaniels is from the school that says take a lower draft pick and develop them. Orton will be a stopgap (and not a bad one in his system) until McDaniels grooms his guy. With Denver not needing WR’s that helps us. He may even trade back on one of those picks to rebuild on defense.

by Monkey C on Apr 3, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

agreed

McDaniels will try to final a low round QB to makeover in the mold of Brady, such as Cassel. Who was Sanchez’ backup at USC?

Rexx

by Rexx on Apr 3, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Carson Palmers 3rd cousin

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Apr 3, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The move most likely means

That Maclin, Harvin, or DHB will not be in Chicago next season. Pairing any 1 of those guys with Hester and Davis could have been scary. Chicago was definitely one of the front runners for a WR and now it may just up our chances of getting the next guy up on our list.

I agree though, giving up your next two 1st round picks and also a 3rd round pick is kind of crazy. But, they did get a a pro bowl guy who loves the Bears.

He fits the Bear mold.

And raven, I agree that he does look like the cop from dumb and dumber who drank the urine. Tic Tac Sir???

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Apr 3, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs