Ravens GM Newsome Shines on Draft's 2nd Day
While most of us are studying and reviewing on what the Baltimore Ravens will be doing with the 26th pick of the first round of the NFL Draft starting on Saturday, April 25, 2009, Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome has probably already moved on to April 26th.
That's when the final four rounds take place, and although they don't get anywhere near the fanfare from the press or the casual fans, we all know of Newsome's success at finding those future Pro Bowlers in rounds four through seven - and beyond. Let's take a look at some of the second day draft picks of the Ravens throughout the years, and you will see how the "Wizard of Oz' earned his reputation as a master of finding the diamonds-in-the-rough in the latter stages of the NFL Draft.
NOTE: The Ravens have also had a few undrafted free agent signings rise to stardom, such as RB Priest Holmes (1997) and LB Bart Scott (2002). They also have a couple of other current roster players who were undrafted, and while the jury is still out on whether or not they will become future stars, they are LB Jameel McClain and WR Ernie Wheelwright (2008).
7th Round: Surprisingly, for all the great players he's found, the only one worth mentioning is current Practice Squad member, WR Justin Harper, selected in 2008.
6th Round: One of Ozzie's two best rounds for finding great players. Safety Haruki Nakamura (2008), LB Prescott Burgess (2007), Punter Sam Koch and DB Derrick Martin (2006), QB Derek Anderson (2005), RB Chester Taylor (2002), LB Adalius Thomas (2000).
5th Round: Three current Ravens stand out from Newsome's recent drafts. QB Troy Smith (2007), Safety Dawan Landry and TE Quinn Sypniewski (2006).
4th Round: This is where the Wizard really shines best. The list of those 4th rounders alone could be the basis for the nucleus of a very good team by themselves. OT David Hale and WR Marcus Smith (2008), LB Antwan Barnes and RB Le'Ron McClain (2007) Note: McClain was actually a 4th round Compensatory Pick! WR Demetrius Williams (2006), Center Jason Brown (2005), LB Jarret Johnson (2003), FB Ovie Mughelli and Punter Dave Zastudil (2002), LB Edgerton Hartwell (2001), WR Brandon Stokley and OG Edwin Mulitalo (1999).
While most of the future stars will probably come from the first day of the draft, these guys certainly are major contributors to the Ravens success over the years. For some reason, we Ravens fans know and have confidence that Ozzie will find the next great unknown future star soemwhere in the last four rounds of the Draft later this month.
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Off Topic, but I don't want to start a fanpost for what I expect to be a easy consensus
I’m picking for the Ravens in our community mock draft at Stampede Blue.
The USC LBs
Hakeem Nicks (sorry Rexx)
and Vontae Davis are all gone.
DHB is the pick right?
and in case the Falcons or Dolphins grab him who would you want?
Sean Smith would have been my pick above, but with Foxworth signed and Rolle back I backed off on that. Harvin or Britt?
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 11, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Could happen,
I dont think Clay Matthews will be a first round pick, but a very good 2nd round pick. I would love for the Ravens to get Matthews in the 2nd round. Ozzie Newsome played with his father on the Browns.
DHB could be gone too man. I think if all those guys you said above are gone, DHB is gone, Pettigrew is gone, we trade down and get more picks. Ozzie Newsome and Eric DeCosta both said there are 5-7 players that they are targeting and think they can grab at 26. If none of them are there, we most likely trade out of the pick and get 2 more picks in the draft, since we only have 6.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Apr 11, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Petigrew is still there too
so DHB, Petigrew, and I need a 3rd since Petigrew to ATL and DHB to MIA is plausible. I can’t trade, so Harvin? Britt? Smith? I think I remember you guys not liking Laurinatis. Barwin? Brace?
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 11, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laurinatis is a bad choice
At least in the first round. Does not fit the Raven mold that either of the USC guys do, especially Maualuga. That man is a monster and would fit perfectly in our system. No Harvin. He is not the WR we are looking for. Britt is not first round worthy. And niether is sean smith.
As much as people say this is a deep draft for the first day, the Ravens really will have just as good of options in beginning of the 2nd round as they would the bottom of the first. If Ozzie’s 5-7 targeted players are gone at 26, we make a trade.
The only other position that I look at for 26 is Defensive End. In my opinion, that is our 2nd weakest position depth wise. We needs someone to take over for Trevor Pryce and do not have another guy to line up on the other side of him when we run 4-3.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Apr 11, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally I'm really sold on Smith as a Man CB in the late first.
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 11, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless someone wants to sell me on Alphonso over Sean my board would be
DHB
Petrigrew
Sean Smith
with 2 picks to go before I’m up.
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 11, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Kenny Britt
I think he will be better pick than DHB.
And I dont know why many people think Petigrew is a possibility… We have 2 last year starting TE of teams that loose in conference games (Eagles and Ravens) and also a great blocking TE back in Q Syp…
Some people is confused. TE is not a WR!!! You cant say a TE is good or not because of his receiving stats. You need to see the system that the team played that year. And Heap was always blocking. If you see the stats, he only drop like 4 or 5 pases, a low number for TE because they always receive in the middle of the field.
Also I dont know why people continue talking about CBs. I know that CB was a need at the start of the offseason, but now we have a really good CBs,. And like King says in SI.com, this draft is really bad in CB, thats why team (like the ravens) sign FA cornerbacks and didnt wait until the draft. Because they dont trust in this year CB class…
So I think our 1 pick will be the best WR (Britt, Nicks, maybe Robiskie) or a really good DE (maybe T Jackson, or M Johnson),
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by JORGE NITALES on Apr 11, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Pettigrew is the BPA
We will take him, end of story. L.J has a one year deal and Heap might be gone after this year as well. That would set Pettigrew up to be a starter for the following 8-10 years.
Oz will not take Robiskie in the 1st round. That would be a major reach and Oz never reaches.
by DT711 on Apr 12, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You dont understand BPA concept
The list or grades that ozzy and all ravens scouts make of players is not general, is in relation of uor team, our players,our oponents, etc etc etc…
For example, if you see the list of Mel Kiper or any expert,maybe Matt Staford is number 3 or 5.. But Im sure that in Ozzy list he is like the 30 best player available…
Is not that we draft for need, but we draft for our team, so you have to consider the team and all context to determine if a player is or not the BPA…
For the ravens, Im sure WRs DEs, CB, RTs are the ones that are in the top of the list.
And know LJ Smith has 1 year deal, but I dont know why you say Heap is no going to continue.. He has played more than 14 games in 6 of 8 years, so injuries are not a problem… I m absolutely sure we are NOT going to draft Pettigrew.
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by JORGE NITALES on Apr 13, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better understand our salary cap, Jorge
Heap makes too much money if he’s going to not be a MAJOR factor in the offense. Unless he makes a big improvement this season, I expect him to be either traded or released. Whether they re-sign him at that point is another topic, but no way he stays for $6 million/year with that production.
Rexx
by Rexx on Apr 13, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Darius Butler
Even though we signed Rolle back, we could still go with Butler or Daivs.
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by Benji5203 on Apr 11, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vontae is gone
and I think the best CB left for a man team is Sean Smith. If someone wants to sell me on Butler or Alphonso as a better fit then I could change the 3 spot.
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 11, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Many Nfl scouts said that Butler may be the best “pure CB in the draft”. They say he has the best ball skills in the draft and is an exceptional athlete. Also, i’ve read that many scouts believed he had the best pro day of any DB in this years draft. If he’s there at 26, baltimore may take him.
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by Benji5203 on Apr 11, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of those CB's are worthy of #26
We won’t take one of those guys unless we trade down. We might consider Davis if he slips.
by DT711 on Apr 12, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyson Jackson and Darius Butler are also options.
by BAL_Hawk on Apr 11, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson's off too
I guess I should have made a fanpost for this. 18 comments unrelated to the story’s topic.
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 11, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would take Pettigrew
if he is still there and DHB is gone. I’m not sold on Britt and Harvin, while a game breaker, is not the type of guy we need. In a mock draft, there are no trades, but Ozzie might consider trading down in real life. However, if Pettigrew is still there, we take him, as he is the BEST tight end in the draft and will be a force for us right off the bat.
MaLoR, like it or not, all three USC LB’s will be gone before we pick at 26 and if not, we grab whichever one is still there. NFW any of them are on the board when we pick in round two.
If Pettigrew and DHB are gone, then I’d say Alphonso Smith, although at that point it may be hard to skip over Harvin. I read that Harvin was banned from any high school athletic events after being suspended twice, once for unsportsmanlike conduct and the other for making contact w/ a referee. Are we sure we want him?
Rexx
by Rexx on Apr 11, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pro Football Weekly just had a story about the character concerns on some of the top prospects
Harvin has the guy that worried the execs they talked to the most.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2009/wwhi040909.htm
Coachability, a posse of hangers-on, his lack of respect for authority and drug usage made Harvin a unanimous selection to become a repeated problem in the pros.
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 11, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, maybe I just have not seen enough on Clay Matthews.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Apr 11, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta grab Pettigrew if he's there
and believe me, Ozzie will as he is by far the best TE in the draft and a complete player that will open up passing lanes as well as running ones for years to come, long after Heap is done. It’s a no-brainer and if you choose to pass him by, then fine. Just remember, Ozzie wouldn’t.
Rexx
by Rexx on Apr 11, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm confused now
DHB vs Pettigrew, who ya got?
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 11, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoever Oz has higher on his board
They have seen Flacco throw to DHB and unfortunately we have not, so it’s hard for me to make this call.
I am a UMD grad and since I am biased toward the Terps and I still can’t decide, I might have to go with Pettigrew. I just feel like he is a better value and has less bust potential.
by DT711 on Apr 12, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
DHB is a good receiver, but definitely not the best of his group. Pettigrew is,..by far, and we could always use a total package TE, remembering as good as Heap is, he is an often injured veteran.
Rexx
by Rexx on Apr 12, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats not true
Look at the Heap stats… He maybe is often in Injury list in fridays, but he almost always plays…
Many people dont remember he played all 16 games last season, and in all his career he has only 2 years with big injuries (more than 2 games out)..
And I think, like some expert say, that take a TE in 1st round is always a mistake… Look how many good TEs came from later rounds, even as Undrafted free agents
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by JORGE NITALES on Apr 13, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but...
Heap did NOTHING last year, other than that one great catch against the Titans in the AFC semi-final playoff game. That’s not enough to impress me,….or Ozzie.
Rexx
by Rexx on Apr 13, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DHB
Its obvious, DHB will be higher on Ozzy list, because he is a great prospect and also WE NEED HIM…
All people that think than need, and all our team context (oponents in division, caracter we like in a player, how that position is covered in the roster) is not important to determine who is OUR BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE (not like the generallists of the experts), makes me laugh
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by JORGE NITALES on Apr 13, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad you think its funny
Since you have the inside source, please tell Ozzie I said hey next time you see him.
by DT711 on Apr 13, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had trouble reading this
“All people that think than need”??
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Apr 13, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me, too. I actually thought I was reading one of your posts until I saw “THE MEXICAN RAVEN” at the bottom.
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by Ampallang on Apr 13, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha freaking Ha
Killin me smalls
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Apr 13, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've made my pick, should go up pretty soon
I’m sure the anticipation is killing you all.
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 15, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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