What's up with Ray Lewis?
by Rexx on Mar 3, 2009 9:41 AM EST
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It's now Tuesday morning and so far, there has not been a Ray Lewis sighting on his status on returning as a Baltimore Raven, or any other team for that matter. When all the news began appearing on Friday of last week, it was first reported that Ray was upset with the Ravens apparent "low-ball" offer of $24 million with $17 guaranteed and would not be returning to the Ravens to finish out his Hall of Fame career. Then Dallas said they had no money to spend due to the need to re-sign DeMarcus Ware next year and the New York Jets went and spent a ton of money on Ray's sidekick, Bart Scott, outbidding the Ravens on a six year $48 million deal.
So where does that leave Ray? According to most, the Baltimore Ravens remain his best fit by far and seem to be the only team willing to pay him the most money. All last season, all we heard from other teams' fans was that Ray was an aging linebacker, not nearly as strong, fast or as sure a tackler as in his prime. All Ravens fans openly acknowledged that obvious fact, but still saw the best middle linebacker in the NFL play his heart out every Sunday, regardless of his age. Now it looks like the other teams feel the same way as their fans, unwilling to pay the man for his past accomplishments and seeing way too much cash going to a guy that has two or three years at most left in him and has been injured two of the three past years.
Therefore, the only team willing to pay his worth now as well as reward him for his past contrbutions are your Baltimore Ravens. Owner Steve Bisciotti said he would do what it took to return Ray to Baltimore and Ozzie has been patient with the man. Now these two guys may actually be bidding against themselves, as the Ravens might be the only team in the bidding at this level. Perhaps Ray is waiting for another team to open a spot on their roster and realize what a difference Ray can be off the field as a mentor to the younger guys on their team. However, how many teams need a leader in the locker room and what established players would be willing to step aside for a new guy, even if it's Ray?
Ray had reportedly said he would make a decision on Monday (yesterday). However, the media had it wrong on Friday, as Ray said he had never made those comments about not returning to Baltimore. Hopefully this will resolve itself sometime this week and the news that Ray Lewis will be finishing his career in Baltimore will be welcomed by all and allow the focus to begin on the NFL Draft next month.
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as Ray said he had never made those comments about not returning to Baltimore.
So just because Ray says he didn’t say it makes it truth? LOL My guess is that Ray indeed did say that, and now realizes the fact that no one else wants his crusty old ass, so he is trying to pull his foot out of his mouth! : )
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by Cdsumm on Mar 3, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
damn, that is mean
In this day and age of sports, with super agents and super egos, you kinda gotta close your eyes a little bit this time of the year….
I’m only 19 years old, but I’ve never had a team other than the Ravens. I’ve seen so many great players come and go. In the NFL today, you accept it as fact. Only franchise QBs seem to stay with a team their whole career.
I can’t even imagine Ray in any other uniform… now I was young when Mussina went to the Yanks, but I can totally understand how people in my parent’s generation hate his guts for that.
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by the fix is in on Mar 3, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
See, I am coming from his position to
I am only 20 and the only figure I have for Baltimore Football my whole life so far is Ray Lewis. It is like, how did you older gentleman feel when you saw Johnny Unitas in a freaking Chargers jersey?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 3, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was just wrong
and pitiful, as that was sort of different as there was no question he should have retired. Ray might do well wherever he goes, which would hurt a bit more if he was successful. At the same time, I’d hate for him to look old ad feeble with another team and system.
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 3, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My point exactly
When you have the one man who made your franchise what it is today, you do not get rid of him, period. Plus, the best MLB to ever play and still the best in the league today?!? I will lose a lot of respect for both sides of the spectrum if Ray is not in B-More next year.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 3, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Johnny U and the Ray situation
are two completely different things. Biscotti is not a lying drunk trying to sell and team to the highest bidding city. Johnny U was intentionally traded to the Chargers to kill the fan base. Johnny was forced out of Baltimore by an owner that was trying to kill football in Baltimore. Adding insult to injury, that drunk bastard took all of Johnny’s memorabilia and tried to sell them back to us for a quick buck. World of fucking difference between the two situations. Ray can come and go as he wants…Johnny was used as a pawn in a sick man’s vendetta against our city. And Johnny deserved a hell of a lot better. Hell, who wants to go on a road trip to take a shit on Irsay’s grave? I’ll drive…
"When they get drafted by the Baltimore Ravens, we expect them to play like that. Are we surprised? No."
by UMBC Oriole fan on Mar 3, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I hate to admit it, I agree with Cdsumm.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Mar 3, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The media man
They got their information from some bozo who said he knew Ray so god damn well.
So just because Ray supposedly said it, that makes it the truth to? You guys get way too caught up with what the media has to to say, but I cant blame you cause that is basically our only source. Ampalling, do you really think we are going to have a better record without Ray rather than with Ray? Cause this franchise has not YET prepared for his departure. You trust Gooden, Burgess, McClaine, or maybe a rookie to come in RIGHT NOW and anchor the middle of our defense?
Thought so
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 3, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That media source has built his career around reliability. So, if it comes down to whether I trust his word — and his desire to maintain his reputation and job — over Ray Lewis’s word, I’m going to be biased towards the media. Ray coming out and recanting like he has makes it sound just like Cdsumm put it: he’s trying to pull his foot out of his mouth. Obviously, it’s a moot point since neither of us can know for sure either way what really went down, but I just don’t have the faith in Ray Lewis right now to get his back.
As to your rant about the Ravens not being ready for Lewis to depart, where’d that come from? My comments were directed towards comments made (or not made) by Ray Lewis. At this point (meaning that Scott’s not an option anymore), I could care less whether we get him back or not. It’s all in Ozzie’s hands. And to directly address your rant, I think Ray’s due for an injury. He’s old, he’s slowing down, and he went the entirety of last season without an injury (the first season in a while that’s happened). If we throw way too much money at him to get him to sign (which I think we’ll have to do to get him back) and he goes down with an injury, then it’s that much cap space wasted that we could have used on linebackers, offensive linemen, receivers, tight ends, or whatever. So, yes, I think we’ll have a better record without Ray Lewis than with him. And yes, my argument is based purely on speculation, just as the oppossing argument is based on speculation that he has 2-3 good years left in him and is somehow immune to injury. I’m willing to agree to disagree here.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Mar 4, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t we already payed him for his “past contributions?”
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Mar 3, 2009 10:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ravens are not in this current form if not for Ray
We dont draft Ray, most likely we are sitting in a position right now where we are only trying to re-build, and not compete. We are doing both at the moment and it is not time for Ray to go. Sure, he may have said those things, but what that Steeler slub said up there is just his way of expressing his hate for Ray and the rest of our team. People at Ray’s age, one of the most insane athletes I have ever seen, can still play this game. He will continue next year to be the best MLB in the game.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 3, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Ray leaves
our entire draft board changes. The implications of his moving on is so much more than just him. It affects thecurrent roster, free agency pickups and so much more. It should not happen, at least this season. Perhaps they sign him for three years and cut him after the first or second, depending on his performance. Then if he goes elsewhere, we’re prepared and at least go t the rest of his goo dyears out of him.
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 3, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
See, we are not ready to do that.
We need to focus on a few other positions that we are very weak at. With Ray leaving, that does not just leave us with trying to figure out who will take play in his spot, but it leaves us with trying to figure out who our leader is. Will it really be the same RIGHT NOW with Suggs leading the pre-game warmups? No, RIGHT NOW is not the time to get rid of Ray.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 3, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ray fan for life but it’s obvious he’s waiting for a team to start a bidding war. some team will get involved just to up the price and screw b-more without any real interest in Ray. sure, we all want him to stay but his offer was fair. he can’t look at dan snyder crap..that guy is a terrible “Team” owner..
by raven on Mar 3, 2009 11:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i think ray is probably swimming the ocean at superman grid search speed looking for those poor lost boaters…and we sit here dogging him out. “he’ll come back..i just know he will”- from Shane (the old western) ….at our price : )
by raven on Mar 3, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's the new agent
Rays new agent got the gig by promising way more than he could deliver and blowing Rays head up to the size of a beach ball. The reports that Rays agent made exorbident financial demands of the Jets that cuased them to turn to Bart mean he was over reaching. (Obvious tampering there because they were at Barts door at 12:01). It’s a game of chicken and Ozzie is not blinking. He should tell Ray the deal is off the table @ midnight and force his hand. We are offering too much as it is.
by Monkey C on Mar 3, 2009 11:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The StarrTribune
is reporting that 6 time pro bowl center Matt Birk is likely to be heading for a visit with the Ravens today…. http://blogs.startribune.com/vikingsblog/?
Ray needs to commit or the cap space may go away for him.
by Monkey C on Mar 3, 2009 11:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
RayRay
If I am Oz, I am calling David Dunn today and letting him know that he now has a 48 hour window to sign the contract or that iteration will no longer be available. We need to move on if Ray doesn’t want to be here and frankly I am tired of the Ray show. Not the football show, the sideshow that he becomes everytime he opens his mouth to pontificate.
Ray is the best MLB I have ever seen and I go back to Willie Lanier who played before most of you were born. But unfortunately, Ray the player and Ray the person are not equivalent. He has alot of fence mending to do if he plans to come back here. If he wants to leave, that is his business, but what has gone on lately is making people here question their unremitting support of Ray the man as well as Ray the player.
by ppdoc on Mar 3, 2009 12:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
If he re-signs, all is forgiven at the press conference where a ton of love will go around. Then we move on to the rest of FA and the draft.
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 3, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
quick to jump quick to forgive..human nature
by raven on Mar 3, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ray definitely said what was reported
Then when it looked like the Ravens may be the only suitors for his services, he denied it. Not a bad decision when you can just deny, deny, deny.
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 3, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i heard he said with all the shit written on the Beatdown by Rexx he wants to play Canadian football….can we please sign Mike Pringle and Hamm already…
by raven on Mar 3, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mia Hamm ruined Garciapara’s wrist….she must travel a lot.
by raven on Mar 3, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nomar ruined his own wrist, thinking of Mia on those lonely road trips! ;)
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 4, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
business is business and ray will be gone one day so we can suffer that now or in the near future..we can’t lose sight of a 5 year or 10 year vision like most losing teams and drama queen teams do…looking long term puts you in a better frame of mind to keep 1 player/emotions out of it….its about team goals, treating people fair and keeping it all in line…a monster contract based outside the field would blur that focus..keep the Chi.
by raven on Mar 3, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wrong
Of course we are going to have to let go of Ray right now, but deep down inside, are you truly ready to see him in a different uniform. If anyone here says yes, it is time to let him go cause we are ready to move on, you are 100% wrong. There is no chance in freaking hell we make it as far as we did this year next season without Ray. NO CHANCE! Everyone, including a lot of people on our blog, are so F***ing caught up in the “Oh my god we have to get young, oh my god its a new coach, we have to get young and rebuild so we can make a run at a superbowl in 3 years.” Blah Blah Blah, NO! Right now is a time to make a run, and Ray is the glue that holds that team together. I believe that every team needs that one guy to look at for the right answers. Sure, Reed is a great player and can influence a lot of player, but not like Ray. Sure Suggs is very vocal, but not like Ray.
Yes, we have to get young and let go of Ray, but having someone like him to help out Flacco just a little more, to help out Tavares Gooden, to help out our young corners, IS A MUST! Very few team, IF ANY, have a guy like Ray who players look up to, respond to, and play their F***ing hearts out for. Stop getting lured into all the media talk, if you didnt see or hear Ray say what YOU ALL think he said, then it is not 100% true. And I highly doubt that Ray would say something about a team that is possibly going to give him the biggest contract he can. Let it go, you all let the media fill your thick skulls with bullshit.
Raven, this is not just thrown at you, sorry for it being a reply to your message, it pertains to a bunch of readers.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 3, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
******Of course we are going to have to let go of Ray, BUT right now***********
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 3, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats okay but that's not totally what I'm saying MaLoR...
I’m not the one sitting down in Florida while an agent tries to squeeze money out of our team. Everyone wants ray to stay..of course. he carried our team, to say the least, while Billick threw monkey wrenches at the O. without Ray we don’t intimidate our way throught the playoffs and win the SB. we don’t beat great teams like Tenn and Pitt without his spunk . What we are clamoring about is the fact that he wants to be paid AGAIN for years past. If he wants to go one year at a time fine. If he wants to get paid with incentives fine..Just don’t ask for 3,4,5 years at 34 in that position. Thats whats not fair.
He has slowed down. we can deny it until we’re blue in the face but he is a lot heavier and not the sideline to sideline menace like he once was. he’s a superior field leader and better than average LB at this very moment. he’s worth the contract offered and there are a lot of smart football people putting that thing together. ray alone cannot carry this team now like he once did. lastly, what hasn’t baltimore given ray…he’s worshiped here and was basically handed the keys to the team. our organizations to spend on D and willingness to sacrifice O helped rays career tremendously. he could have been the LB on a team that spent money the other way and maybe his career is 1/2 what B-more gave him. maybe he owes us MaLoR.
by raven on Mar 3, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Sorry, rough day. Didnt mean to call anyone out like that. Plus I got Wake Forest to deal with here tonight, effing wonderful….
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 3, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeeeah boiyyy. rough day? rough day? your surrounded by chicks, beer and Wii games. rough day my ass. did you have 4 whopping hours of class today.
by raven on Mar 3, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Had minor surgery on my knee along with 6 hours of class.
But I do have some sweet pain killers….
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 3, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Love them Percocets!
Here comes the buzz. Hope you can take them and still stay awake for the Terps game!
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 3, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
should have cut out the Twinkies and HoHo’s as a kid..putting all that pressure on the knee. video game/percocet generation…see you on Intervention by Fall semester..for the HoHo’s
by raven on Mar 3, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that’s the toll it takes on your body when you’ve been a world class athlete all these years. Look at me, fine for my first 45 years, then bam! ACL surgery 5 years ago, rotator cuff /labrum repairs two years ago, deviated septum last year.
Maybe I just want to feel like a pro so I have the same surgeries as they do because I certainly can’t play the game like them. Hmmm,…what should I have next? I know, maybe Tommy John surgery? Nah, how about hip replacement, I want to know “Bo!”
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 4, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Deviated Septum!
Holy shit. So does apple juice and flank steak come flying out of your nose like in that Ben Stiller movie, “The Heartbreak Kid”?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 4, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No red meat
in my diet anymore, and I don’t like apple juice. The only thing that comes flying out of my nose is….nose juice!
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 4, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another side of the story
Not to bail Ray out, but I’m trying to get inside his head and figure out what he’s thinking and feeling last Friday as FA opened.
He’s thinking, I’m Ray Lewis, I’m the best Def player in the NFL. I can get superstar $. Then he sees Hayneworth get big dollars, along with DeAngelo Hall and Bart, and thinks I’ve been better then all those guys. I should get big $ like them. Then the Ravens threw out a very fair deal above market value for an aging 33 y/o LB. Ray thinks he deserves a deal for the best player in the league. But the phone calls and visits never come. The offers don’t come. Ray has to take a long look at the situation.
I’m sure its so hard for him to accept the fact that his career is winding down. He’s been a marquee player in the league for nearly 10 years. He’s a legend, but now he need to be realistic. He has been painted into a corner, and should thank the Ravens allowing him to keep his dignity, by keeping the original offer out there. He needs to sign soon though, b/c if he holds out and continues to pout, he will be in danger of hurting his legacy.
by DT711 on Mar 3, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let the Ravens
move the guaranteed money to $20 million and the contract length to four years. Then Ray gets his way and it ends up costing the same.
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 3, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I am not sure why people think we should lower our offer to him just because we have leverage. If we do that, we might as well just let him go, b/c I think that is a relationship breaker.
by DT711 on Mar 3, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's why
You do everything you can to make your team better. If we can pay him less we can fill other areas of need. It’s an open market. If Ray had the leverage he would without a doubt use it to raise his price. What relationship? He wants the star on his helmet? Blah Blah Blah We should pay as little as we can, just as he should get as much as he can on the open market. I think we are nuts for leaving the current offer on the table for him to try and leverage against other teams. A four year deal would really hurt if he retires after 09’ and the rest of that bonus gets accellerated aginst our cap.
by Monkey C on Mar 3, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No no no
You make it four years to make the cap hit easier but never plan on paying him for all four. He and we know that but he gets his guaranteed money, doesn’t lose face and both sides get what they always wanted, w/o losing respect. that’s what I meant. Sort of like what Bart Scott got in NY. they added the sixth year to lessen the cap hit on he guaranteed money up front. Common cap strategy.
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 3, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
Hadn’t seen your comment about what Schefter said when I posted that. I was talking here about the hit we take when he retires early. Correct me if I’m wrong but if we give him 20 mil up front on a 4 year deal it lessens the first year cap number to 5 mil. I get that. If he only plays one year, the remaining 15 mil hits the cap all at once. With needing to get Suggs and Nagta done that hit would hurt us. I was seeing too much risk in that.
by Monkey C on Mar 4, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cancel any Dan Snyder contracts out immediately..they are simply stupid and no NFL team should look at them as a benchmark. The guy is whats wrong with big business and just puts financial pressure owners and fans. $10 dollar beers and parking fees for Redskins practices and no playoff appearances…
ray is just going through what all older workers do. if he wants to dog it out until retirement because he feels underpaid thats his legacy. if it’s all about football and business is separate like he loves to trumpet he should still go 100%. he should think about all the veterans who looked at his contract in HIS prime and said, “why can’t I get ray’s money.” its a cycle and typical for older players . you can’t get paid like a 26, 27 or 28 year old. just doesn’t happen at 34 in sports unless you can stand motionless in a batters box and hit the ball 450 feet and jog. not in the NFL.
by raven on Mar 3, 2009 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Haynesworth, nevertheless,...
set the bar for DeMarcus Ware, as well as Haloti Ngata a couple of years down the line. Looks like a Franchise Tag waiting to happen for Haloti.
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 3, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ray Ray
Don’t misunderstand MrMaLor – I still want Ray here, but at some point we will need to make a decision that is the best for the team which says its time for him to go.
You speak about his leadership etc and to an extent I agree, but there was a time when he had a ? hamstring injury that did or did not get operated upon and he left the team. He left BB to sink after Billick backed him up constantly and for years.
Ray has a mixed history as a leader. When things are going good, he is great. But when things start to turn, Ray has a tendency to take a hike
I was in the Army for a decade. A good leader is most important when things are turning to shit and you need someone to lead you out of the mess. With all due respect to Ray, that is not his deal.
Let me say again, Ray Lewis is the best MLB I have ever seen and may be the best defensive player I have ever seen. The only person better may have been Lawrence Taylor. Ray Lewis needs to sign his deal and retire as a Raven. But given his personality and how he has done things in the past, it would not surprise me at all to see him bag out and go elsewhere.
Keep the faith. Hopefully he regains what little sense he has and realizes that no one will give him the support that he has gotten here.
by ppdoc on Mar 3, 2009 6:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I dare you to say Ray is the best defensive player ever let alone the best MLB ever over at the Steelers site
It would be like you just murdered their parents if you said that. Haha. But I just dont see this team becoming that team to fall off the face of the map in the time that Ray has left playing. We are just too good. That is why I say right now is just not the right time for him to leave.
And again, I speak the way I do here because I have never had a TRUE football hero because of my age, 20. All I know as far as a passion for football is the last 13 years Ray and the rest of the Ravens have given me. Ray means so much to not only me, but all of Baltimore. I just would not be able to handle seeing him leave this city when we are that close to getting another ring. Ive said that if we won the superbowl last year without Ray, it just would not feel the same right now. I just can’t see my guy go.
Anyway, off to Terps vs Wake Forest! Dave Neal’s last game at home, so sad isn’t guys?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 3, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They have a decent argument
Jack Lambert was a beast in the 70’s and I loved the guy! He was undersized even back then at around 215 pounds. Missing front teeth, always snarling, just a bad ass dude. Typical old school guy ona team of great players all over both sides of the ball, but especially defense.
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 4, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
go terps
go terps!!! win the last 2 and make the dance.
by ppdoc on Mar 3, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I actually read today in the school newspaper
That he has been offered to play in Europe for the Lebanon team. Not joking either. He did get the student section going tonight, very fun game and a very fun season. We had our chances to close games, but just couldnt do it at times. Teams with guys over 6’10", like Wake Forest, have such an edge over us. Maybe there is still hope….
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 4, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Win the ACC Tourney
Not going to happen and even NIT is probably a one and done scenerio. Team just seems to play to the level of competition and the NIT always has us playing our worst.
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 4, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Suggest you watch this if you want a good laugh from the UMD Wake game last night. This was great.
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1902812
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 4, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious!
I can’t believe it didn’t make the news all over the place. What a great prank and I’m impressed the University allowed it to happen. Too bad they couldn’t have done it on live TV.
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 4, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
damn it ..i have dial up and can’t get videos…takes me an hour just to change pages on here so i’d appreciate it if we never post pictures on here..
by raven on Mar 4, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Schefter of the NFL Network says
that he Ravens and Ray should have smething done by the end of the week. However, he says the numbers floated aorund that are reportedly still on the table (3 years $24 milion) are not even close to what is being discussed and they will get something done to keep him in Baltimore.
Rexx
by Rexx on Mar 4, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
thats no fun…i wanted some infighting and name calling for at least another month…is there an actual documented quote with ray saying anything negative about coming back to B-more or going to another team or being in love with Ryan? can someone post it.
by raven on Mar 4, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Of course there isnt
Stuff like that is never said directly from the source. It is only and always passed along by 10 jerk-offs and then blown way outta proportion. I.E the Damarcus Ware quotes.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Mar 4, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thought so…LOL..but we will carry the torch.
by raven on Mar 4, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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