Free Agency Begins: Open Thread
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 8:53 AM EST
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Use this Open Thread to post your thoughts and any breaking news that you may hear and want to be the first to post on the Beatdown. So far, since the midnight deadline, it looks like former Tennessee Titans DT Albert Haynesworth won't be on the field against the Baltimore Ravens for the next four years as he is apparently signing a $100 million contract with the Washington Redskins. Also the 'skins have re-signed CB DeAngelo Hall as well. Go Dan Snyder!
As far as the Ravens free agents, no definite news so far. However, it has been reported that center Jason Brown turned down a very fair $6 million per year offer from Baltimore and has chosen St. Louis as his first official visit as a free agent. He is looking for a contract that pays him as a guard, in the $8 million per year range. Also, it appears the Ravens have offered LB Bart Scott a contract paying him $7.5 million annually that he has not accepted and has received an offer to visit the NY Jets and Rex Ryan today.
No word on the status of bringing back MLB Ray Lewis to the team as of yet. Keep in tune w/ the Beatdown for all Ravens free agent signings as well as other key news from around the NFL.
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Houshmanzedah
All the talk about us signing him seems to have died down. Think there is any chance it happens?
by Dr. Giggles on Feb 27, 2009 9:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It looks like the Bengals are trying to resign him.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Feb 27, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, well this came from Adam Schefter's blog on NFL.com
As if it weren’t bad enough to lose linebacker Bart Scott, now the Ravens are in serious jeopardy of losing free-agent linebacker Ray Lewis, too.
Sources close to Lewis were adamant Friday that one of the game’s greatest defensive players will not return to Baltimore and his career with the team is over.
For some reason, Lewis has been rubbed the wrong way in the lengthy negotiations that have occurred between he and the Ravens. Now, Lewis is determined to move on, even if there is no obvious suitor.
The Jets are expected to spend about $8 million per year on Scott, the Dallas Cowboys have insisted they will not be signing any high-profile free agents, and there are no other teams that, at the moment, jump out as potential landing spots for Lewis.
Thus, one of Lewis’ confidants was asked if it were possible that the Ravens now could change their linebacker’s mind. "Not if you knew Ray like I knew Ray," was his response. He even mentioned retirement as a possibility ahead of returning to Baltimore and insisted it was not a negotiationg ploy. "That’s Ray," the source said.
For now, Lewis plans to take a couple of days, ponder his plans and then come up with his gameplan. But his gameplan now does not include the Ravens, according to those who know him. Thus Baltimore could wind up losing Lewis to another team or retirement, Scott to the Jets, center Jason Brown to the Rams (Brown is scheduled to visit St. Louis) and cornerback Corey Ivy to the Jets.
Change came to this country in January and it looks like it’s coming to Baltimore as well.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 10:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's official: Bart Scott to the Jets
five years, $40 million deal. Ouch!
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think ray is looking to be upset..that will make his decision toleave easier…also, i think all teams know his true ability at this point and its an awakening to ray…i don’t think the big offer is out there for him like he thought…if you listen to talk shows in other states the fans are pretty cruel about rays past….it still haunts him..in baltimore that has long been laid to rest and he should stay for the simple reason of not going through that crap again…
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ray Lewis NOT returning to Ravens!
Reported by NFL Sirius Radio, Ray Lewis has rejected the Ravens 3 year $17 million offer and is pissed at negotiations have dragged on so he apparently is also moving on. I thought that once we lost Brown and certainly Bart that Ray would be brought back.
This could be a dark day in Ravens history before it is over.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 10:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fuck this shit man
How the hell do we not keep any 3 of these guys. Our front office is starting to sound like pussys. Fuck you Ray Lewis if you want to be like this, we broke our backs to make you happy in this league and you would not be the player you are if not for us. Peace the fuck out!
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed!
Can’t believe we wil lose all three. Scott, I thought but not Scott AND Ray! AND Brown. Who are we waiting for? Let’s see what our remaining LB’s can do now. Perhaps we’ll bring in Vilma and Mike Peterson, both who are solid vets and a heck of a lot cheaper than Ray or Bart. Then we should spend some cash on McFadden at CB, and perhaps TJ!?
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would take Vilma in a heart beat!
And it has been said that we have people in Atlanta right now trying to make a deal with Dominque Foxworth. They said the deal could be done by today.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vilma is a 4-3 LB and struggled mightly when he was in a 3-4. That an I think i heard the Saints resigned him
by archon095 on Feb 27, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Ray's offer was
three years $25 million w/ $17 million guaranteed. Screw him if that wasn’t enough. If he signs elsewhere, it will be obvious he didn’t want to return and the money wasn’t the issue. I still hope it gets done and then all would be forgiven. The press has been wrong before.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As stated before......
bye bye Ray!
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
by Cdsumm on Feb 27, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Taylor to the Pats
No surprise there.
JJ Arrington and Corel Buckhalter to the Broncos – Buckhalter is a surprise there. Denver’s still loading up on RB’s even w/o Shanahan there!
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 10:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Another problem that may play out today
and over the next few days and weeks is that playing w/ Ray Lewis was an attraction to pending FA’s that might have considered the Ravens but now are saying that if Ray couldn’t get re-signed, then why would they sign here?
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 10:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
hehe Ravens floundering in FA. I love it
by archon095 on Feb 27, 2009 11:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yea, and we will be laughing at you next year
When you are sitting in the same situation as us. Not only will a shit load of your guys hit the market next year, but everyone on your defense except for 2-3 guys will be over 30.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no problem…in ozzie we trust. see you mr. potato head on toothpicks and number 2 LB…we’ll recover just fine..its about the ravens…never more baby…we created ray. we will rise and create again…hahahaha. i am now more excited than ever to build a new raven team-harbaughs ravens team, flacco’s raven team…now everyone will rise up and stop waiting for ray’s lead..this could have a great affect on those who have been his shadows..sqwauk sqwauk …..the end of the Miami love festival.
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 11:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A New Era
I hear the Ravens are hot on Foxworth. I like that.
Also, what do you guys think of Channing Crowder? Possibly a cheaper replacement at MLB?
This sucks, and I’m not going to lie and say I’m happy about it, but maybe its time to throw some serious cash into our offense. If these guys roll, we have plenty of cap room to play with.
Lastly, these things change by the minute. I’m going to wait until things are finalized before I pass judgment.
I trust Ozzie above everything else.
by DT711 on Feb 27, 2009 11:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
What you think of making a run at Vilma?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crowder re-signed w/ Dolphins
earlier this week. I like Vilma and former Jag Mike Peterson. Also heard about the Ravens interest in Foxworth. Now we have serious cash to go out and get who we target, as long of course, that they want to come here.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you delete you story of Bart Back in the Picture
Seeing that makes me sick, and I think I already have the flu
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully, Ray Lewis changes his mind.
He should change his mind. Please change your mind, Ray. Comeback to Baltimore, Ray Lewis! Anyway, I thought Bart Scott was overrated to begin with along with Corey Ivy, who is easily replaceable. Losing Ray Lewis is tough. While linebackers who have moved on away from Baltimore have been successful, except Adalius Thomas, I think Ray Lewis will be much more successful given his penchant for watching film and his passion for the game.
by E-ROC on Feb 27, 2009 11:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I disagree about Corey Ivey. People have to think you’re good before you can be overrated.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Feb 27, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i say we surprise the AFC North and go full throttle for O players…we could try to outscore Pitt and their slow O. we couldn’t beat them D vs. D and if we lose Ray, and other key dudes we might think about changing it up. we could become the greatest show on synthetic grass.
Crowder is a fast LB..he’s still learning but he has a big upside..i like him..he jumped off the screen as freaky talent this past year..you notice him.
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 11:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
He resigned with Miami!
No Crowder, he is out of the picture. We need to make a run at Vilma if Ray doesnt come back. FML
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll say it
If the stories are true…
Fuck Ray. Thats some BS. We made him a fair offer, higher the anyone else will. He thinks he deserves to be paid like Haynesworth. To cut off negotiations with Baltimore is bush.
Bottom line, I loved Ray here, but hes always been about Ray, first and foremost. When things go well hes the best, but when they don’t, we see his true colors.
I expected more from him, although I probably shouldn’t have, since I’ve seen this movie before.
by DT711 on Feb 27, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope Ray signs with Detroit
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we are in the catbirds seat…ray is just getting a cold shower or reality
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 11:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
see the ball hit the ball…we just need a missile back their and wheel still have a kick ass D…players always mistake their importance on a team. their neither as big as they seem or as bad as they seem and ray has been the recipient of mega PR over the years…
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 11:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
can we get Manny Ramirez as a DB with the saved cash?
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Vikings get Rosencopter…the redskins are unreal to pay Hall that kind of money. last year really was the year for Tenn…that sucks for them that we killed their only hope for a SB for the next 10 years..lol.
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 11:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sage Rosenfels to Vikings
2 years $9 milion. BFD.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 11:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
The Ravensstill have their three best defensive players, so don’t get all weepy:
Reed
Ngata
T-Sizzle
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 11:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
we’re fine and on the right track….our Lbs got shredded by the short pass and i’m always surprised teams didn’t exploit that more…bart never stormed the fort by any means. have fun in QB-less NY.
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 11:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dan Snyder still hasn't learned his lesson.
Poor guy. I guess Jason Campbell will be knocked on his arse more frequently next season since they didn’t address the offensive line. ’Ol well.
Speaking of Redskins, how about signing the veteran Shawn Springs? He was just released by the Redskins and is still a good cover corner, if he manages to stay healthy. Good low risk high reward acquisition.
by E-ROC on Feb 27, 2009 11:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yea man, he was a pro candidate last year
Considering he only played in 3 GAMES!
No thanks
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
id snatch up Springs at a discount….i watched him in high school at sherwood in olney. local guy can still play
our LB’s are young and young and ready
Barnes-25
McClein (sp)-26
Gooden-25
Burgess-25
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Besides Gooden
These guys are not ready to become what we need them 2. Now we have to address another god damn position in the draft. FML
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Including Gooden!
Tavares didn’t play last year and just because he was a 3rd rounder frm the U, doesn’t make him ready to go. McClain is probably the most ready, but we’ll need to develop the others, perhaps get one in FA and draft one as well. Will Laurenitis still be there at 26 (the Ohio State guy, not the King from “300!”).
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was lionitis
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they played all their lives..its football..their ready…see ball hit ball..watch film..guess
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sitting here just listening to Sirius NFL Radio
and soon gonna get on the treadmill and turn on the NFL Network.
Just ddoing my job keep all of you on the Beatdown in the FA loop!
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
odd ball stat-
leonhard only had 2 less solo tackles than ray each game…
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Trade
Browns trade TE Kellen Winslow to Tampa Bay!
Fine w/ me. Wonder why?
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Browns just got worse.
Who will Quinn throw to that can catch the ball? Braylon Edwards?
by E-ROC on Feb 27, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tempted to visit browns site..must….not….go…but….cant…..stop……myself…
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You sound like homer from simpsons
He always talked like that, especially around steak
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if im homer dan snyder and vinny cerado are burns and smithers
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellenttttttttt........
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea real wierd
Trying to focus on Symbolic Logic in Philosophy, my paper on The Supreme Courts impact on Social Reform, and Free Agency is really tough right now!
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dominic Foxworth to the Ravens!!!!
4 years $28 million, $16 guaranteed!!!
Nice pickup at CB. So much for taking a corner with the 26th pick. Now what?
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 12:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That first round pick becomes very interesting.
If I had to guess, I still think they’ll go defense if Sean Smith is available over say……Darius Heyward-Bey. Now, if the Oklahoma State TE is still available, I bet they’d take him before any of the players I mentioned. Makes for good conversation.
by E-ROC on Feb 27, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With Bart Simpson now gone and Ray Charles most likely leaving
Might have to get another LB. I say we just draft the kicker from USC who did 26 reps of 225 pounds and throw him in at MLB
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rey Maualuga might be available and Brian Cushing might be available.
But the kicker is a better option because of his toughness, grit, and will to win.
by E-ROC on Feb 27, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, kickers are becoming tough guys in this league now
Jeff Reed is a great example. I would have loved to see a test at the combine to see how good the kickers do against a paper towel dispenser.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Sam Koch
and the USC kicker, along with boxer Tom Zbikowski and judo champ Haruki Nakamura make a tough group of thugs!
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When I read about his b**** fit, I could not stop laughing. Hilarious!
by E-ROC on Feb 27, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It is because he bleached his hair
And it seeped into his skull and tiny brain and caused mass confusion. He thought the towel dispenser was a Frank Walker spitting machine. Crazy guy………
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reed needs some facepalm:
……………………………………..________ And it seeped into his skull and tiny brain and caused mass confusion. He thought the towel dispenser was a Frank Walker spitting machine. Crazy guy……… You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
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And it seeped into his skull and tiny brain and caused mass confusion. He thought the towel dispenser was a Frank Walker spitting machine. Crazy guy……… You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think you will ever capitalize the last "r" in my name?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its a painful name to type caps non caps caps non caps…good god man
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to change it, jsut cant figure out how
It is the gamertag I use on Xbox Live.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
geeee, i never had “gamertag” for my Telemarks, Pong, Vic 20 and Intellevision
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you guys even have the wheel back then?
Or even fire?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
his guaranteed money is what ray wanted for 1 year..
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
When you think about it, Foxworth is like a free draft pick
He’s only 25, and at that age the four years will be his prime. Fabian, Samari, and Foxworth make a very solid cornerback group. Derrick Martin returning and Frank Walker give us some depth. One need down.
This stuff about Ray not returning to the Ravens is crazy. What the heck is he so mad about. We’ve signed him to a groundbreaking contract, want to give him a ton of money, he enters free agency and everyone wants to get Bart Scott more than Ray Lewis. I’d hate not to have Ray lead our team, but man… this is ridiculous.
At this point, just make sure to sign Jason Brown or another center and we can draft another linebacker. Rey Maualuga would look great in Purple and alongside Tavares Gooden.
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jason Brown is gone man
No way he comes back to us
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
stranger things have happened
we need another free agent out of this mess. Since the LBs, TEs and WRs aren’t really options, Center is the last place for us to really spend money.
Jason Brown, Matt Birk, Ray Lewis. Those are our targets.
Jim Kleinsasser, and maybe another cheap corner might be a value pickup.
TJ Houshmanzadeh will be overpriced and doesn’t really fit what we are looking for at the position.
Simply we can’t afford to lose Brown, Scott, Ray Lewis and Leonhard and pick up exactly one free agent with the leftovers. Although I suppose 3 freaking 3rd round comp picks might be nice.
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Settled a need on one hand, but...
…posibly opened up another need in LB, if Ray signs elsewhere. We can replace Ray or Bart, but not both w/o some ramifications.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we could get a Center in free agency, we’re almost right back where we started, with a need at LB instead of Corner.
LB is much easier to fill.
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Brown will be missed…rising star. We just got real tough in the CB/DB field…i’m happy already. keeping the game in front of you is half the battle. i would be more excited for one of our young LB’s to step up with some much needed speed. Foxworth is young and experienced…a steal talent wise
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just reported
Bart’s contract not signed and the Ravens are still reportedly trying to lure him back! From Sirius NFL Radio.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Steelers' Rashard Mendenhall on Sirius NFL Radio now
guess he wouldn’t miss Rsy Lewis leaving the division, huh?
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Im tellin ya
The Steelers are praying he leaves because of the fear they have of Ray.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Delicious learned his lesson
He won’t try to run over a better more experienced player like that again.
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, terrified of Ray.....lol.
We showed how terrified, all 3 times!!
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
by Cdsumm on Feb 27, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
writing on the wall
when we resigned Brandon McKinney and Dwan Edwards.
Our DLine right now looks like
Haloti Ngata
Trevor Pryce
Kelly Gregg
Justin Bannan
Dwan Edwards
Brandon McKinney
Lamar Divens.
And chances are one of those will be cut in training camp.
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like all of them accept Divens
Never heard of him…….gone.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, don't be so hard on Divens
He was an undrafted free agent last year that got cut by the Chargers out of training camp. We picked him right up. He’s very raw, but he’s got a ton of talent. He didn’t see the field, but he might have more raw talent than anyone except for our three starters.
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
stat- Foxworth had 11 passes defensed last year, second on team. they gave up 220 yards passing game.
the falcons interception leader had 3 foxworth had 1…..what does that make ed reed-flippin unbelievable with 9…9!!
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 1:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I love b-more and maryland players
It just seems right to have them here.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder if Lattimore will transfer if Ray leaves ..considering half his talent is being “related” to ray…lol
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean transfer?
Where is he playing? He got cut by the Cowboys
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
see…what do i know….didn’t even know he graduated….haven’t watched MD football since Randy White
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
maybe we have a chance at Bart after all
Sirius radio reporting Bart is headed back to Baltimore.
Supposedly the Jets’ offer was 5 years $40M. Our was 5 years $37.5M. Maybe Bart is taking Ozzie up on matching any contract.
by ursula on Feb 27, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
good. i guess 2.5 million difference isn’t worth uprooting the family and losing
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If we keep Bart Scott
we can call Free Agency period a limited success.
It keeps our needs down to two – WR and Center, which is in my opinion the Major Objective.
Foxworth should be fine here.
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Center can be filled from within
Chester for now at least is serviceable there.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No he's not
He’s simply not strong enough for the position. He’s fine as a guard.
Yanda might be the best Center choice from within.
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just 1 big time receiver…Art Monk/Wilbur Montgomery type.
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I want Randy Hymes back
Or maybe Micheal Jackson. Patrick Johnson? Travis Taylor? Those types?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't mean Wilbur Montgomery
He was a RB. You mean #1`7 on the Eagles, he was a 6’7" wide out, I just can’t remember his name right this second.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I now remember
you meant Harold Carmichael, right!? He was #17 and was a long 6’7" tall and always killed the Cowboys.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is ridiculous. Preston is reporting a complete bidding war between us and the Jets over Bart Scott.
God Damn It. If we were going to enter a bidding war over Scott, we should just have signed him yesterday at whatever difference there was in the contract (rumored it was less than 1 million annually in the difference.
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He also says that Bart Scott wants assurances that he’ll be playing the central defensive role that Lewis played for the last decade. If Baltimore is upping their bid, are they also resigning themselves to going on without Ray Ray?
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Feb 27, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't see one reason on God's green earth
why we would retain both Bart Scott and Ray Lewis.
We have Tavares Gooden and money does not grow on trees.
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is what it certainly seems like
If Scott comes back, no chance Ray comes back. If all this shit about Ray being mad with us, then Fuck You Ray. We bent out backs for you and I honestly feel that he would not be the player he is without being in Baltimore.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on the guy only wants 25mil a year. Yall should give it to him
by archon095 on Feb 27, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't you have something else to worry about
Like the probability of Big Ben staying healthy playing behind a pile of melted jello
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I always wondered why the refs never called holding on the Steelers O-line. It all makes sense now.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Feb 27, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Steelers O-line doesn't hold
it just sucks to much that it pulls the defensive line in.
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Holds enough to woop your sorry asses!
THRICE!
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
by Cdsumm on Feb 28, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t seem that long ago that just about everybody here besides myself and raven was shouting at the top of their lungs how absolutely indespensible Ray Lewis was to the Ravens. People turned on him even faster than I expected!
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Feb 27, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not me
I’m take him back and all will be forgotten in a second. He’s Ray, and the Fathead on my Ravens basement wall needs to be current, which is him as a Raven – forever!
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of like Brett Favre in the Green Bay jersey on the Madden ’09 cover?
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Feb 27, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Same
As mad as I am right now with Ray, if he would just stop being a Female Dog and just sign already, I will forget about everything I said. It is just insane that we lose Bart, Jason, and Ray. Does not make sense to me when we have 20 mil of cap space.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for anyone whose interested their have been talks of bringing a team back to LA and now that its confirmed they will be looking for a team to call LA home by April. 1
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ef477d&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true
by purpleonblack86 on Feb 27, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did you post that in this thread because that’d make the franchise a free agent?
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Feb 27, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow! Bidding war over Bart Scott?
Its good to know that the Ravens have their priorities straight.
by E-ROC on Feb 27, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Heard it's up to
$42 over five years now. Wow, Bart is playing us both, the Ravens and Jets.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok guys, just got a little update
The Ray Lewis stuff may not be as harsh as it sounds.
This mornings quotes of someone close to Ray saying that Ray wants no part of being back in Baltimore and will never play again in Baltimore are NOT TRUE! Rod Woodson, a very close friend of Ray’s, was told bye Ray that those comments were 100% false this morning. Ray is still very open to coming back to Baltimore.
Ray also commented to Rod Woodson that the Dallas comments were false as well. He never went up to Ware and said that he wanted to play for Dallas.
This is coming from NFL Network, which is Live all day today, and Adam Schefter. He is one of the best at getting inside sources and I trust his information. He commented that Ray is currently in Florida, with his family, relaxing and will not make any decisions until Monday.
I think everything came at us way too quickly and we just got caught up in the drama, including myself.
Lets relax B-More.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks MaLoR!
I will sleep better tonight. Now I wonder why we are going hard and strong at Bart, willling to allow him to play us and drive up the price for whomever doesn’t blink!
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I saw that.
That’s great of Rod Woodson to be looking out for Ray too.
If Ray never gave that crap about the Cowboys, and never went on about how he was mistreated by the Ravens… then there’s no reason to be mad at him at all.
I usually don’t overreact, but this time I clearly did.
It’s only because Ray Lewis is the GLOAT
by math_geek on Feb 27, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kyle Boller
Cowboys have released QB Brad Johnson and are reportedly looking at the former Raven QB Kyle Boller. According to Sirius NFL Radio, they say that’s an “upgrade” over Johnson. What a slap at Brad, a Super Bowl winning QB!
Now watch, Romo gets hurt or is benched and Kyle comes in, takes them to the Super Bowl and steals Jessica from Tony. Then Boller and TO become best friends.
Talk about the Twilight Zone!!!
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 4:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lol
Unfortaunately (for Boller) the reality could be far worse:
Romo gets hurt and Boller comes in to save their season by throwing to T.O.
Can you imagine the pouting and backstabbing that T.O. will do to our boy Kyle? I wouldn’t wish that on anybody.
by ursula on Feb 27, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didnt T.O not want to come here because of Kyle?
God, he might not play if Kyle starts. But it would be awsome to see Kyle starting for another team, gotta love the guy.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps it is also expected
that TO will not be there too much longer anyway.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dancing with the stars?
And I am not talking about the Cowboys……
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gave water, bread, and butter to Kyle and Tara once at my old restaurant
Oh yea, and Dave Zastidel
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Vrabel
traded by Pats to Chiefs for a middle-low round draft pick. Talk about “one man’s trash is another man’s treasure!”
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brian Dawkins
signs 2 year contract w/ Denver. I’m surprised to hear that Dawkins isn’t finishing his career w/ the Eagles. I guess if Ray can go, so can Brian, huh?
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Where am I goin?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Signed by Coppin State
to a three year, minimum wage KFC Front Counter position – right next to raven!
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Broncos sign Jabar Gaffney
Former Off. Coor. Josh McDaniels brought over someone he is familiar with. Denver signs Gaffney to a 4 year, 10 million dollar deal.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 5:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bart signs again.?.
ESPN radio in NYC says he’s now signed with the Jets 6years, $48M
by ursula on Feb 27, 2009 5:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yea, my brother just texted me that he heard that.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good ….waaaaayyyy to much for that meat head
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 5:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ouch!
Now that we cost the Jets way too much on Bart, let’s get Ray back in the fold and it will all be okay, and almost laughable how Bart played us, and of course played the Jets to give up more.
Ray said he’s in Florida w/ family and won’t make a decision until Monday. We can all rest well until then.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
***waiting for the meltdown****
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
by Cdsumm on Feb 28, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vilma re-signs w/ Saints
something like a five year $35 million deal w/ $17+ guaranteed.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 6:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
McFadden being courted by Lions
Talk about going for the ash. Former Steelers CB and Super Bowl ring wearer Bryant McFadden is being looked at seriously by the Detroit Lions. If he goes for the cash, he will be a rich man, but will now be able to plan his January vacations for the rest of his career. Regardless of the money, how can you go from Super Bowl Champs to worst team in the league?
Fine by me, because any free agent signing away from an AFC team, especially an AFC North one, just helps our Ravens that much more. Imagine how happy the Steelers, Browns and Bengals would be if we lose Ray? That will hurt as much as losing him will.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 6:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
McFadden will be like Dan Akroyd in Trading Places
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 6:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
is it my computer or is this site scrambling pages and entries…? My Tandy just doesn’t keep up these days.
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 6:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Same Here
For some reason only with this story, all the fan post are below the comments, and for some reason there is some crazy looking thing below one of my post that says “Reed needs a facepalm” and has all these weird symbols. If someone posts a comment, it goes below the area for you to write in. Only messing up for this story though.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crazy Idea
How bout we push for that Chip next year, and sign Ray and Brooks. Two aging legends making one last run? It would be a good story if nothing else.
*This is just an idea, I’m not saying I’d do it.
by DT711 on Feb 27, 2009 6:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey Guys
Its Mr. MaLoR, do you like my name I made just to go give the Browns some shit for banning me? I made this a while back and forgot about it. It is Jim Leonhard’s pornstar name if he ever went into the business.
by Orange Helmats on Feb 27, 2009 7:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well my account is Leon Hard
But i made the name Orange Helmets just to give the Browns shit……time to bash them for being stupid!
by Orange Helmats on Feb 27, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As a card carrying member
and employee of SB Naion, I cannot take part in this little “game” of yours,….
but….
….it’s sooo coool you should go for it! (Let us all know how it goes!)
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just click on my other name
And look at where I posted on the Browns site. And read the comments they put. It is pretty good so far.
I wonder how long it will take for me to get banned?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol..totally unethical…whats the spelling your shooting for helmets or helmats?
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I spelled it helmat on purpose
To add to he stupidity of Cleveless
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thought so…helmat like doormat of the league
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ray Lewis and Derrick Brooks as inside LB's
We’d be even better with them than if Bart re-signed! Brooks will come cheaper too. However, I’m used to only one Brooks in Baltimore!
PS- I heard he’s retiring anyway.
Rexx
by Rexx on Feb 27, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lito Sheppard traded the the Jets
For a 5th round pick and an unnamed draft pick in another year.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
im glad we lost the bidding war with bart…..stupid jets got screwed…i guess rex needed a little coaching help. brooks/ray would be interesting and the young players would learn from 2 once great Lb’s….do you think ray is sitting at home saying, “man… i guess i’m not in demand….better call b-more… and see if they will take me back.” i bet we can get him for 1/2 last weeks value now.
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We now have pop up ads..that sucks and its messing this page up!
is this a Yahoo idea?
by raven on Feb 27, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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