Bart Scott Back in The Picture
by Rexx on Feb 25, 2009 9:32 AM EST
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It's beginning to look like the Baltimore Ravens free agent LB Bart Scott may return to the team after all. It has always be assumed that the Ravens were more interested in re-signing center Jason Brown and losing Scott due to salary cap restrictions. Once DE/LB Terrell Suggs was given the Franchise Tag last week, it appeared that Scott's days wearing purple and black were over. Everyone thought the next moves were to re-sign MLB Ray Lewis to his final contract and then focus on re-signing Brown to be the fixture over the ball in front of QB Joe Flacco for the next five or six years at the least.
Now it appears the team and Brown's agent are at odds over what position his salary should be based on. The team sees him as the center he's been all of last season while his agent thinks he should be paid as a guard. The difference is reported to be huge, around $2 million per year, which over the course of a multi-year contract, is a lot of cash. I don't understand his agent's logic, other than trying to get his client the most money. He states that Brown is an offensive lineman and should be paid like one, which would get him more if he received the average of what tackles, guards and centers get paid. However, something tells me if Brown was a tackle, that philosophy wouldn't help him and the agent wouldn't want that same logic applied at that point.
Therefore, if other teams are willing to pay Brown as a guard and the Ravens are not willing to budge from the center pay scale, then I personally wouldn't want to empty the bank on him at that cost. Thus, the re-emergence of the possibility of bringing back Bart Scott. Ironically, the agent for Jason Brown is,...yes indeed, Bart Scott's agent as well. Either way, the agent gets his cut and figures to get his percentage wherever his clients sign and the more they get, the more he does, so loyalty is out of the window from the agent's perspective.
The way I'd look at it under these new circumstances, let Brown go, re-sign Bart, then focus on getting Ray back for the remainder of his illustrious career. If Jason Brown can get a huge payday as a guard elsewhere, then go for it, Jason and good luck. The Ravens can then focus on either putting backup Chris Chester into that position or spending "center-only" bucks to bring in a free agent to replace Brown.
At the same time, I'd still like to see former (?) Steeler CB Bryant McFadden here, although many of you obviously think otherwise, as noted in your comments on yesterday's post. If we could follow my directions, that would be a great off season and set us up for a nice wideout with our first pick in April's Draft. Ozzie, give me a ring, we can discuss it further!
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If Bart signs....
The writing is on the wall. Ray is gone. Can’t see Ozzie spending about a quarter of our cap (30.75 mil) on LB’s. That’s too much to invest in one position. The league is changing. You have to rush the passer and stop the pass. We need more balance and spending that money on DB’s and offensive weapons makes more sense.
Dunno about that
Bisciotti has always been pretty true to his word, except on Billick (which was fine by me). Perhaps Ray will sign for one year here and then wait until next when Dallas has more cap space!
Rexx
I also think
we can keep Bart and Ray. Not resigning Brown will free up enough to keep all three backers. I think it is a solid move. Since we can replace Brown from within, by moving Chester to center and Yanda back to guard.
Look at it as either keeping Ray, Suggs, Bart vs Ray, Suggs, and Brown. Either way we will have enough cap room to add a few guys to our positions of need, ie; WR and DB.
While I hate to lose Brown, I am glad Ozzie is staying true to his philosophy of right player, right price. As much as I like Brown, it makes no sense to pay a center guard money.
Breaking News-Shawn Rodgers wants out of Cleveland (like everyone else)
Would you let Ray and Bart walk with a chance to get Rodgers. I would and then our LB’s in the wings would get their long awaited shot.
Also, on ESPN today they broke down Ray’s year and basically said the only thing he has going for him is on field coaching ability. They showed him not getting off blocks and not being able to pursue/late to the party. It was harsh but the video didn’t lie..although they picked and chose the clips-most from Giants game.
Ngata, Gregg, Bannon, Rodgers?
No thank you. Our D-Line may be our deepest position on the team, we do not need him.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
No offense Raven
But letting Bart and Ray go for Rodgers would not be smart. Especially when we already have Ngata and Gregg coming back.
We can’t pay Ngata next year if we pay Rodgers now. That would leave way too much $ in one position. I’ll take Ngata every time.
rodgers is the pass rushing beast that we need. we need more pressure. i’d do it. Gregg is coming off injury???
snipit- Cleveland lost their last 4 games by a combined score of 103-19. I’d want out too. lol.
pass rushing beast we need?
He had 4.5 sacks last year. Also, our big guys up front mainly take up blockers and do the dirty work. Our edge guys do most of the QB chasing.
Rodgers?
Why would we want that salary-cap eating fat man? He’s older and not nearly as good as Ngata, but made the Pro Bowl on rep rather than ability. Between Gregg, Ngata, Bannan and Douglas, we have enough space in the middle of the d-line and don’t need to waste any more money there. Anthony Weaver was released to day so we can get him back if we want- and cheap.
Rexx
If Bart signs
Ray will most likly be gone and we can move on from this little game he’s playing. Ray wants to sign with Baltimore but is trying to get as much $ as he can. He is using every trick in the book because he knows that he is not the same player as he was before. I jsut hope baltimore isnt stupid enough to fall into his little game and give him some huge contract that he really doent deserve. Offer him a 3 year 18 million doller deal and if he doesnt take it, let him go and see what he think he can get out in F.A.
FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
All emotions aside
Bart Scott signing makes more sense over Ray. It will be a shame to lose the face of the franchise but in a team game, no one person can win it. I think if you compare the two and factor in age, Bart Scott has more on the field value to the club for a longer period of time.
"When they get drafted by the Baltimore Ravens, we expect them to play like that. Are we surprised? No."
by UMBC Oriole fan on Feb 25, 2009 6:57 PM EST reply actions
True that
Ray has been great for us, but now we must look towards the future. If we have a chance to re-sign Ray, we should do it, but not at the exspence of re-signing more then just one guy. Ray doesnt want a discount so let him go out and see what he can get. Baltimore can use the money to re-sign bart, brown, and maybe even Leonard and still have enough to go out and sign a WR or CB like L.Coles or P.Surtain.
FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE'LL TAKE JASON BROWN!!!!!
By the way what up Raven lovers?
"Alex was kissing Latino people's asses. He knew he wasn't going to play for the Dominicans; he's not a Dominican!"-Ozzie Guillen
Fine, let Brown go to the 'fins
Then he can spend every January on his sofa in warm sunny Florida watching us in the post season!
There’s no way the Dolphins repeat with their first place schedule this season. Even the Dolphin fans I heard on the sportstalk radio down there when I went to the playoff game (remember how great Pennington looked!?) said 7-9 if they’re lucky.
Rexx
It will be very tough year!
12-4!!! Just kidding. I would say 7-8 wins depending on what the trifecta does during the offseason. Brown would be a welcome addition. Would like to see secondary improve.
Well just wanted to drop by and say hello. Always check in with the beatdown once in a while.
I hope I die on the field, I hope when I walk to change the pitcher, I drop dead and that's it."-Ozzie Guillen
Just heard from a "source" that the Ravens told Jason Brown
that he wasn’t going to figure in their 2009 plans and wished him good luck!
Rexx
Your uping coming scedule
is going to be brutal. It will be a huge test for the franchise and the fan base not to panic when conditions aren’t as perfect for you guys as last year…
But hey, from what I hear…Brady still only has one leg to stand on. That leaves the Pats much weaker.
Seriously what has it been…4 surgeries and how many infections? That just plan sucks for everyone involved.
"When they get drafted by the Baltimore Ravens, we expect them to play like that. Are we surprised? No."
by UMBC Oriole fan on Feb 26, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I heard Brady is getting much better.
Damn media!!!
I hope I die on the field, I hope when I walk to change the pitcher, I drop dead and that's it."-Ozzie Guillen
Damn him too!!!
I hope I die on the field, I hope when I walk to change the pitcher, I drop dead and that's it."-Ozzie Guillen
Yeah but
At least Ed Reed makes shit look cool, even though they kicked the Fins ass
Cassell makes me want to piss on his leg
Oh someone did that, well damn that person too!
I hope I die on the field, I hope when I walk to change the pitcher, I drop dead and that's it."-Ozzie Guillen
I hate offseason….you see the good the bad and the ugly…i wish ray could have remained “The Man” forever but even the slightest hint at leaving B-more pisses me off.
Me too, but...
hopefully that will all be in the past by tomorrow and we’ll be back to his philosophizing long winded words of nothingness that will totally have me bro-mancing him again!
Rexx
tonight/tomorrow will be interesting indeed. i bet Ray gets 3 years 30 million from Stella Dora Biscotti….
Bart Scott best photo
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CAN WE DELETE THIS STORY PLEASE
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You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Buh-bye Bart
Sorry to see you go but your house in Randallstown will just have to go. You can find a one bedroom in Manhattan for around $2-3,000/mo. or so.
Get used to the colder weather and frustrating season ending collapses every year. Come sit w/ me at the Ravens home playoff game next season instead of sitting at home and watching the Ravens. $48 million? Hah!
Rexx
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