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Bart Scott Back in The Picture

It's beginning to look like the Baltimore Ravens free agent LB Bart Scott may return to the team after all. It has always be assumed that the Ravens were more interested in re-signing center Jason Brown and losing Scott due to salary cap restrictions. Once DE/LB Terrell Suggs was given the Franchise Tag last week, it appeared that Scott's days wearing purple and black were over. Everyone thought the next moves were to re-sign MLB Ray Lewis to his final contract and then focus on re-signing Brown to be the fixture over the ball in front of QB Joe Flacco for the next five or six years at the least.

Now it appears the team and Brown's agent are at odds over what position his salary should be based on. The team sees him as the center he's been all of last season while his agent thinks he should be paid as a guard. The difference is reported to be huge, around $2 million per year, which over the course of a multi-year contract, is a lot of cash. I don't understand his agent's logic, other than trying to get his client the most money. He states that Brown is an offensive lineman and should be paid like one, which would get him more if he received the average of what tackles, guards and centers get paid. However, something tells me if Brown was a tackle, that philosophy wouldn't help him and the agent wouldn't want that same logic applied at that point.

Therefore, if other teams are willing to pay Brown as a guard and the Ravens are not willing to budge from the center pay scale, then I personally wouldn't want to empty the bank on him at that cost. Thus, the re-emergence of the possibility of bringing back Bart Scott. Ironically, the agent for Jason Brown is,...yes indeed, Bart Scott's agent as well. Either way, the agent gets his cut and figures to get his percentage wherever his clients sign and the more they get, the more he does, so loyalty is out of the window from the agent's perspective.

The way I'd look at it under these new circumstances, let Brown go, re-sign Bart, then focus on getting Ray back for the remainder of his illustrious career. If Jason Brown can get a huge payday as a guard elsewhere, then go for it, Jason and good luck. The Ravens can then focus on either putting backup Chris Chester into that position or spending "center-only" bucks to bring in a free agent to replace Brown.

At the same time, I'd still like to see former (?) Steeler CB Bryant McFadden here, although many of you obviously think otherwise, as noted in your comments on yesterday's post. If we could follow my directions, that would be a great off season and set us up for a nice wideout with our first pick in April's Draft. Ozzie, give me a ring, we can discuss it further!

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If Bart signs....

The writing is on the wall. Ray is gone. Can’t see Ozzie spending about a quarter of our cap (30.75 mil) on LB’s. That’s too much to invest in one position. The league is changing. You have to rush the passer and stop the pass. We need more balance and spending that money on DB’s and offensive weapons makes more sense.

by Monkey C on Feb 25, 2009 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

Dunno about that

Bisciotti has always been pretty true to his word, except on Billick (which was fine by me). Perhaps Ray will sign for one year here and then wait until next when Dallas has more cap space!

Rexx

by Rexx on Feb 25, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions  

I also think

we can keep Bart and Ray. Not resigning Brown will free up enough to keep all three backers. I think it is a solid move. Since we can replace Brown from within, by moving Chester to center and Yanda back to guard.

Look at it as either keeping Ray, Suggs, Bart vs Ray, Suggs, and Brown. Either way we will have enough cap room to add a few guys to our positions of need, ie; WR and DB.

While I hate to lose Brown, I am glad Ozzie is staying true to his philosophy of right player, right price. As much as I like Brown, it makes no sense to pay a center guard money.

by DT711 on Feb 25, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Breaking News-Shawn Rodgers wants out of Cleveland (like everyone else)

Would you let Ray and Bart walk with a chance to get Rodgers. I would and then our LB’s in the wings would get their long awaited shot.

Also, on ESPN today they broke down Ray’s year and basically said the only thing he has going for him is on field coaching ability. They showed him not getting off blocks and not being able to pursue/late to the party. It was harsh but the video didn’t lie..although they picked and chose the clips-most from Giants game.

by raven on Feb 25, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

Ngata, Gregg, Bannon, Rodgers?

No thank you. Our D-Line may be our deepest position on the team, we do not need him.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 25, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

No offense Raven

But letting Bart and Ray go for Rodgers would not be smart. Especially when we already have Ngata and Gregg coming back.

We can’t pay Ngata next year if we pay Rodgers now. That would leave way too much $ in one position. I’ll take Ngata every time.

by DT711 on Feb 25, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

rodgers is the pass rushing beast that we need. we need more pressure. i’d do it. Gregg is coming off injury???
snipit- Cleveland lost their last 4 games by a combined score of 103-19. I’d want out too. lol.

by raven on Feb 25, 2009 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

pass rushing beast we need?

He had 4.5 sacks last year. Also, our big guys up front mainly take up blockers and do the dirty work. Our edge guys do most of the QB chasing.

by DT711 on Feb 25, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

he applies a lot of pressure on the QB from his position..4.5 is not bad considering he’s coming up the gut.

by raven on Feb 26, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Rodgers?

Why would we want that salary-cap eating fat man? He’s older and not nearly as good as Ngata, but made the Pro Bowl on rep rather than ability. Between Gregg, Ngata, Bannan and Douglas, we have enough space in the middle of the d-line and don’t need to waste any more money there. Anthony Weaver was released to day so we can get him back if we want- and cheap.

Rexx

by Rexx on Feb 25, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll take Weaver back..i liked him.

by raven on Feb 26, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

he WAS a big body!

Rexx

by Rexx on Feb 26, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

If Bart signs

Ray will most likly be gone and we can move on from this little game he’s playing. Ray wants to sign with Baltimore but is trying to get as much $ as he can. He is using every trick in the book because he knows that he is not the same player as he was before. I jsut hope baltimore isnt stupid enough to fall into his little game and give him some huge contract that he really doent deserve. Offer him a 3 year 18 million doller deal and if he doesnt take it, let him go and see what he think he can get out in F.A.

FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Benji5203 on Feb 25, 2009 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

thanks Benji..coudn’t put it better..someones gonna get served and i hope it ain’t B-more.

by raven on Feb 26, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

All emotions aside

Bart Scott signing makes more sense over Ray. It will be a shame to lose the face of the franchise but in a team game, no one person can win it. I think if you compare the two and factor in age, Bart Scott has more on the field value to the club for a longer period of time.

"When they get drafted by the Baltimore Ravens, we expect them to play like that. Are we surprised? No."

by UMBC Oriole fan on Feb 25, 2009 6:57 PM EST reply actions  

True that

Ray has been great for us, but now we must look towards the future. If we have a chance to re-sign Ray, we should do it, but not at the exspence of re-signing more then just one guy. Ray doesnt want a discount so let him go out and see what he can get. Baltimore can use the money to re-sign bart, brown, and maybe even Leonard and still have enough to go out and sign a WR or CB like L.Coles or P.Surtain.

FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Benji5203 on Feb 25, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds like a plan

by raven on Feb 27, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

WE'LL TAKE JASON BROWN!!!!!

By the way what up Raven lovers?

"Alex was kissing Latino people's asses. He knew he wasn't going to play for the Dominicans; he's not a Dominican!"-Ozzie Guillen

by rangerjae on Feb 26, 2009 6:53 AM EST reply actions  

I hate offseason….you see the good the bad and the ugly…i wish ray could have remained “The Man” forever but even the slightest hint at leaving B-more pisses me off.

by raven on Feb 26, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

Me too, but...

hopefully that will all be in the past by tomorrow and we’ll be back to his philosophizing long winded words of nothingness that will totally have me bro-mancing him again!

Rexx

by Rexx on Feb 26, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

tonight/tomorrow will be interesting indeed. i bet Ray gets 3 years 30 million from Stella Dora Biscotti….

by raven on Feb 26, 2009 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

I'm guessing....

$25-28 million w/ 20 guaranteed.

Rexx

by Rexx on Feb 26, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

i’ll still wake up poor

by raven on Feb 27, 2009 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

CAN WE DELETE THIS STORY PLEASE
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You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

Now whats your picture of MaLoR?

looks like the “chicken” never stood a chance

by raven on Feb 27, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

Chicken?

Just thought I would go a little personal

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 27, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

the one you choked

by raven on Feb 28, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Buh-bye Bart

Sorry to see you go but your house in Randallstown will just have to go. You can find a one bedroom in Manhattan for around $2-3,000/mo. or so.

Get used to the colder weather and frustrating season ending collapses every year. Come sit w/ me at the Ravens home playoff game next season instead of sitting at home and watching the Ravens. $48 million? Hah!

Rexx

by Rexx on Feb 28, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

as Louie Depalma would say- “Looooser”

by raven on Feb 28, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

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