nothing is said until after the season and even then they let their roster moves make their statements. Something tells me Harbs won’t “out” any single player.

I love that people compare what Flacco has done in his sophomore season with what Ben did in his — without taking into consideration the rest of the team around them. Ben had a lot of weapons to throw to, whereas Flacco, not so much. And maybe, just maybe, Ben has a bit more natural talent in certain areas than Flacco and vice versa. Why should that be a bad thing? If that wasn’t the natural order of things, then every QB out of college would be equally great and we would have a league full of modern versions of Unitas, Montana and Manning. If everyone had exactly the same level of all skills, we might as well just sim the season on Madden – at least the refereeing would be about the same…

Mason is not – and NEVER was a deep threat. His primary use, in his prime with the TItans, was 10-15 yards coming across the middle. Williams might have potential based on the Lions game (I think) but is still, imo, a #2 at best. Clayton, I would qualify as a bust. He just doesn’t have the instinct (or occasionally the skills) needed to be a primary receiver.

Not sure we need to take up a roster spot with a “veteran QB” to mentor Flacco though when the same job could be done with a special assistant QB coach – preferably someone who’s playing style was similar to what Flacco’s will be. Possibly a job for Dilfer or Testaverde?

I’ll take half of those plays and we win at least two more games over the course of the season. He didn’t make the plays in the NE game early on, nor the Vikings game, much less th first or both Cincy games. He didn’t do it in the Indy game and not the final two series of the Steeler game Sunday. Too many ill advised passes that got INT’d in the RZ and holding onto the ball when he knew walls were crashing down all around him.

Troy can go take a hike, although he’ll sit wherever he goes (Cleveland backup?). Beck is a fine backup and we can sign a older guy to carry the clipboard and mentor Joe.

and that’s the trend we’ve seen, unfortunately. If we’d seen improvement on those areas of mistakes in both execution and penalties, fine. But after 15 games, the answer is sadly “no.”

His real “mom” is a pistol! Plus his “sister” is hot!!!

like some no name oc would have done us any better. Instead last season the ravens come up huge with an offensive minded former head coach willing to be our offensive coordinator that not only helps us move the ball like the ravens have never seen before, but helps move joe flacco, a rookie, turn into an elite qb (by the defination of john clayton of espn) leading the team to the afc title game. There are always going to be calls people question, had they gone right, you’d be on your knees calling him the greatest. Grip as you will, I still think we are way better off having Cam on our team then not.

Yep. I will give you that he can move the ball but it’s all or nothing. He goes all or nothing when a simple methodical pounding of the ball with 3 very good running backs and a great possession receiver. But he jump balls and deep balls 1st downs and we end up with 3rd and longs. 3rd and longs vs. Pitt = Sacks. Every time. Flacco is horrible at 3rd and longs and recognizing blitzes/ game situations and field position. I don’t care if Cousins gets beat. Flacco shouldn’t be surprised. Cousins got beat the entire game. Prepare for it Joe Robot.

Cam will get you large chunks of yardage but he calls unecessary deep balls just as we are pounding the hell out of teams. He plays to the competition. With a coach like that you will come up short 1/2 the time as the ball bounces funny ways and you leave much to gamble. Ray Rice got 1 pass on Sunday and turned it into a 15 yard gain. Ray Rice was not thrown to again. That is 1/2 of Rices game. We did pound him up the middle betweent he 30’s and then he disappeared from the game plan. Rice up the gut is not his best game. He is better in space or around the ends with McClaine and McGahee taking the huge hits in the middle. I realize he got 140 but the Steelers were more than happy to get us into 2nd and 6’s. How many times did we run again on 2nd andlong forcing those 3rd and longs and obvious passing downs that Flacco can’t handle. How many times is Flacco going to look like Boller in crunch time. Escape the pocket, step up in the pocket, dump it off…just don’t go down like a wimp and lose the game- again.

If we were preparing for Pitt. then why all the trick plays against Chicago. Why waste the downs if it’s not something we’ll be doing in 7 days. Wouldn’t theat be time better spent establishing Kelly Washington in the passing game. Use the Troy Smith plays and reverses against Pitt.. Cam takes the same game plan into Pitt every time. We are bread and butter. At least Heap got some looks but they were jump balls again. That is a chicken way of taking it to ta team. I don’t like Cams play calling at all !! Geee, he beat horrible teams with it. He hasn’t beat a winning team with his O since he’s been here. It was turnovers and defense last year. 1-9 vs. Pitt in Pitt. Embarrassing.