Ravens/Steelers: Best Rivalry in NFL?
Even if you don't root for either of these teams, when they're on the tube, football fans everywhere tune in for an example of what real, old school football is really like. Hard hitting, violent action defines this rivalry and records or stats don't matter when these two teams face each other. First off, the players seem to dislike each other as much as their fan base does, as especially evidenced by the comments in the posts on both SB Nation sites when they come up on the schedule. The Pittsburgh Steelers SB Nation site, Behind The Steel Curtain, has a huge and loyal following who travel to other teams' site as well as their fans do to opponents' stadiums around the league. Conversely, Baltimore Beatdown has a passionate following that knows their football pretty well and can talk smack with any other teams' fans in the league as well.
The fact that this game has playoff implications for both teams is a plus to the tenseness of the game, but that really doesn't matter. These two teams would probably agree to meet in a sandlot and play without pads if they could. They don't care about the weather, the stats, the cameras (well they probably do care about the cameras), they just want to get out there and hit someone. Some of the most vicious hits I've ever seen in a football game have come from these games. Who won't soon forget the hit that Bart Scott put on Ben Roethlisberger that Big Ben says was the hardest he's ever been hit. Same for the shot that Hines Ward gave to Ed Reed, Ray Lewis to Rashard Mendenhall, Limas Sweed to Corey Ivy and Ryan Clark to Willis McGahee. You could keep listing other ones that made you wince when you saw and heard them live, and that doesn't include what must be going on in the trenches and the scrums after tackles.
There are other rivalries in the NFL but most of them are based on long standing history, not the specific hard hitting action that this one thrives on. The NFC East has some good rivalries and great fans, but are they the equal of the Ravens/Steelers right now? Nothing comparable in the NFC North, despite the switching of allegiance of Brett Favre from Green Bay to Minnesota. The NFC South or West? Uhhh, no. Over in the AFC, the Raiders/Chiefs was a great one, but the key word is "was." San Diego/Denver isn't even close and nothing else there is worth mentioning. The AFC South's teams haven't been around long enough to warrant inclusion in this discussion even with the hated Indianapolis Colts there. Over in the AFC East, there are some good rivalries between the New York Jets, New England Patriots and Miami Dolphins (sorry Buffalo) but nothing to compare.
So that makes this weekend's Ravens game in Pittsburgh the best of not only the weekend, but perhaps the best of the season. Hopefully the game will live up to the hype, which it usually does, but nevertheless, it will have all the action, hitting and trash talking in advance of Sunday- and that is just with the fans!
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Cowboys/Eagles
Is a lot better than Giants/Eagles
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by Baltimore Warrior on Dec 22, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions
I hope the flex the game so I can watch after the Bengals game
If we win I will be rooting for you. If we don’t I will be forced to root for the Steelers.
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Personally just flammed that post up to 77 posts.
Sorry, I get carried away at picking on Steeler fans… I’m really good at pushing their buttons. That, and I’m bored since I won’t have my new job here in MD start unti Jan.
Sorry again.
Sorry, I get carried away at picking on Steeler fans
nuh uh?
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by SoCalSteelerFan on Dec 22, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if you would call it a rivalry...
But there were some epic games in the late 80’s and early 90’s between the 49ers and Cowboys. They had everything. Intense hatred, crushing hits, amazing offense, Michael Irvin all zooted up, I could go on and on…
In terms of present rivalries...
Ravens vs. Steelers is on par with Cowboys vs. Redskins and Packers vs. Vikings. Pats vs. Jets is a no and Giants vs. Eagles is also a no. One long standing rivalry that didn’t get mentioned because neither team is a playoff threat is Chiefs vs. Raiders. To this day, it is still a heated rivalry even though both teams are weak competition for the rest of the league.
THEY BOTH BEAT THE STEELERS THIS YEAR!
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Davidson-Taylor-Dawson Incident
I would agree. Ravens-Steelers might be the most intense right now, but if both teams cycle down, I think it would wane. I agree that Cowboys-Redskins endures (I live in the DC area so I see “Dallas Week” firsthand). But I still think the grand-daddy of them all is Chiefs-Raiders, as a) they are in the same division b) it is the Raiders, by far the most hated team in the league for reasons to numerous to mention; the Immaculate Reception, the “Tuck” rule? call it cosmic karma and c) the above mentioned incident propelled the Raiders into the playoffs at the expense of the Chiefs when it should have been the other way around. Of course in the end it would not have really mattered as we all remember (err, know in my case as I was a year and half at the time) in January of ’71 at the SuperBowl.
i disagree
since both of the teams might not even make the playoffs (unlikely, but possible) the rivalry means nothing this year, skins/boys is nothing this year either, nor is chiefs/raiders, get real, that was probably the worst game any of us have ever seen, neither team deserved to win…
by danielreese05 on Dec 23, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
ok so "nothing" might be a little harsh
but it’s not as big as it was last year when i would have agreed hands down
by danielreese05 on Dec 23, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Steelers/Ravens is the best rivalry in the NFL
That said, it’s also only a temporary rivalry. It’s not permanent like tOSU/Michigan or Redskins/Dallas. The Ravens and the Steelers are just two football teams that play in the same division; playoffs for either team depend, in part, on the games played between them.
Add the proximity of the fans and the similarity of the styles of play, and you got a really good rivalry. The Steelers are number one and Ravens are number two in total defense over the last decade.
When one team starts to suck, the rivalry will be over. I remember like four seasons ago, (not sure, but the season where Carson Palmer got knocked out by the Steelers in the Wild Card round) and Sports Illustrated had a cover like “The best rivalry in the NFL?”
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I still hate the Steelers
Even when Baltimore as an off-year just about every other season. The only way this rivalry will die down is if either team starts to suck for an extended period of time, i.e. 3+ years.
They say the empty can rattles the most...
Back in the old days...........
It was the Bears and Packers. LOmbardi and “Papa Bear” Halas has great disdain for each other. The all time sports rivalry still has to be the one between Ohio State and Michigan. Unless you live here you won’t understand. In the NFL today I would have to sat the Steelers and Ravens is the best. I am looking forward to the game. For Bengals fans this year is typical in some ways. The Ravens and Steelers die hard. That is why I won’t bury you until you are dead. And then I will wait a day just to make sure you don’t climb fighting out of the grave.
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Zombies out of a Grave
I agree. If the Squeelers beat the Ravens and somehow make the playoffs, that is truly climbing out of the grave. Heck, bury the Steelers, and build a giant office building over the grave, and zone so that even Obama and the EPA cannot interfere with it…
Talk about Zombies rising, if the Titans, of all teams, somehow make the playoffs, that would truly be a feat of Lazariun proportion…
Did everyone forget about Raiders/Chargers?
I don’t know of too many fans that will throw batteries at opposing teams fans. There is intense hatred there that followed from Oakland, to L.A. and back again.
That being said, our rivalry followed the Purple Browns from Cleveland. I hate your team, but have intense respect for them. At the same time, I hate most of you (few exceptions), and I’m sure you guys aren’t too fond of me.
Did you guys know that when Chris Henry died that not a single Brownies fan went over and posted on any of the commiseration threads the Bungholes had up on their site? The Skidmarks didn’t even have a post about his tragic death on their shit-stain of a site. I did notice, however, how many Ravens and Steelers fans went over and offered condolances to our almost equally hated division rival last week. Coincidence? I think not. For all our mutual hatred, we are still fairly classy people, who can put aside our vitriol for a good cause.
That’s it.
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Dec 23, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I must ask why you didn't go with Patroits/Colts but went with Patroits/Jets
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DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Chris Carter and Kevin Greene
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Non-division foes
do not meet every year like all the others, which have built up over time The Colts-Pats is just a game here and there for the playoffs and occasionally the regular season, but nowhere near the intensity of the others, IMO.
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by Bruce Raffel on Dec 23, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
as long as they continue finishing first in thier divisons
They will meet every year.
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Dec 23, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
They only met this year because
they both finished second last year! Can’t seem to escape each other! Imagine how well Cincy will do playing a 1st place schedule and also the Steelers conversely playing a 3rd place one!
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by Bruce Raffel on Dec 23, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
it only impacts two games
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Dec 24, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
eagles fan here. i def feel that over the last couple years it has been the ravens/steelers due to the similarity between the two teams. But i think the Cowboys/Eagles are right with them, alot of eagles fans are torn between Eagles/Cowboys and Eagles/Giants. But they are def both up there. Well i also live in Maryland so im around Ravnes fans everyday
go ravens
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Eagles Rivalry
It’s Dallas/Eagls. Not even close. Trust me, living here in Philly, albeit Eagles fans hate the Giants, the hatred for the Cowboys is far superior to the hatred for the Giants.
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let's not kid ourselves here folks
this decade was defined by colts-pats. steelers/ravens just doesn’t have the history and, for the most part, it’s a one sided affair in terms of the “dynasty” factor (6 to 1? come on, not even close). in terms of this rivalry, it’s 4-3 in favor of the colts and the patriots were robbed by an inhuman effort by the giants D-line and david tyree back in 07 from tying the series. colts/pats though is interesting every year, has major playoff implications and has often decided home field advantage. plus they only play once a year in the regular season so it’s not like if you lose the first time you can win the next one to make up for it a few weeks down the road. steelers ravens is ok, but the last game was just sloppy, the last colts/pats game? up for game of the year, no debate. face it, the two best QB’s of the decade going at it trounces the streaky 2nd year man and the dude who fell off a motorcycle.
Don't forget
The Steelers/Browns rivalry before they moved to Baltimore was the nastiest on the planet. They took everything with them when they jumped ship from Cleveland.
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Oh come on!
The Colts-Pats played a handful of times for big things, but the Ravens-Steelers go to war TWICE a season, every season!
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by Bruce Raffel on Dec 23, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
fine
if you want to go by how frequently the teams have met, it’s 73 colts/pats, 28 steelers/ravens. the playoffs? colts/pats 3, steelers/ravens 2.
so…..
by danielreese05 on Dec 26, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
fine
colts pats has met 73 times, 3 in the playoffs
ravens steelers has met 28 times, twice in the playoffs.
so…
by danielreese05 on Dec 26, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but we're talking
right now, and right now the Ravens and Steelers are a better true game thanb the no-defense Pats-Colts matchups that perhaps the casual fans might like but true football fans drool at the Ravens-Steelers matchups nowadays.
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by Bruce Raffel on Dec 27, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Ask someone who isn't a pats/colts/ravens/steelers fan
And they’ll probably agree with pats/colts 95 times out of 100. There’s a reason the hype for 1 is always through the roof and the other only got a lot of attention last year..
Uh, I'm not a Pats or Colts fan
and I wouldn’t put that in my top 3 or 4.
1. Ravens-Steelers
2. Cowboys-Eagles
3. Vikings-Packers
4. Eagles-Giants
5. Bengals-Browns (Oh yeah, Battle of Ohio, baby!)
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by Bruce Raffel on Dec 27, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
i can agree with most of those
but ravens steelers shouldn’t be 1. i’d put it as 3 with colts/pats as 1 and either boys/eagles or vikes/packers as 2.
number 5 though…sorry man, it’s not a rivalry if it’s one sided
by danielreese05 on Dec 27, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Colts/Pats usually means nothing
The last Colts/Pats game meant nothing: NE will win the division even with the loss and the Colts would have the one seed even with a win. Looking back, that game was as meaningless as Chiefs/Raiders this season.
While the Steelers/Ravens rivalry has little history (unless you include the time before the Browns turned purple), it still has more than Pats/Colts, which barely covers a decade.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Dec 23, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
Like Giants-49ers of Old
Or even Cowpokes-49ers of old. Patsies-Dolts do not necessarily play each other each year, plus they are two finesse teams -you are not going to have the trench warfare, ambulance-calling-hits and dare I say it: “dirty” play that are hallmarks of Ravens-Steelers.
I remember back in the late ’80’s/early 90’s there were pretty good rivalries between the Cowboys and Giants and especially the Giants and the 49ers as those three were perennially fighting for the NFC SuperBowl slot and I believe Lawrence Taylor got into a fight with a 49er at the end of a playoff game or Monday night game or something like that which only added to it.
But present day Ravens-Steelers is the closest thing to the old Bears-Packers games, except nastier… And btw, it is not a lopsided as you think or as it appears on paper.
Raiders/Broncos is always fun to watch.
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by Baltimore Warrior on Dec 23, 2009 10:30 AM EST reply actions
Right now
Steelers-Ravens is a good, physical rivalry. But the NFL is a business, and since Pats-Colts and anything involving the Cowgirls, Eagles, Giants, Chargers are aerial-first, they are going to be more popular. Don’t shoot me, but even Steelers-Ravens is starting to skew towards an aerial battle. Big Ben vs. Flacco? Could be compelling in the future.
Touchdown, Ronnie Brown Edition!
What?
Patriots/Colts. Almost every game they’ve played this decade has been a classic. The 2003 goal line stand game, the 06 AFC championship game (Game of the decade candidate right there), the 07, 08, and 09 games all came right down to the wire (07 and 09 probably the best regular season games of their respective years).
I can’t think of memorable or meaningful ravens/steelers games outside of 08 (when it WAS the greatest rivalry for that year). But the fact that pats/colts only meet 1 maybe two times a year only increases the anticipation for those games. Like any other non-division rivalry it’ll fade once one team starts to suck, but right now, it’s the best rivalry in the NFL, and will define the ’00s when people look back on this decade.
The onloy things that made the Colts-Pats" classics"
was what was on the line as it was usually playoff football, but that was not my point. It was the rivalry that goes with playing twice per season regardless of where you finished the year before. The only reason they played each other and will again next season is that they finished and will finish first in their divisions. First time they finish in different places will result in not playing each other. To me, that’s just not a rivalry.
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by Bruce Raffel on Dec 25, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I can see where you're coming from
But I think that actually makes the rivalry that much more fiery, each team is only going to have so long to take their shot at the top, and these two are always in the others way. Without the Colts, who’s to say the Patriots don’t take home the Lombardi in ‘06 (They had already beaten the Bears that season), and vice versa with the colts in ’03 and ’04. They have that much more reason to hate the other team because they’re the others biggest obstacle from achieving greatness before their window closes.
That's like saying
the Steelers wouldn’t have won the SB last season if my Ravens didn’t take them to the brink three times to prepare them for what they did in the final seconds against the Cards to win it all
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