Ravens Peaking at Right Time
The Baltimore Ravens won twice in a row for the first time since opening the season with three straight. Granted it was against the weakest teams in the NFC North and both games were at home, but when you beat the teams you are supposed to by a combined score of 79-10, it still is impressive In fact, the Ravens have now moved to the league's #2 team in points allowed, giving up an average of 16 points/game, second only to the New York Jets' 15.5 However, over the teams last eight games, they've been the NFL's stingiest, allowing a paltry 11.9 points per game. At home they only gave up that same 11.9 points/game while scoring an average of just under 30 points/game (28.8), while finishing their home schedule 6-2. On the road has been a different story, though. So far the Ravens are only 2-4, averaging 20 points a game while surrendering 21.7. However, since the Bye week, they are being outscored by an average of only 14-12. The Green Bay Packers have been the only team since the Bye week, home or away, to score more than 17 points against us (27) and they put up 36 in Pittsburgh yesterday in their disappointing last second 37-36 loss
Steelers fans will say that we barely beat them in overtime with their third string QB a month ago and with Ben Roethlisberger it will be different this week in Pittsburgh. Steelers fans will say that we just beat up on terrible teams that just rolled over for us here in Baltimore But then Ravens fans will point to the Steelers loss vs Oakland in Pittsburgh, plus their losses at Cleveland and Kansas City in return, much less to a Bears team in Chicago that the Ravens just put a beatdown on yesterday.
As both teams' fans know though, it doesn't matter what the standings or records are when these two teams meet each other. It is a knock down streetfight, with pride on the line more than anything else When the Steelers beat the Ravens three times last year, that hurt much more to Baltimore fans than seeing Pittsburgh hoist the Super Bowl trophy. Regardless of where the Ravens finish this season, if they sweep the season series from the Steelers, then we will have the trash talking advantage until next year.
However, as the standings and upcoming schedule pans out, the Ravens should still be able to make the post season even if they don't go into Heinz Field and win next Sunday, as the other contenders' schedules are real tough and the tie breakers favor the Ravens in most cases once the smoke clears. Right now, the Ravens are in the 1st Wild Card slot and teams will have to leap over the Denver Broncos to get ahead of the Ravens. The Ravens finish out their regular season at the Oakland Raiders and while Oakland has not had a good season, they have beaten the Steelers in Pittsburgh and just beat the Broncos in Denver yesterday. Finishing up in Oakland will be tough but if the Ravens take care of business in Pittsburgh this coming Sunday, it might not matter by the time we get to the West Coast.
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Run Run Run
Have to run it in the last two games. It is that god damn simple. Rice needs the ball 20+ times. I am tired of seeing him get only 14 carries each game. The more carries he gets, the more likely of a chance there is for him to break one 50+ yards to the house. He literally gets better and better every week. I see some mistakes in his running style one week, then the next week he fixes it right away and it shows. Chris Johnson is really good, but Rice is arguably the most complete RB in the league right now. Bench Willis and never give him the ball please. God he is slow. I rather see Matt Lawarence in there getting carries than Mcgahee. If Rice and McClain do not combine for at least 30 carries next week, we are most likely losing that game.
Joe needs to stop with the backfoot throws. He is leaning his body backwards on some of his throws way too much and the ball looks slow going through the air. I did love some of his placements on the ball to Heap and Mason though. Great reads. D-Williams has to see the ball next week. I do not see us beating Pitt if we just play conservative. Yes, we MUST run the ball but 1 or 2 huge plays from Williams could really end the game early. That dude is playing great ball right now.
Leave Troy Smith out of there. It was nice to see the Suggs Package against a shitty team, but that aint working against Pitt. Throwing backwards and crap to Joe, god we make it look so obvious. Keep him on the sideline.
Next week on rides on our defense. With Webb out, I do not think we stand a chance against Ben and those WR. Foxworth will get destroyed by Holmes. I don’t even want to start with what Ward and Wallace will be able to do to Frank Walker. Ward will be so physical with him off the snap, that at some point in the game Walker will lose his cool and get those oh so beautiful Pass Interference calls. Wallace will burn him so badly, I bet we see the most desperate pull of a jersey while he is falling to the ground to at least stop the 70 yard TD from happening we have ever seen. With Webb out, our best tackler on the team is gone. We need to have 5+ sacks on the day to win this game against Bennigans.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Agree, run, run, run.....
There’s no way we’re getting 5+ sacks, let alone one. Ben is too hard to bring down, our corners will have trouble covering and we’re not getting penetration right now. We need to run and eat up clock and hope we can outlast them. They’ve looked good running the ball, they need to stick with it. Man I hate special teams sometimes, I hate having to put good players out there when they may get hurt. Webb has been such a breath of fresh air it sucks he had to go down.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk - Tuco
by ravoriobulleterpitals on Dec 21, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
To beat Pitt:
Stack the line, play man in coverage and don’t use Ray on passing downs. If we play zone with a 3/4 man front Ben will pick us apart. We need to go faster at LB on obvious pass downs and don’t blitz the LB. Holmes will eat us up over the middle as soon as we blitz an LB. We need to be patient and contain Ben and let him beat himself. We cannot go into a zone D and blitz Ray. Not once.
This would be a great game to put Kruger on the end and move Sluggs inside. Ed Reed needs to commit on a route and can’t afford to sit deep and hawk. He was a no show in the last years huge Pitt games. We could use him as a DB and putt Zibby at Safety. One of those guys needs to spell Washington or Walker OR replace them. I don’t have faith that Walker can go an entire game without a deep pass interference. I’m not sure he can concentrate for an entire game.
We need to establish McClaine in the run. Every one and their mother knows we will rely on Rice ) especially when Cam tightens up like Chinese handcuffs. Come out with a pound it down your throat approach with McClaine will throw Pitt for a loop and wear them out. We can then let Rice get that extra step on them. As GB did, throw deep on these guys.
Our only success against a depleted Pitt team last time saw our biggest plays coming on the deep ball. Gay is weak back there. It would be a good time to let D-Will prove his jumping ability if he gets 1 on 1 coverage. Let Mason draw off the best DB with his usual routes, keep Heap in to block and let Kelly Washington surprise them with his hiden abilities over the middle.
We need to use Kelly Washington and McClaine as Rice’s complements this game. I think Pitt will be unprepared for those 2.
Key to teh game is Mark Clayton
If Clayton is healthy that means little or no D-Will. If Clayton is still out, D-Will gets reps and makes plays.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Dec 21, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Who would you want between Clayton and D-Will?
by purpleonblack86 on Dec 21, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
D-Will
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people constantly say you cannot do.
by Zachary Beard on Dec 22, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
ok
the bears stopped ray rice so how id run run run gonna help when the steelers defense is better then the bears so its more like run and pass
Bears far from stopped Ray
Did you see some of the runs he had? If Rice got 25 carries yesterday, he would have had well over 125 yards.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
One of the two times Rice had a long gain,
thye gave it right back to him the very next play and he got nothing. The other time Flacco went to pass but we had a penalty so the next play they gave it to Rice again fo rno gain. Talk about still predictable – Yup!
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by Bruce Raffel on Dec 21, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
really really really nervous with webb out. Maybe we will do something crazy and address the issue in free agency this weekend but I have a feeling ozzie will sit back and feel good with what we have. sigh
C-Mac anybody?
Actions speak louder than black people in a movie theater......
by Zachary Beard on Dec 21, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yea
I feel great with Frank “Where’s My” Walker and Chris “Can’t Even Cover A Parked” Carr.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
You forgot Domique"less than a penny in Fox"worth
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by Zachary Beard on Dec 21, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Walker just makes me angry
I wasn’t going to say anything about “Fifteen Yard Penalty” Frank Walker but what a douche!!! He snags a lame duck interception, then goes about celebrating it on the field by chucking the intercepted ball. He is truly the biggest detriment to the team bar none. He will NOT be missed after this season concludes! What an A-hole!
He was just excited because he never gets that kind of chance
It will be interesting seeing how he does against the Steelers next week. Who knows, he might actually be good.
Actions speak louder than black people in a movie theater......
by Zachary Beard on Dec 21, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Not real excited about this win-
1. Flacco missed a wide open Heap at least 4 times and dumped to Rice and forced a ball to D-Will.
2. The D-Will pass was into double coverge. An unecessary risk against a bad team when only such a risk could cause us to lose.
3. The cute play with the pass to Flacco. Flacco caught the ball and FORCED the throw ino coverage for an incompletion. He didn’t have to throw the ball. So manyu times players feel that a trick play is a pass to just chuck it. Rookie mistake.
4. Cam treated the Bears like World Champs going scrared and running 2 straight QB sneaks on our 1 and then handing off. The punt resulted in a return TD. How chicken shit was that series. Heap was left alone all day. Mason could have been used and Rice should have had 3 carries (at least in that spot). Playing it safe? How? We gave the Bears the ball w/ great field position either way.
5. Gadget plays against bad teams. Why? Bread and butter kills the Bears but Cam gets tough with the gadget plays against bad teams. -I GUARANTEE that Cam will be so tight next week that we will be lucky to squeak out a 10 yard pass. You will see such a conservative game that we will let Pitt stick around HWN WE CAN put them away. Don’t trust Cam in a big game.
6. Most important of all was the absolute STUPIDITY of Harbaugh for keeping his best players in well after the game was decided. WHAT THE HELL were the starters doing in the game in the 4th quarter. We are thin at DB and there is no way I risk WEBB out here. NO WAY!!
That is on Harbaugh and absolutely kills us against Pitt.
I don’t have a great feeling about this win. It’s sort of empty as we didn’t establish the run, ran gimmicks and watched Flacco short throws to Mason in the end zone and, throw into double coverage and not see Heap wide open all day.
It’s a win but it was the Bears and Lions. We need some luck Sunday. Our pass rush stinks, we lost Webb and Ben just tossed for 500 on a team we couldn’t move the ball on. I am infuriated about the Webb loss in a blow out game. Thanks Harbaugh.
When did Webb get hurt exactly?
I thought it was in the 3rd quarter. I wouldn’t consider it a very smart move to sit one of your best CB’s against a QB that is capable of going off, especially when there is still more than a quarter left to play. If Webb was hurt in the final two minutes during garbage time, then maybe I’d understand.
Special teams play, His foot bent backwards
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by Zachary Beard on Dec 21, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
ST’s. Even worse. Why put guys from a depleted position on ST’s when you can load it up with bench guys and our 50 LB’s – especially leading by 24 at home against a team that gave up. Stupid. Just like when Billick had Qadry Ismail on ST’s when he was our only receiver way back when. Ismail hurt his leg and went on IR.
Thin at position=use sparingly
Root for Houston this weekend...
(As well as the Ravens of course) because with a Miami loss, even a loss to the Steelers would not harm the Ravens’ playoff bid in terms of what everyone else around them needs to do to make it.
Denver @ Philly – I don’t like the Broncos chances there
Jags @ NE – Again, not very good odds the Jags win that one
Jets @ Indy – I’m starting to notice a pattern
Miami hosts Houston – Lets go Texans
Peaking??
Two wins against crappy teams and we’re peaking? Until we beat a good team, we’re just average, at best….we’ve lost against all the good teams…only beaten the crappy ones…except for San Diego…and that was very early in the season…
We need big wins in Pitt and Oakland to even be worth a playoff spot…
I’d like to be confident against the Steelers but the track record keeps getting in the way. I’m just disappointed that we didn’t establish a key aspect of the game against the Bears. We were all over the place which you would expect to be against a good team. This was the Bears and I wanted to see us get McClaine and McGahee going. I wanted to see us keep going at Heap considering he was open every other play with the Bears hawking Rice. But we didn’t. We went to gimmicks and jump balls. How many times are we going to use Mason as a jump ball guy in the corner of the end zone. That is a chicken play and NEVER works. I still see a lack of trust in Flacco with that play and the 2 qb sneaks on the 1. If that is the case, we are still not ready for Pitt after 2 years.
yea, I’m very worried about next week’s game in Pittsburgh. These past two wins have been great, but they were expected to be blowouts, they mean nothing. Pittsburgh is going to come in with momentum after that last second wind. The loss of Webb is also going to hurt alot. I think we’re going to revert back to the team that has trouble converting when it has to. Next week’s not going to be pretty.
Still mean something
We took care of business. If we had only won the past two bya few points then it might have siad we weren’t ready, but slaughtering those two poor temas shows what has happened all season in that we beat the teams we’re supposed to but have problems wit the others.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Dec 21, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Do you think Ben get’s 2 qb sneaks on his own 1 against the Bears at home? No. Throw deep..It’s as good as a punt if it’s INT’d. Besides, that’s all Cam was looking for on that series- a punt. Chicken. You play to win the game. Giving the opposing team the ball back on the 40 (which the punt would have done if not for the run back) is pretty much giving them at least 3. I don’t get it…..yeah I do.
I hope, I have really missed this guy
And he looked just plain out weird wearing the number 29 for the Saints. We might be ’Covered" for the rest of the season if we sign him.
Actions speak louder than black people in a movie theater......
by Zachary Beard on Dec 21, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Here are the CB's who are currently out on the street
Fakhir Brown, 32: Nine-year NFL journeyman played for UFL’s Florida Tuskers this season.
Jason Craft, 33: Nickel back for Rams last season.
Jason David, 27: Member of Colts’ Super Bowl team who lasted only six days with Lions this season.
Jamar Fletcher, 30: Former Dolphins first-round pick has played for five teams in eight seasons.
Eric Green, 27: Played four seasons with Cardinals before bouncing around to the Dolphins and 49ers this season.
Corey Ivy, 32: Former Ravens nickel back has had stints with Browns and Steelers this season.
Brian Kelly, 33: Longtime Buccaneers cornerback last played in 2008 with the Lions.
Michael Lehan, 30: Played for Browns, Dolphins and Saints in his seven-year career.
Chris McAlister, 32: Three-time Pro Bowl defender for Ravens who played two games for New Orleans this season
R.W. McQuarters, 33: Former 49ers first-round pick played for New York Giants from 2006 to 2008.
Deltha O’Neal, 32: Two-time Pro Bowl selection played for Patriots in 2008 before getting cut by Texans in September.
Patrick Surtain, 33: Three-time Pro Bowl defender hasn’t played since getting cut by Chiefs in the offseason.
Jason Webster, 32: Started for 49ers, Falcons and Bills in injury-filled career.
by Senses Working Overtime on Dec 21, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmmm.....I think Deltha O'Neal, Patrick Surtain.........should get a try out. Chris McAlister
did not look too good while playing for the Saints. I wish Mike McKenzie was still available.
+1
I’m in man love with O’Neal……..
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by Zachary Beard on Dec 21, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone here is such a downer
I came here looking to see some excitement for the pitt game and all im reading is complaints, what gives? Yes we beat 2 teams we were suppose to but it was more how we beat them. Yes you can take bad things away from a win, but the important thing was we didnt let those negatives change the game. Yes we lost webb, probably the worst part of that game, but lets just hope our guys step up. Screw you guys, im gonna go talk trash to a steelers fan, you guys can complain some more
We just know Big Ben will rape our secondary
Like he did to Andrea McNulty
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by Zachary Beard on Dec 21, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Its not really complaining. We're worried because the team has lost its best corner to a season ending
injury. Plus, Ben Roethlisberger has ben dynamite lately and that doesn’t bode well for the Ravens secondary that already has question marks. Ravens fans should be worried.
I wouldn't call Ben dynamite.
Two weeks ago, Big Ben got sacked EIGHT TIMES, by the BROWNS! They beat GB the following week by ONE POINT.
I am NOT impressed. We can still beat these fools.
We will rock them like a hurricane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sISJkCJ7Jto&feature=related
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by Zachary Beard on Dec 21, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Ben passed for 500 yards on the GB Packers. The Packers defense isn't horrible by
any stretch of the imagination. Its pretty good. The problem in that game against the Packers wasn’t Big Ben; it was the Steelers defense, which is terrible right now. That gives me hope.
Ben and Steelers win for te first time
in six games and now we’re almost hiding in such fear!? WTF guys? Who says the Steelers can play well two weeks in a row. The Packers game was more of an aberration on their season than their losses to Cleveland, Oakland and KC were! Come on, we are the better team and will finish off the sweep Sunday, Webb or Walker doesn’t matter!
aka 'Rexx'
They are our daddy's still
raven admits, i admit. We aint prove nothing against them this year. Until I see us beat them in Pitt when we have to, like we do this Sunday, they still rule us. Bruce, even though they lost to those teams, they still beat the Vikings and Packers in ways we were not able to. Yea, both those games were at home for them, but those two damn good teams.
If we win on Sunday, the Ravens have accomplished the first first goal of our season, sweep the Steelers.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
We are the baby they never wanted..........
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by Zachary Beard on Dec 21, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
We would have beaten Minnesota here
and who knows about the Pack. Conversely, Steelers would have lost both those close games away. This is a different year and I think we are the better team, with or w/o Ben, until they prove otherwise. Couldn’t care less about the no Ben, no Troy BS, nor will put balme on no Ed, no Webb, no Suggs stuff.
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by Bruce Raffel on Dec 22, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
What pisses me off is that we had to go to OT against a Ben and Troy-less Steelers team. We failed on our last 3-4 possesions to put the game away. Dixon was driving for the win before the INT.
With Troy (maybe) and Ben back, what’s changed for us to make us beat them. The only thing between the last meeting and this one is a few wins against horrible teams at home. What’s changed is that we lost Webb-who kept us in the GB game with his coverage and tackling. Claytons hurt, Reeds hurt, and our secondary is weak. At full strength I could see a close game. But, after watching Ben and the Steelers run 4-5 receiver sets every other play I am not sure where we expect to find coverage. Holmes and Ward are 2 of the best at finding holes around the LB position. Ray will have to be at the top of his pass coverage game for us to have a chance on defense.
We need to come out running with McClaine and Rice. I’m not a fan of Willis against the Steelers. McClaine was really taking it to the Steelers last year but, for some terrible reason, Cam used him sparingly. If the game starts getting away Flacco and Cam better be prepared to spread it out and air it out. I’m talking 4 receivers and 2 step drops. I think they can but they haven’t put together anything that has resembled a game plan against a winning team. Maybe in NE. Remember, the Vikings had us whipped over the first 3 quarters. They set the tempo.
You make a lot of good points.
I think you’re on to something when you talk about playing conservatively. Fancy-schmancy plays could really backfire. Against a team like the Steelers, you have to be steady, methodical, careful, wary.
LBs guard the middle, DBs cover deep like crazy, and somebody up front has got to keep bringing on the blitz. On offense, just keep running the ball on them. With three great RBs, there’s no excuse not to do this. I think they should keep the ball on the ground as much as possible, but throw it every now and then just to mix it up. Flacco also really needs to concentrate on not getting spooked, because that has really cost us.
Call me an optimistic MF, but
just as we have weaknesses, so do they. And right now, we are still the better team. I just want to sweep them, so their fans will STFU!
That’s my 2 cents.
The secondary of steelers is not that great either
let’s run D-williams and Heap wild and pass them to death.
+1
With dump off passes to Rice, of course!
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by Bruce Raffel on Dec 22, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
LET'S GO STEELERS
But it would be great to whoop your ass three times this season.
Who Dey!!!
Child Please
Not a bad season Bengals
for playing a 3rd place schedule Watch what happens when you play a 1st place one next year!
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by Bruce Raffel on Dec 23, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions





















