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Ravens Now Control Their Own Fate

Thanks to the pretty thrilling 35-31 victory by the Indianapolis Colts over the Jacksonville Jaguars last night, the Baltimore Ravens are now in the second Wild Card slot in the AFC. I cannot recall rooting so hard for the Colts to win since perhaps 1983 when they were still here in Baltimore! If you watched the game last night, it was non-stop offensive lead changing and not decided until the final minute before Peyton Manning had just earlier performed his magic on a game winning 65 yard TD pass to Reggie Wayne. That TD helped the Ravens as much as any they scored on their own this year.

Now the Ravens only need to win their last three games to ensure a post season berth and a solid chance for revenge in the first round with a matchup with either the Cincinnati Bengals or possibly even the New England Patriots, depending on what those two teams do in the final weeks of the regular season.

At the same time, if you look at all the contenders remaining schedule, it might even be a pretty decent possibility that Baltimore will still make the playoffs with a 9-7 record. With the Chicago Bears this week, followed by two road games at Pittsburgh and Oakland, the Ravens could finish 3-0 and almost definitely 2-1. A 10-6 record would definitely get us in at this point, but surprisingly, a 9-7 record may just be enough as well.

Look at the remaining schedule of the contenders:

Star-divide

Ravens (vs. Chicago, @ Pittsburgh, @ Oakland): Baltimore should go at least 2-1 or possibly 3-0, to finish either 10-6 or 9-7.

Dolphins (@ Tennessee, vs. Houston, vs. Pittsburgh): Miami will lose at the Titans this week and could win the last two or even split to finish at either 9-7 or 8-8).

Jets (vs. Atlanta, @ Indy, vs. Cincinnati): NY can go either 2-1 or 1-2, as I expect the Colts to play to win after a ten day rest, so they will finish either 9-7 or 8-8)

Steelers (vs. GB, vs. Baltimore, @ Miami): Pittsburgh can go anywhere from 3-0 to 0-3, although easily the toughest remaining schedule would make it more likely that 2-1 would be the most to expect, which leaves them at 8-8.

Jauguars (@ NE, @ Cleveland): Jacksonville should split these two to finish at 8-8.

Broncos (vs. Oakland, @ Philly, vs. KC): Expect the Broncos to lose at the Eagles, so they would finish 10-6 and if they tie the Ravens, we own the tie-breaker by virtue of our win over them.

The 8-8 teams will not have a chance to make the playoffs with so many teams still in the hunt. If none of the teams win out, then it would look like the Denver Broncos would make it as the first Wild card and the #5 seed in the AFC playoffs. Of course, if Baltimore wins out, we will either be the #5 or #6 seed. The Dolphins and Jets have a poorer conference record than the Ravens and if Baltimore wins at either Pittsburgh or Oakland, we will have the better conference record than either of them if we all finish 9-7. That would leave the Jaguars as our biggest competition but they play the New England Patriots in Foxboro in week 16, so hopefully that will knock them out of the picture.

Therefore,as you can now see, while we certainly can do away with all the tie breakers by just winning the remaining games, we would have the best shot of the contenders of still making the post season even if we finish 9-7. However, let's just start of the stretch by taking care of business this Sunday by beating the Bears at home and let the other teams continue to look up at us in the playoff race.

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Well anaysized Bruce

I will say this though, if the Bengals don’t get it together on the O, particularly in the passing game you might even still win the division. I think we will beat the Chiefs and if we don’t we don’t deserve the title and we will also possibly miss the playoffs altogether. This is not the same team we were in the first half. Every one here thinks it is the Oline or the WRs but I am beginning to think it is Carson Palmer. He is a mere shadow of his former self. If we played you this weekend we would get our asses handed to us. The Bengals are fading and better step it up or we just could be the embarrassment many have predicted us to be.

" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran

by JUNGLEJOHN on Dec 18, 2009 10:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not as pessimistic as you, John

But can see Cincy going 1-2 the rest of the way. That still gives you the North but might change the seeding and matchups. Our condolences to you and your team & city over your tragic loss.
-Bruce

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 18, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Had Palmer on my fantasy team this year. With the exception of the Bears game, he was a big disappointment.

"Alex Ovechkin makes Chad Johnson look like he's reading the paper."

by bigmac1124 on Dec 18, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here is how I see it

Steelers win out and go 9-7. Ravens lose to the bears by 30, Steelers by 90, and to the Raiders 2-0. Steelers go to the playoffs where Troy records a record 10 interceptions and the Steelers win SB XLIV 31-27 over the Saints.

The Hell that Tomlin & the Steelers have unleashed on me this December is indescribable.

by Johnny_S on Dec 18, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Shit son....

you gonna puff, puff, pass that stuff your smoking or hog it all yourself? Then again, being a Steelers fan, I would imagine you’d drool all over the blunt…

"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"

by UMBC Oriole fan on Dec 18, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You’re right. That 10 interception thing was a bit ridiculous.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 18, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, I was amazed you actually think

the Steelers are 60 points better than Chicago after you lost to them?

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 18, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Any Given Sunday

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 18, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol

If the Ravens and Steelers finish 9-7, Ravens fans really wont be as upset at you guys are. You guys would be 9-7 losing to some of the WORST teams in the league, while we would be 9-7 losing to all formidable opponents.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 18, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does it matter?

At the end of the season we will both be without a Lombardi Trophy.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 18, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

But, but so will either the Saints or Colts. Can’t take anything away from a great season. Ravens gave their all and came up short against some of the best in the league. Steelers sniffed a wet diaper losing to 3-9 teams.

SO yes it does matter. Ravens > Steelers this year without a doubt.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 18, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow so much wrong with this...where to start?

The Colts and Saints are both doing something under 10 teams in the NFL have done (Colts only 3 teams). Whether one of them wins it or neither, they both had tremendous seasons. The Ravens and Steelers are both going to end up somewhere around .500, hardly comparable to anything either of those teams have done this year.

The Steelers may have lost to some bad teams this year, but it doesn’t bother me (now). It was actually much needed to get away from the bad habits they have. And with Troy and Smith back next year, I like our chances of being a PO threat and SB contender.

Ravens > Steelers this year without a doubt.

Probably, the most incorrect thing you said in that entire comment. Translational properties in football are nice, but not accurate. The fact is, against our 3rd string QB in Baltimore you beat us by 3 points (and it took you overtime). Without a doubt? If you think your team is going to march into Pittsburgh and win “without a doubt” because you put up points against the crappy Lions you are more dense than initially perceived.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 18, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol

Then your STARTING QB cant beat KC, Oakland or the Browns. Imagine what we would have done to Ben had he played.

Its not just that we beat the Lions, is that we are beating the teams we are supposed to beat. You guys arent, and if we finish 9-7 with you guys also at 9-7, I think our record would be more impressive. All I am saying.

You are really basing which team is better off of that one game? Funny. So if we beat you with Ben in there for our only win of the season, would my statement be correct.?

<3 Johnny. Just relax, cant go 15-1 every year.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 18, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Again, you missed the whole translational property thing. Comparing what we did to one team and what you did to the same team really means nothing. In the direct game against us, you barely squeaked by. Barely.

How many wins do you have against teams you should not have beat? Zero. At least, we beat the Vikings.

You are really basing which team is better off of that one game?

Sorry, but I was under the impression that, in sports, the best way to compare two teams is head-to-head competition. Maybe that is why it is the #1 tie-breaker for playoffs?

I am relaxed, because I know if your under-achieving team slides in the back door of the playoffs they aren’t going anywhere. And it won’t justify the awful season they had, despite your arguments of the contrary. I do remember you taking a 3-4 week hiatus. Was that because your team was so good you couldn’t bear it?

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 18, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Like a true Steelers fan

You are the only ones who think the Steelers are better than the Ravens. The rest of the league doesn’t think so.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 19, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You honestly think you are loads better? You barely beat us at home against a back up QB who had thrown one pass in an NFL game. I don’t think the rest of the NFL sees you that much better than us.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 19, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And you lost to 4 of the worst teams in the league!!!

Have we lost to KC and the Browns? Dude, Ben cant even beat those teams, stop using that lame ass dennis dixon excuse.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 19, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Every team other than the 9-4 Packers

who beat us were in first place. What about the teams that beat the Steelers? Uhhh….what, we can’t hear you?

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 19, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

relax bruce

The steelers swept us in 1998, we have no room to talk right now.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 19, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How many teams have you beat that were in first place though? One? The Steelers beat 2. It is nice to beat everyone you are supposed to (teams not going to the playoffs) but when you lose every game you aren’t supposed to win (teams going to the playoffs) it doesn’t matter.

You aren’t a SB contender, and that is why I am looking forward to knocking you out of the playoffs.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 19, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How many teams with 8 or more losses have we lost to?

Now how many have you lost to?

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 19, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't lose anymore hair over Johnny boy.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 19, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You miss every point I am trying to make. By a mile.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 19, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get why you are bragging about sweeping us last year

This is THIS year. But I do have one question, Hows 3rd treating you?

When Chuck Norris dives into water he doesn't get wet, The water gets Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris has counted to infinity....... Twice.
When God said let there be light, Chuck Norris said," Say Please."
Chuck Norris can sneeze with his eyes open.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
Hey Steelers fans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOphGZZrE44&feature=related

by Baltimore Warrior on Dec 19, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just like Arians then

Missing every point trying to be made by Pitt.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 19, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Zing!

When Chuck Norris dives into water he doesn't get wet, The water gets Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris has counted to infinity....... Twice.
When God said let there be light, Chuck Norris said," Say Please."
Chuck Norris can sneeze with his eyes open.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
Hey Steelers fans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOphGZZrE44&feature=related

by Baltimore Warrior on Dec 19, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 19, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are like Batman and the Joker

Malor being Batman of course.

Actions speak louder than black people in a movie theater......

by Baltimore Warrior on Dec 19, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Again

Go ahead and knock us out of the playoffs, this season hasn’t shown me we are SB contenders either. However, the fact that you aren’t either makes life easier.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 19, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In your new profile pic, are you Jaba the Hut or the fruity one that looks like Mark Sanchez in the bottom right?

When Chuck Norris dives into water he doesn't get wet, The water gets Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris has counted to infinity....... Twice.
When God said let there be light, Chuck Norris said," Say Please."
Chuck Norris can sneeze with his eyes open.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
Hey Steelers fans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOphGZZrE44&feature=related

by Baltimore Warrior on Dec 19, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You won't even knock us out

of the playoffs, as we can still make it with a 9-7 record when you look at the schedule of the other contenders and see most of them finishing 8-8 and the ones finishing 9-7 will lose the tie breakers to us. So you can beat us and still watch us in the post season from your sofas!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 19, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You are making a lot of assumptions. And we will only be watching from our sofas one week longer than you.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 19, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

With Webb out for the season, you might be right.

Actions speak louder than black people in a movie theater......

by Baltimore Warrior on Dec 21, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How many time do I have to try to hammer this point through you. THAT DOESN’T MATTER, when comparing our teams.

How is that not getting through to you? When we played you head to head you barely beat us. HEAD TO HEAD. We played you. Steelers vs. Ravens. What we did against KC, Oak, Clev, whoever, has absolutely zero relation to how we match up against you. Do you get that now?

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 19, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No I don't get it now.

What I do get is that your team looks better with Dixon in there right now. At least he can just run it when Arians calls a bs play.

Let me ask you this. If you went 5-11 this year and two of your wins came against a team that went 13-3, does that mean you’re a better team? Nope.

Just keep trying to figure out how you have lost 5 straight games. It’s ok, season is almost over buddy.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 19, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it does. If you beat someone you are better than them. I don’t know how you argue against that. Even if you are a worse team record-wise. It just means what you have matches up favorably against them and not against the rest of the league.

I won’t even address the fact terribly dumb comment about us being better with Dixon in there.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 19, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good

Now come shovel and salt my driveway.

So a 2-14 team beats a 14-2 team who has the best record in the league and goes onto win the superbowl, that 2-14 team is the better team? So you are saying that KC is a better team than you this year, regardless of record. I really lol at that. Good save buddy.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 19, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

KC is better than us. Oakland is better than us. We can’t argue against that since we lost to them. Would we beat them if we played them again? Maybe, maybe not. We will never know. But since they did beat us in the one match up we have against them they get to say they are better.

2007. Pats are 18-0.Giants are 13-6. Giants beat the Pats. The Giants are better. No? Or are the Pats better because they have a better record?

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 19, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Think about this question closly young grasshoper.....

Actions speak louder than black people in a movie theater......

by Baltimore Warrior on Dec 19, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah we completely understand that the Steelers suck ass

When Chuck Norris dives into water he doesn't get wet, The water gets Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris has counted to infinity....... Twice.
When God said let there be light, Chuck Norris said," Say Please."
Chuck Norris can sneeze with his eyes open.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
Hey Steelers fans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOphGZZrE44&feature=related

by Baltimore Warrior on Dec 19, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lets try to leave the Steelers of this blog.

We never go off topic like this on Bruce’s posts.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 18, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Steelers are in your division

And a road block in your way to the playoffs. It is hardly off-topic.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 18, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just a speed bump

and it might not even matter if we lose to them, as we can still make the postseason even with a loss to them, due to us having most tie breakers over the other contenders.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 19, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jacksonville would have the tiebreaker over you if they won out. If you lose to us you don’t control your destiny.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 19, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Last year it was "when you lose to us"

Now it’s “if.”

I love it.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 19, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was not posting on this board last year. So it was nothing last year.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 19, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Won't happen Johnny

Jax plays NE next weekend in Foxboro, so they’ll finish 8-8 and so much for THAT tie breaker. Next question?

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 19, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, you see into the future? Impressive.

The patriots are not that impressive this year. They have an average to bad rush defense. Guess who happens to have a very good rushing attack? Jacksonville. Not unlikely that they can go into NE and win.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 19, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Which is why the Ravens

can go 9-7 and probably still make the playoffs, because Jax will only be 8-8 and we own the tie-breakers over everyone else as long as NE wins the AFC East.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 19, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d say people have been pretty realistic about the Raven’s play. They aren’t what we hoped for or expected out of the gate, but people have accepted the fact and root for the W. You could learn a lesson here.

by drj on Dec 18, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is sarcasm completely lost to you? Or do you honestly think I actually believe that the Steelers are going to double the NFL record for point spread in a game?

I know the Steelers are not going to defend their title this year and I accepted that after the Raiders loss. I still root for them to win, but I am realistic about their chances.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by Johnny_S on Dec 18, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Its beginging to look alot like christmasss

by ryantz on Dec 18, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

here we go......

The poor squeelers are gonna cry that they lost Troy so they lost the playoffs. It’s a shame about Henry and hopefully his loss won’t effect the Bungles chances.Terrible for a young man with so much promise to lose his life so needlessly. The Ravens are starting to look very good for the playoffs but we all know how fickle fortune can be. Tommy Z is doing well stepping in for Ed Reed,Kruger as I said before is a Beast and it’s starting to show.The Flaccman is back to spreading the football around again which gave him success early in the year and the 3 headed monster of Rice,Macgahee and Mclain is looking as strong as ever.Lookout AFC !! We;re on the rise..WHATS OUR NAME???? RAVENS!!!!!!

by purple and black attack on Dec 18, 2009 11:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ravens do NOT control destiny yet

It was pointed out in the Baltimore Sun that the Ravens can still go undefeated and not make the playoffs.

This could happen if the Broncos and Dolphins win out and the Patriots lose a game.

The Patriots would get in because of the H2H win.

by JBmoney on Dec 18, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Curious about the Dolphins...

If both the Ravens and Dolphins win out the first tie breaker would be conference record which would be the same for both teams (8-4). So how would Miami own the tie breaker after that? The next tie breaker (I believe) are common games played. In common games played I think there are only 2. The Colts and the Chargers. Miami is 0-2 against them while the Ravens are 1-1. Something seems off about that report.

by Dynamo38 on Dec 18, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As for common games between teams that are divisional games for one and not the other I don’t know how they play into it seeing as how the non divisional team played them only once. For example, Baltimore played New England once but Miami played them twice. Miami gets Pittsburgh on the last game of the season, but the Ravens played them twice.
SO CONFUSING!!!

by Dynamo38 on Dec 18, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well nevermind, I just got it....

The Pats and Broncos would get in under that scenario. Silly me.

by Dynamo38 on Dec 18, 2009 3:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bears game

MOVED TO 4:15 SUNDAY

by section117 on Dec 18, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That's good

The snow isn’t supposed to stop till around 2-3pm on Sunday. I heard anywhere from 8-24 inches hitting Baltimore.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 18, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch!

We only got 12" our first big snowfall here in WI. I hope the Bears get frozen. Hey is this gonna be a repeat of Jan 96 snow? wow, I feel for you guys there! I will be watching on my pc, from the comfy office chair I have. Hoping for a win Sunday!!! Don’t let me down double trouble!!!!!!!

Lonely Ravens fan in Cheese Head country (Watertown, WI)

by DorisF on Dec 18, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I am ready for the snow! I have my crap paper, milk, bread and most important BEER.

by section117 on Dec 18, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

AFC Wild Card is really weird this year and kind of pathetic

You seem to be discounting the Raiders: that’s a mistake. Anywho, I’d put a bet on the Dolphins and Broncos, thank you.

by Donald Driver on Dec 19, 2009 12:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I believe

if we beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh, we will get into the playoffs.

by Psychropod on Dec 19, 2009 1:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

JUST RUN THE BALL !!!
When the Ravens run more than 28 times they’re 7-1.

so why have we been passing all year without the personnel to do it???
this is the equivalent of the Colts benching Peyton Manning when he’s fit and playing Sorgi just to see how hard they can make life.

as a result I’d say is it difficult to assess how good/bad this team actually is.

If it played to its strengths all year we could be somewhere around 10-3 now.

by UK R4v3N on Dec 19, 2009 8:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

playoffs

ravens run table.miami 8-8 jes8-8 and denver loses 2 more .they will choke

by steelhater on Dec 19, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Even if we don't run the table, it's beginning to look

like we can still make it with a 9-7 record when you look at the other teams’ schedules and our tie-breakers over them.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 19, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I still think this team is capable of mixing it with anyone in the league if we play to our strengths – ie RUNNING THE FOOTBALL

THE COMBINED W/L RECORD OF THE TEAMS WE’VE LOST TO IS 52-17 !!!

We’ve lost to quality teams and kept quality QB’s on the field too long to control the tempo of the game – Manning, Brady, Palmer x2, Rodgers and Favre.

We’ve made life very hard for ourselves – un-necessarily so.

The offensive not defensive play-calling is to blame

by UK R4v3N on Dec 19, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agree

If we get into the post season, we will be a dangerous team that no one wants to see. NE and Cincy, our probable opponents, will not want to see us come there with revenge on our minds.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 19, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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