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Ravens Offense Remains Predictable

Despite the Baltimore Ravens recent success that has them right in the middle of the playoff race, their offense not only remains predictable, but it hs even been more so in the last five games than ever before. Look at this trend specifically about the team's reliance on RB Ray Rice during this period.

I noticed that it appeared that whenever Rice ran the ball or caught a pass for a long gain (19 yards or more), rather than bring in one of the other bigger running backs to give Ray a breather, then almost always gave the ball right back to him on the very next play, sometimes two or three plays in a row after that long gain. Not only was Rice obviously winded, but so was the opponents' defense, which seems like the perfect time to pile on with the fresher and heavier legs.

But no, look at these numbers:

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Since week 9 at Cleveland, Ray Rice has had 10 plays, either rushing or receiving, of 19 yards or more. One of those resulted in a TD, so that one is out of the equation, leaving nine plays of that length. Seven of those nine times, the very next play was a run by Rice, only two of them gaining over three yards and those were both only 5 yard runs. Once, they gave the ball right back to Rice two straight times, for gains of five, then -1 yards. Even more questionable, twice they actually gave the ball three more times in a row to Rice right after those long gains! Never did he gain more than 3 yards on a play. Furthermore, in this past week's Detroit Lions game, Rice ran 52 yards on the opening drive deep into the Red Zone. Inexplicably, the Ravens ran Rice for two yards, then again for no gain, and then Flacco passed to him for a six yard gain but Rice fumbled the ball and Detroit recovered to end that scoring threat. Think that his fatigue from being the target three straight times after a 52 yard run had anything to do with not being able to hold onto the ball?

Predictability should have very little to do with just one single player on a football team. Perhaps the QB can be marked with trends based on play calling, but the RB position on the Ravens has been one of strength based on numbers and the three-headed monster that had the team in the AFC Championship Game last year and all teams afraid of our running game. While Ray Rice has been a major reason fro our success this season, we have actually had more success the less he runs the ball and the more the carries are spread around to Willis McGahee and LeRon McClain.

Prior to the Lions game, I said the Ravens needed to run the ball at least 40 times and I wanted to see Rice with a maximum of 20 carries, McGahee with 12 and McClain with eight. I came pretty close as Ray had 13, Willis 12 and LeRon six. The remaining nine carries were spread around to others to total the 40 I had hoped for. Forty rushes and 23 passes is more like the Ravens team of last year, when we controlled the ball and the time clock. This should be a lesson to the team as its future recipe for success, as the next opponent, the Chicago Bears, are ranked 24th in the NFL against the run.

However, the predictability, especially giving the ball right back to Ray Rice after long gains, needs to stop and they need to bring in fresh legs when they have the other team winded and down in the dumps. The stats don't lie in this case, and as good as Rice has been this year, those plays after the big gains have not added to his reputation and will only add unnecessarily to the wear and tear on his smaller body.

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the suggs package is a sign of a desperate offense. Lets just hope Cam learned something from last week and realizes that style of football is what got us to the AFCC game. If he doesnt, then this season is a lost cause. Smith does not even agree with the idea and feels the offense should stay as it is. http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/?p=2486. L

by ryantz on Dec 15, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

Desperate? Probably. Effective? Rarely? But fun to watch? Occasionally.

by StuckInUtah on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Agree with Ryantz here

We do not want to use plays that are somewhat ineffective, yet “fun to watch.” I am not here to have fun, I am here to see us win, and maybe get a little fun out of a victory. But we really do not need the Suggs Package right now. It is not THAT effective. We put Joe at RB or WR, which is just stupid cause we know he wont do anything there (dont let Oakland game fool ya) then have Troy who is not a RB or a WR, so he cannot just take shots like Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams do.

Troy Smith said it best

"It hasn’t come up at all because of the emergence of our offense," Smith said. "The list goes on and on of the guys that are rotating in there well, so we didn’t have to do any of that stuff. It’s a gimmick, and all but one team [the Miami Dolphins] makes it work. Obviously we don’t need that."

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Well honestly is more of a joke than anything. But those are some valid points.

by StuckInUtah on Dec 15, 2009 1:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

it WAS more of a joke…..(sorry)

by StuckInUtah on Dec 15, 2009 1:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I would like to see it in a big game though. Even though it is a gimmick play and maybe an act of “desperation” it can’t hurt to throw Troy out there when teams have no footage from this year of us using the Suggs Package. I would love to see this used against Pittsburgh in 2 weeks.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 15, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Not too sure why you all are debating this

on this post, which is almost the opposite topic.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 15, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

When have any of us ever followed what the post reads? You should feel lucky it hasn’t turned into a beer discussion, which it most likely will once raven gives his 2 cents. Poor guy will be broke after that.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 15, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty happy right now, I found a closer beer store that sells the $10.99 Bush Light 18 packs. It’s next to the Goodwill Store too. Which is totally cool.

by raven on Dec 16, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

$10.99 for an 18 pack?

You’d be lucky to find a 12 pack on sale somewhere out here. I guess that goes to show you how much this state (Mormon church) taxes their booze. God I got to get back out East.

by StuckInUtah on Dec 16, 2009 2:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

$15 thirty packs of Natural Light here

150 Nattys for $60 is the best deal though.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 16, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

While Ray Rice has been a major reason fro our success this season, we have actually had more success the less he runs the ball and the more the carries are spread around to Willis McGahee and LeRon McClain.

If only the coaches understood this.

What I really do not get about our coaches is that we use all of our PRO BOWL RB’s in games that do not mean too much. We used it in Cleveland games, the Pitt game (which was not as bad since Dixon was in there) and against Detroit. Did we see all 3 RBs against Cinci, Indy, NE? Hell no.

It really just hit me that we have 3 PRO BOWL ball carriers, and we have failed to use all 3 in 75% of our games.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 15, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

Yup

Can anyone name me one team in the history of the league that has 3 pro bowl RB’s on their roster at the same time? USE THEM!

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 16, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

If only the coaches understood this...

I have repeatedly said this since New England, where is the three-headed monster? We haven’t utilized our trio of running backs effectively or efficiently for most of the entire season. That’s just stupid coaching. However, I guess we bloggers are much smarter than those old, rascally coaches, eh?! Go Ravens!

by Smiley4660 on Dec 15, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

Bloggers are much smarter than the coaches. We could all submit our plays in real time to Cam and he could relay them. We’d be 10-3 and Kelly Washington would have 10 TD’s.

by raven on Dec 16, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Not according to Kevin Byrne, remember.

He told us all to basically get a life when we call in and criticize the coaches. He thinks that you HAVE to have played in the league or coached on a high level. We do not know nothing and should concentrate on our lives rather than what this team is doing. They obviously do everything correct.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 16, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

MR. Bryne’s is too busy eyeing up Smithers to know what’s good for the team. AND, you don’t have to play to be a good coach. Some of the best players are the worst coaches. I am ready to step into the Cleveland job at a moments notice. Shawn Rodgers will get 5 carries a game. Cribbs will be the permanent QB.

by raven on Dec 16, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

RUN the ball

OK so I never post , but at this time felt the need to add my two cents…Here’s what I think.

Utilize all three backs. – be the running team they were last year. It was effective. Beat defenses up and tire them out. It can only make it easier for them to pass.

I think they try to pass too much which is to their detriment BECAUSE…
-The offensive isn’t explosive enough.
-If they go 3 and out, they keep putting their defense out there often.
-Other teams then win the time of possession battle, which in many cases translates to a Ravens LOSS

If the Ravens agree to play within themselves and play smart, I think they can have success easily. Use the backs that you have Baltimore!

oh, and not bringing Lorenzo Neal back?…c’mon…

by sophic on Dec 15, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Yea, Neal would have been great to have here still

But the coaches didn’t think it was necessary and by the way Rice is running, it looks as if LeRon has almost made us forget about Neal at FB.

But would still love to have him.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 15, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome sophic

Agree the key to our success is the ground game. Especially since we can’t rely anymore on the defense to help us win the game. Even though they’ve played well lately, they are just not the turnover machine they were in the past, so we need to control the clock, put points on the board and keep the other team’s offenses off the field.

Thanks again and keep commenting.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 16, 2009 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Welcome!! You need to post more often. We enjoy the company.

by raven on Dec 16, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Was Bruce welcoming me and thanking me for the comments? Isn’t he nice.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 16, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You bastard..changing ID’s again? We just don’t know you anymore.

by raven on Dec 16, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

run all three guys

I’ve noticed this not just with the Ravens but with other teams too. Makes no sense to me. Give the guy a little rest after a long play, even though his adrenalin is likely pumping. It’ll still be pumping after a play on the sidelines, watching the O-line carve holes for McClain or McGahee, both of whom can bring it. On a related note, seems like they aren’t using McGahee outside enough too—they seem to always run him between the tackles. But if the guy is most dangerous in open space, he’s got some nifty moves. And it seems like he could get outside even more easily if they give it to him after the opposing is winded after chasing down Ray or getting pushed around by LaRon.

Not to mention running more effectively helps Flacco and the receivers. This team should win every game if they can get 300 rushing yards. Or even 250, for that matter! And with this line and these RBs, certainly more than 200 should be possible against almost every defense, IMHO.

by ravensfan57 on Dec 15, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

Most of the time

Mcgahee bounces latterally and is tackled, at least from what Ive see lately

by sam_ravens on Dec 15, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

And if it's close to the goal

He seems to fumble…

"Talk’s cheap. Let’s go play." - Unitas

by D-Fensive on Dec 15, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Been happening a little too much, but he does have 9 TD’s on the year. Can’t complain too much about that.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 15, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t brag about 11 fumbles on the goal either…..

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 16, 2009 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

McGahee does have 9 TD's

but he had something like seven of them in the first four games and then fell off the face of the playbook for some silly reason, which to me is no coincidence that we went 3-6 in our last nine before Sunday.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 16, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

McGahee has been yelled at to NOT go side to side..yet he does and he killed us in GB. There was a hole right in front of him which tells me he made up his mind to jump outside before he touched the ball. Real cute.

by raven on Dec 16, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Riding the RR-27

The big thing here is the ability to keep the defense tired and on the field.
If you switch Ray out with a fresh back you give the defense a chance to switch players on the field.
Keeping Ray in makes the defense work harder to watch for the run on either side (especially with slants or screens)

by Timpo on Dec 16, 2009 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

Which would be great if we did that

but we almost ALWAYS give it right back to him. If he ripped off another huge gain, that would be genius. But after seeing the stats above, you thunk we might try something else for a change!? Dolp!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Dec 16, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree with Burce here. Remember the 2nd Steelers game last year when McGahee could barely get off the turf doubled over in pain and Cam gives him the next play on 2nd and long where he gets stuffed. That was a huge play and I was angry that a fresh Rice and McClaine watched from the sidelines.

It makes no sense to run Rice 3 in a row with the 2 other backs we have. We can hustle a RB out there in no time. I know Rice is young but I’d rather run McClaine if it meant 3 runs in a row later in the game. I’ll give them that in the 1st and 2nd qts.

by raven on Dec 16, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

I am so ready to tailgate after wimping out last Sunday. I have sat in miserable freezing rain games before. Funny how it always rains when the Lions come to town.

I owe the poor guys who bought my tickets. I think they lasted 2 quarters before pruning up.

by raven on Dec 16, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

Same here

This was the first home game I missed in 4 years because I found out it was raining and I had finals to study for. I cannot tell you the last time I watched a home game on TV. Had to go to Buffalo WIld Wings to do so cause the Redskins screw everything up here on TV, but the Stella was cheap and cold.

Sunday is officially my start of winter break, as my last final is Saturday. I will try my best Sunday morning shove as much hot dogs, burgers and miller lite into me as humanly possible. If I do not fall down at least once on the Raven Walk, then I was not successful in my drinking. Should be a blast.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 16, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Malor- When exams end and everyone heads home for the break do you stick around to see what chickies are lingering on campus or do you sneak into Comcast Center and sniff Gary Williams underwear?

by raven on Dec 16, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

I don’t go for leftovers. Sniffing Gary’s underwear would be a dream come true. I will make an attempt next Tuesday after the bball game vs William and Mary.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 16, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

If you

fall down you should just start screaming STELLLLLLLA like Elaine did in Seinfeld.
And if you are giong to fall at least fall down tghe steps like raven does thats some funny shit.

by section117 on Dec 16, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

raven falls down the escalator going up.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 16, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

total fear of escalators. i’m affraid they’ll grab the velcro strap on my shoe and alligator twist my leg off.

i remember as a kid it was a huge deal to run up a down coming escalator. it was like the cops would lock you up for 10 years if you were caught. like they would if you touched a moving car. ever do that?

by raven on Dec 16, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

Owings Mills Mall

When I was in 7th grade, my friend and I ran up the escalator that was going down. As soon as we got to the top, there were two security guards there and they yelled at us. I remember one of the guys was about 350 pounds and he had his hand on his little night stick like he was going to beat us with it. I can still hear the heavy breathing he did because he must have run all the way from the cookie stand 20 feet away.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 16, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Escalator laws man. Mess with them and get beat down. Just try it.

by raven on Dec 16, 2009 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

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