look i’d be in serious pain if I were a cleveland native myself, so I won’t patronize you. But what I always ask is this. If a cleveland fan tells me we stole their team I ask them,

“If the only way for you to get your cleveland browns back in 1998 was to accept a relocating Titans team, wouldn’t you do it?”

yes, you would. So don’t blame us for letting Art Modell move here. It’s only logic.

Cool. There for military reasons? Or just for the hot women and kimchee?

I bet they still think that Modell owns the team here as well !!

They actually could have had a good team this year IF ..
1) they kept Quinn as the Starter
2) didn’t give Brayland Edwards away
3) Stallworth hadn’t killed someone in the DWI
4) they didn’t give up on Winslow

The expansion rules hurt, but not as much as this. The more of this you read the more you wonder…

WHY?

I blame the Orioles situation on the Marlins and Devil Rays. Damn them. We could have had Boggs towards the end of his career and Jeff Conine earlier.

even if i concede the logic in all of the points you just made, you can’t fire a guy after six months for two debateable decisions. it takes YEARS for a GM’s impact on a team to become visible. by this rationale, you can just hire a new guy next year and fire him again when the browns start off poorly and his drafts picks don’t look good. You’ll never improve your team that way.

But I don’t even agree with what you said above. Free Agents aren’t the cure to losing, just ask Dan Snyder (oh wait, he probably thinks free agents are still the cure to losing). Look at the good teams in the league—they let GMs go to work, they patiently wait, and they develop talent from within.

Secondly, he couldn’t have possible gotten any more for Edwards than he did. Edwards was in an epic slump and there was doubt everywhere (except perhaps cleveland) as to whether or not he could replicate his 2007 success. Moreover, the Browns bargaining position was particularly weak seeing as they were clearly scrapping their 2009 season and just wanted to sell low on Edwards. I almost think the Jets could have gotten him for less.

and i really think this had more to do with the “listen to your fans” protest with the whole not-going-to-their seats thing more than anything. The fans wanted to get the owner’s attention, and they sure as hell got it. They threatened his lifeblood and he needed to throw them a bone. So he dumped Kokinis because he was easier to fire than Mangini. In that regard, his decision is rational, because missing the GM for the rest of the year won’t hugely impact them.

But due to this they will be behind the 8-ball going into the offseason because they’ll need to find a good GM (difficult) and he will have precious little time to put together his scouts, send them around the country, evaluate players, and prepare for the draft. It will be very very difficult for whoever comes in next.

you’ve been awful when you’re healthy too buddy. your guys don’t play good defense, fact. change the scheme, make things easier on them.

teams that give autonomy to GMs and let them do their own work without interference generally see improvement with time. Teams that interfere in GMs’ efforts to evaluate and develop talent generally regress. Even if you’re not happy with the way your Phil Savage experiment turned out, you need to go back to the drawing board, choose a good talent evaluator and organizational manager, and let him work. It’s probably going to take a few years, but it’s the only way. The Browns have a lot of work to do.

It’s not that he wasn’t allowed to, it’s that he didn’t have the balls to.

And I wouldnt be worried about Kokinis having enough cash. We will have to pay the thief.