Beware of the Browns
While the Baltimore Ravens thoroughly demolished the Cleveland Browns 34-3 back in week three, this is not the same Ravens team that started the season off at 3-0 and was ranked #1 by ESPN in their weekly Power Rankings. Now having lost four of our past five games, which Ravens team shows up seems to be as much a mystery to the fans as it is to the players and coaches.
This game is in Cleveland and even more importantly, on Monday Night Football. The Ravens are 4-7 on MNF, 1-5 on the road in those games and have lost in their last five appearances on that prime time stage. For whatever reasons, we do not play well in front of a national television audience and while we are listed as much as an eleven point favorite over the struggling Browns, this could very well be a "trap" game for Baltimore.
The Browns are starting Brady Quinn at QB, who deserves a longer look than he's been given and is in a key position, contract and salary cap-wise in his tenure with the team. They need to determine which QB will be their future, if that QB is even on the team right now, by giving Quinn the rest of the season to show what he's got. Head Coach Eric Mangini is also on the hot seat, and could be gone at the end of the season, if not before, depending on the team's progress. That makes the Browns a very dangerous team, one with nothing left to lose. Like a wounded animal backed into a corner, they will do whatever they can to win this game and give the nation a positive showing from one of its worst, if not the worst team in the league.
This is the most important game of Cleveland's season. No matter what they've done so far, no matter what they do the rest of the season, if they can beat the Baltimore Ravens, the city with the former, hated owner that "stole" their team, then this is their "Super Bowl" for 2009. They will gloat over our team and fans, especially here on Baltimore Beatdown, and make our frustrating season even more miserable than it has been so far.
I don't know about you, but that premise scares me. The Ravens have not played anywhere near the expectations we had since we put such a beat down on the Browns earlier this season that we were all talking about the Super Bowl after week three! Since then, the losses and frustrations have piled up higher than the barnyard at Pimlico Racecourse. That will never happen, you say, despite our poor showing last week along with the other disappointments that have exposed some obvious shortcomings in key positions on the field. Well, this is the NFL and a lot of unexpected things have happened all season, starting with how in the world can the Ravens be sitting in third place in the AFC North with a 4-4 reccrd after eight games? How in the world can we expect to turn it around with games coming up with the Indianapolois Colts, Pittsburgh Steelers and then once again on the road on Monday Night Football at the Green Bay Packers, where there has never been a night game in December in Packer history!?
Very simply, this team better not be looking ahead to the Colts. Focus on the task at hand and get well quick against a team that we should beat just as bad as we did the first time. Get that win out of the way and then prepare for the team that has always had their way with us and should come here undefeated for us to make a statement on, one way or the other. But for now, beware of the Browns.
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oh by the way, 49ers over da’ Bears, as Frank Gore and even Michael Crabtrree have good games! Hopefully, Matt Forte will get in the end zone for my fantasy team though.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Nov 12, 2009 12:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I lol'd at the title of this
35-10 Ravens. Joe is going to light them up for 3 touchdowns and 275 yards. Rice will score on a 40 yard run and Willis will pound one in from the 3 yard line after another big run by Rice. Their lone td will come from a Cribbs kickoff return.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 12, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We choke
Okay..my last negative post of the week. I promise.
Why I won’t cry when Ray and Ed retire- I enjoy the heck out of these Hall of Famers BUT how much do they contribute to key loses is a mystery. You’d think these 2 could lead their team to some big wins on prime time but the numbers aren’t there. 4-7 on the big stage. 1-5 on the road on the big stage. That is embarrassing.
0-3 vs Pitt and 0-2 vs. Cincy. Maybe they aren’t the leaders that can pull a team through adversity. I don’t dispute Rays Herculian efforts that brought us the Ring but the past few years has been a whole lot of preaching and a whole lot of losing to good comeptition. Maybe the money spent onnthese 2 would be better spent on a complete unit. Our balance is out of whack as Ed and Ray wind down their careers. How far do we take them? Do we let them run to empty and give them a symbolic Ripken send off or do we take the NE approach and use their salaries to load up allowing them to play for SB contenders next year? Just asking…
by raven on Nov 12, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wont be surprised
if the Ravens cough this game up 20-17. I dont even have to say why, any Ravens fan can see that we can possibly lose this game, and if the Ravens come out “slow” again we will be the laughing stock of the league. “Slow” are Ray Rices words not mine people.
by ShaneOmacDaddy on Nov 12, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
crap…i can’t help it-
Cleveland 27 Ravens 17
by raven on Nov 12, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hate you
I really do. This is the biggest crock of bullshit I have seen so far. So messed up man.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 12, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
I mean I expect Ravens to win, they can win, they should win, but my jaw wont be hitting the floor if the final score is 20-17 or 27-17 like you said. Fans need to realize the team that we have right now, Cribbs could rip us a new one all night while Flacco & company could stink it up like last game. The defense is what it is, enough said, Browns could pull the upset and no one should be shocked if they do…this is like “upset alert” for the whole league this week lol.
by ShaneOmacDaddy on Nov 12, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not buying it.
Even if the Ravens aren’t the same team they were back in week 3 (which I also disagree with), the Browns are as bad as they come. Stop overreacting, you guys are becoming unbearable.
by mlb32001 on Nov 14, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if it would be an upset. Everyone including the national media are disappointed in the Ravens. When they flash that 1-5 MNF road record on the screen I’ll pull a blanket over my head. Mighty Raven road warriors. “Ain’t no one can stay with us for 4 quarters”…uh sorry Ray. Bottom line.
To top it off the Brady story will be in full force. Brady knows he has to do amazingly well to save his city. I expect to see a very agressive air it out approach by the Browns. If we lose, I want us to get blown out so we can make changes faster and not complain about the refs or 2 plays all week. Let’s get to the bottom of this mess as fast as possible. No sense drawing it out.
I have a feeling my Lions and Bears tickets are already worth 1/2 price at best. A loss to the Browns and I’ll donate them to the Hickey School. – don’t hold me to that. i’m a cheap SOB.
by raven on Nov 12, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thank God we play the Colts and Pitt.. At least we have 3 Raven type SB’s to look forward to. The Colts and Pitt. see us as minor speed bumps to better things.
by raven on Nov 12, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
raven and shane are preaching some idiotic crap right now
Please tell me how CLEVELANDDDDDDDD is going to beat us rather than you spitting stupid crap about how Ray talks to much and Reed misses tackles.
If you honestly think we are going to lose to Cleveland, I want you to come on here right now and say we are going to 4-12. Please do it assholes.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 12, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And once we beat them, BADLY
You both will be coming back here “Oh god I love Oher, Ray made some insane tackles, Reed’s two picks were great and he looks pro bowl form.”
Choose a god damn side already. After Denver, you sounded like Superbowl talk. After Cinci, you think the Bucs, Lions, Rams and Browns are all better than we are.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 12, 2009 4:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brian I never said they were better
I said “upset alert”, I also said I think the Ravens will and should win but just wouldn’t be surprised if the Browns beat us by a slim margin. I think I am in the majority on this one brotha. Think of some of the comments you texted me last Sunday man…you were right with me on this. If Ravens lose on MNF at Cleveland…you will not be surprised, but you or I wont be surprised if we win 38-0. Thats all I said in my comments, We are very suspect right now in all phases of our game. We beat the Browns 34-3, Browns went to OT with Bengals…2 minutes left in OT for that matter…Bengals worked us both games. Im just saying there is a possibility if we come out playing like we did last week.
by ShaneOmacDaddy on Nov 12, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. No way dude..I ride the wave. I’m a FAN. I feel the crest and the valleys and I’m bringing the team with me.
I like Ray and Ed. They’re great/were great. No problems here. But, if I had a more complete group of no names, I’m going there. I learned my Ripken lesson.
You seem very confident we’ll beat the Browns. Does 1-10 on 3rd downs against the Bengles make you so sure? Does Cam and his disappearing Kelly Washington appeal to you?
Does Mason Mason Mason strike a nerve with you? Does Flacco’s 3 sacks in a row make you want to jump and cheere? Taking the ball out of Rice’s hands when we get momentum from…well…Rice.
DB’s hanging on for dear life? Literally. Ray slipping to the turf on pass defence turn you on? Cleveland is 1 Cribbs return from having us abandoning the run and throwing deep to Mason. We get down by 7 and you may as well turn to PBS and watch Ken Burns documentary on Monkey Balls.
by raven on Nov 12, 2009 4:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well here is my perspective....
the season is a wash. There isn’t a way in hell that we are winning the division without the Bengals getting completely derailed via an injury to Palmer and/or Benson gets arrested…along with the Steelers team plane crashing into the Andes Mountai. We would have to fall ass backward into the playoffs in some magical fashion as the tie breakers just don’t look like they would fall our way.
I say we actually change things up creatively…bust out all the players on the bench, activate everyone. Put in Troy Smith for the Browns game…hear me out. We know that Flacco is the franchise QB, but since the rest of our season doesn’t really matter realistically, lets see exactly what we have and what we can shop around with in the off season. Make it known right freaking now, middle of the season, that NO ONE’S job is safe. I would rather see a cheerleader in our secondary than the clowns we got now. Get Kruger in there to see if he can help get pressure on the QB. As it stands right now, we aren’t losing games on kick and punt coverage so the excuse that he is a liability on Special Teams is pretty lame right now considering what the D is doing.
I mean really, on this path, at best we will have a winning season that doesn’t make it to the post season. Let’s have fun with this shit. Find out exactly what we got on the bench, mix up the personnel, and actually do something different than what we have done in the last 5 games…cause that sure as hell ain’t working for shit.
I am not saying that the Ravens should just roll over and admit the season is done. But right now, we can use the games we got left to really examine our players, try to make serious adjustments, and find out exactly how many pieces we are missing.
"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"
by UMBC Oriole fan on Nov 12, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
By the way...
are we not having an “Ask a Brown’s fan” thing? I really like doing that stuff, and I would think, even with the bad blood between the teams, we could at least try….or pretend to be civil.
"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"
by UMBC Oriole fan on Nov 12, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, we just can't get along w/ them
and both of us agreed it might be better to not do this for the upcoming game. Perhaps we’ll cool down in the future but there is too much unnecessary bad blood right now.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Nov 12, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m for that. I honestly feel Kruger can make a difference but is being sat on for some crazy reason. You want some fun? Put Kruger in Price’s spot and JJ in Suggs spot and move Suggs to the interior where he can be the run defender he is. Move Gooden to Scetion 132 Row 12 and put Ellerbe and Jameel in at LB on 2nd, 3rd and longs. Give Ray some rest.
by raven on Nov 13, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 14, 2009 2:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pryce has already been demoted on the depth chart
and Dwan Edwards is the #1 DE now.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Nov 14, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The good news is...
….the Ravens are 8-0 against teams they are favored over who have a losing record. Basically, it means we beat the teams we’re supposed to beat, but just can’t do the same thing to the good teams.
Sounds pretty much like an 8-8 team, eh?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Nov 12, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think my browser is broken
There’s this funny headline that says “Beware of the Browns”, clearly a glitch.
I now have a blog: http://justanotherbaltimoresportsblog.blogspot.com/
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Nov 12, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Man I really hate the bengals
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Nov 12, 2009 10:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
shut them down this weekend. lets get the afc north back ta normal.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 13, 2009 3:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm down with that!
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Nov 13, 2009 6:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be to concerned
you’ll still beat Green Bay, Chicago, and Detroit. easy W’s
and with that, I have successfully managed to trash-talk division rivals on the Beatdown
From the only TRUE North division
by thewild_viking_twins on Nov 12, 2009 11:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
rep the purple
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 13, 2009 3:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i bet we have a great game against them
we’ll feel great about the team again like oh boy were back on track except not. Fool me once shame on me Ravens, fook me twice, nice try. Ill be watching every game with the suspicion that we can totally lose it, even this one.
by sam_ravens on Nov 13, 2009 3:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
we’’ll win monday night. cleveland is the gift that keeps on giving. over the past 10 years, if you replace cleveland with any other team we might of never made the playoffs. they have almost always been 2 automatic wins. wehn cicny stunk we had 4 gimmes. i can’t think of any other division with worse bottom 2 teams for so many years than these two.
5-6 in three weeks.
by raven on Nov 13, 2009 4:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Playoffs
Its not out of the imagination to make the playoffs, its just unlikely.
We won’t win the division, and one wild card goes to either Pit or the Bengals. But there is one other wild card slot out there.
AFC West
We have tiebreakers on Broncos and Diego, so we just have to match those guys in wins.
AFC
Texans and Jags. I don’t think the Jags are any better then a 50/50 team. Houston could be a problem, I don’t know what our tiebreakers would be. They have to play Indy and NE still.
AFC East
Jets? Dolphins? I’ll be surprised if they break 9-7.
So what we need is 10 wins. Lets make Indy and Pit losses. Browns, Oakland, Detroit, and home against Bears wins. So that gets us to 8-6. So we really just need to win Pithome and Green Bay on the road. Difficult, yes. Impossible, no. I give us a 15-20% chance of making the playoffs.
by davver on Nov 13, 2009 10:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well there’s something. Here we are begging for a WC spot- needing help again.
by raven on Nov 13, 2009 10:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think most of us agree
that the Ravens’ #1 problem right now is inconsistency. We could blow the Browns away tonight, but we also could very well be embarrassed royally on primetime TV. Flip a coin — it can go either way.
Although I agree with UMBC Oriole fan, that mixing up the roster a little could motivate the starters to get their s**t together, I also think it is still premature to do anything this drastic. I feel this way because we are still well in wildcard contention. Yes, the division title is probably lost now, but we’re not out of the playoffs yet. If the Ravens keep losing to teams we’re supposed to beat, then yes. But don’t forget that 3 out of the 4 losses were against very good teams. We’ve got a tough schedule, and that should count for something.
by Psychropod on Nov 16, 2009 4:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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