I'm over it but I'm not over it
Excuse me if I rehash what has already been written but this is therapy for me. Another huge loss against an elite team. This game smelled of our attempts against 2007 NE, 2008 Steelers, any Colts game and The Detroit Game. From head scratching play calling to stupid penalties we played like a Raven in an elite game.
I don't have a problem with the imbalanced attack of run vs. pass because Flacco had receivers open most of the day and his dunks to Rice took us to the doorstep of a win. Overall, the point is to get rushing yards and Cam's play calling allowed Rice to have over 100. It's the yards not the carries that count. Would Cam be better if Rice ran for 100 on 25 carries? The fact that Flacco was airing it out allowed Rice to have running room. Also, in Cams defense, we needed to score fast simply because the Pats were eating up the clock and our possessions were extremely valuable. Our D simply couldn't stop Brady- again. If anything, Cam should have established the run early before Brady took control of the game and exposed our secondary and LB's.
Clayton made a mistake and I can live with that. Very unfortunate. Ngata rearranged Brady's face mask and Suggs dove at a QB's knees. Those penalties will be called on every team. It's sissy rules but they are explained to every team over and over again. What I can't live with is the play of our LB's in pass defence and short yardage situations. Where is Ray Lewis against these elite teams. He didn't jam the line on runs or get back in pass defense. Most of his game was played on an island arrving after the 1st down or after the catch. I'm not sure he even realized where the first down marker was when the Pats dove for the first down near the goal line and Ray got up an ran like he stopped them. Sorry man, not even close. Jared Johnson seemed to be the only player to be able to wrangle up free running backs around the line. I think it is time to get Kruger in the games to help the LB's and ends tackle. We need surer hands and quicker bodies in there. I am calling out Ray because we are getting picked apart by playoff teams on his front porch.
Cam made some very costly decisions that cost us field position or downs. The first instance was a trip into NE territory around the 35. At that point, I felt it was important to establish the run and at least solidify field goal position before attacking the end zone. Unfortunately, it looks like Cam has discovered the Billick lob to the end zone corner. This is totally unecessary turning Flacco into a 50/50 QB. The jump ball is a chickens way out. We aren't operating with 6'4" receivers. Anyway, this trip into NE territory actually went backwards and out of FG position and turned into a punt. Cam's long shots at the end zone on 1st really screwed up the downs and made plays 2 and 3 obvious pass downs. This killed Rice and McGahee in the passing game. Cam did this a few times even though we were moving the ball in the short game.
On the last series of the game, Rice was unstoppable and the short passes had the Pats in a panic. So, on first down, Cam hasd Joe lob it to Clayton in the end zone corner for a very difficult catch- especially with his height. Why Cam?! We were chewing up the field with RB screens and short passes. That pass was the key to the loss. We were then stuck in obvious passing downs and a down shorter. Those long shots to the end zone when we have working short range weapons are totally uncalled for. IF we did score on that jump ball to Clayton, that would have left over a minute twenty seconds on the clock. Brady would have marched right down the field for the winning FG. The call was dumb on all fronts!
Flacco doesn't escape criticism as he threw a few balls off his back foot hanging them up to dry. He also barely escaped 2-3 interceptions when he unloaded balls into traffic. He shorted at least 2 open deep balls by not stepping into the passes and threw behind receivers another 2-3 times. He wasn't sharp but got better as the game went on. I don't think he was comfortable with the play calling. The major plus in all of this is the receivers were all getting open. There could have been many more recepions. The 0-line did give them time. It was a tight pocket but workable.
Suggs got a sack but he needs to be more of a force throughout the game. He is being paid way too much to not be a dominant end. He disappears for long lengths of time in the 4 man rush. We really didn't get great pressure on Brady and our QB tackling still stinks. His obvious dive at Brady's knees was just idiotic.
McGahee and Rice could have won this game with 5 yard dunks all day. Our short game was great. It was the formula for a win and will be against Pitt. but Cam has to stop throwing away down #1 with jump balls. I thought the Billick days were over. Very sad to see that damn 50/50 ball return! I though the DB's did okay considering our LB's provided no help in either the pass rush or pass defense. The TD to Moss was luck. Reed took a dumb gamble considering the Pats have trouble in the red zone and a straight up D could have held them to a FG. Reed and Ray better step up their games as they are the ones becoming a liability to this team.
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Would Cam be better if Rice ran for 100 on 25 carries?
Yeah, as a matter of fact he would, for a couple of reasons. A pass from Joe for 25 yards might take 2-3 seconds off the clock at most. 5 runs to get those same 25 yards could take several minutes off the clock – which, yesterday would have been several minutes BallerinaTom and the boys wouldn’t have been on the field.
The running game is important, even if we want (as it sometimes appears Cam does) to resurrect Air Coryell. The running game keeps the opposing defense from lining up to blitz on every play if all you’re doing is passing. Yesterday, we were, literally, running all over them. 100+ yards on 11 carries. We (Cam) simply abandoned one of our best tools yesterday and we paid the price for it. There is no way McClain should not have been the heavy back for those short yardage plays. I know we need to appease McGahee to keep him “happy”, but I can’t be the only one who remembers those games last year where McClain ran play after bruising play, 5 or so yards at a time from the 40 to the endzone. This is the other reason for a potent running attack. It wears down the defense. if you run at them early and often, you might not get a pile of yards, but by the 4th quarter, those guys are gonna be having trouble standing, much less raising their arms to knockdown passes or lifting their legs to chase after speedy little WRs.
We have simply GOT to run more. And use McClain!
by D-Fensive on Oct 5, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And don't forget, Rice got
50 of those yards on one long run. Otherwise, he was mediocre as was McGahee. Why did Cam run Rice right away after his 50 yard run? Why didn’t Willis come in or McClain to give Ray a breather? Where was LeRon all day?
Totally agree with the Clayton lob, as I kept saying take your time and don’t leave too much on the clock for Brady. But for some reason, all they did was pass, pass, pass.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 5, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Otherwise, [Ray Rice] was mediocre…
Are you being facetious? Taking away his 50-yard run (which is ridiculous, by the way), he still had ten carries for 53 yards, with an average in excess of 5 yards per carry. Rice was also second on the team with five catches for 49 yards. I’ll take numbers like that any day of the week (yes, and twice on Sundays).
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by Ampallang on Oct 5, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rice’s average of 5+ yards per carry would be at or above league average. Of course, if you can discount his 50-yard run, you also have to go the other way and say that if he averaged (yesterday at least) one 50-yard run every 11 carries, then it seems logical that if he’d carried another 11 times, he’d have broken off another long one… right? LOL
But seriously, if a 5-yard per carry average is now mediocre, that doesn’t say a lot for the NFL, since only about a dozen active Running Backs (Rice included) are above the mediocre mark.
by D-Fensive on Oct 5, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 yards a carry might be a nice average, but
if you only get the rock 10 times in a game, 55 yards won’t make too much of a difference. If he average 5 yards a carry on 20-25 carries, then I’m impressed as it probably means a win.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 5, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea but
Being mediocre and not getting enough opportunities are totally different situations. Ray did not get enough chances but he was very effective when he did and was in no way “mediocre.”
by DT711 on Oct 6, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I'm saying is that 50 yards
on the 10 carries is a medicore game total, regardless of his average, without that huge run. He should have gotten many more carries, especially at the ends of the half and game.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 6, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with that
You just originally said Rice was mediocre, which was what I responded to.
And don’t forget, Rice got
50 of those yards on one long run. Otherwise, he was mediocre
by DT711 on Oct 6, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How was he mediocre without that 50 yard run? Take it away and he is still averaging 5 yards a carry. Not so mediocre in my mind. The reason it may look mediocre is because of the mediocre play calling by Cam Cameron. Yes, 50 yards does not look so great, but when it comes from only 10 carries, not too shabby. 10 more plus that 50 yard run, Rice is looking at 150-175 and we are looking at victory.
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by Mr MaLoR on Oct 6, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t read Bruce’s response above. My bad.
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by Mr MaLoR on Oct 6, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Response to D-Fense- The clock wasn’t the issue at all. The more time we run off the clock the less time we have to score. The way the Pats were sticking it to our D we needed as many possessions as possible. Maybe if we ran more we don’t have the final drive. Maybe if we really burn the clock we lose 19-14. All the same. My issue is that this is OLD NEWS. We can’t beat the good teams because our stars don’t rise against the best teams. Oh, they are great at smackin’ around Cleveland but show them an elite team and they come off the field whining like babies every time. It’s always the refs. ALWAYS the refs. Shut up and beat a top team and earn respect.
by raven on Oct 5, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We may have to agree to disagree on this one. I see it from completely the opposite side. You’re right that the clock was not an issue in the sense that you mean it. At no time in this game were we down by enough points for panic to set in. The final score was 27-21. That’s 4 (TD) scores for the Pats and 3 for us, not exactly “sticking it to our D” imho. So we should not have been in a panic situation, throwing the ball on every down as if we had a 40 point spread to make up. So, from that point, no the clock was no issue.
BUT – exactly the opposite of what you said is true too. The more time we take off the clock (with the run), the less that Flacco has to hurry the ball out because he (and everyone else) knows he’s going to be blitzed on every down. I think the final tally of Time of Possession was about 35 minutes for them and 25 for us. If we run and take even those 5 minutes away from the Pats to an even 30-30, Flacco isn’t so pressured, he completes more than 50% and maybe the Pats are one score less and – at worst – we go into overtime or win by a point.
by D-Fensive on Oct 6, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LeRon McClain
Where was he yesterday, raven? That is what made the most upset is that LeRon did not get the ball in his hands once. 3rd and 1 and we QB sneak it? 4th and 1 and we run up the middle with Willis? When the hell have we had plays like this and LeRon was not the go to guy? He is the best 1-2 yard down back in the NFL, period. He needs to see the ball more, to wear down the defense.
Yes, it is about the yards and not the carries, but of the 20 incompletions Joe had, 8-10 of those could have been turned into carries, which could have turned into better control of the clock, which could have turned into maybe another 100 yards the way Rice was running all day. We got to the AFCC last year by running, running, running and running. I do love seeing us pass, but I feel like Cam is just trying to show people up at this point that we can pass.
On our first scoring drive, before the TD to Mason (which was just freaking incredible) we are 1st and goal. Pass. 2nd and goal, pass. Then all of a sudden we are 20 yards away and Joe connects to Mason on a play that will be good for a TD 1 out of 8 tries. McGahee had 6 TD’s in the redzone in the first 3 weeks. Why are we not giving it to him to get 8 stupid yards? Yes we scored, but we cannot keep living in that mentality. Our passing game has improved, but it is almost because we are throwing it 40 times a game. Of course we will see yards and completions off that.
Clock management is the way this team wins. We have been the best at it for so many years now, and if we allow Tom Brady to stay on the field for 35 minutes because our offense is getting 20 incompletions in the passing game, that is not good. Running the ball, that is what clock management is about. 16 times is not going to cut it.
I said a few weeks ago, and many people agreed with me that when we run the ball, it is not always about gaining yards. It is about eating clock, eating clock, and eating clock. Just like you eat beer brats at the tailgates.
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by Mr MaLoR on Oct 5, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
John Clayton about us giving up on the run
Though the Patriots’ rushing numbers weren’t great Sunday, the fact that they ran the ball 30 times took pressure off Tom Brady," Clayton noted. "If the Patriots tried to take some pressure off a future Hall of Fame quarterback by running the ball more, the Ravens might consider it advisable to do the same for a talented second-year quarterback
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by Mr MaLoR on Oct 5, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
easy to say
when the team that ran the ball more was protecting a lead while the team that passed more was playing from behind. So I think Clayton is ignoring the context of those numbers—we didn’t lose because we ran less, we ran less because we were losing.
Raven was right—those passing plays kept drives alive, even if the completion percentage wasn’t pretty.
I would have liked to have seen some I-Formation yesterday to put LeRon to work more, at least as a lead blocker, but we were getting the ball to Rice and McGahee in space with the passing game, which was definitely effective.
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by jackmca on Oct 5, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we passed so much because we were behind
we weren’t getting killed and there always was time to get back in it with a long drive, wearing down the Pats defense, which we did not do. I’m not against passing more than running, but at that ratio? Nope.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 5, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No the Ravens were at most 10 points down and at many times less. With only a 10 point deficit the Ravens could have run a lot more then they did. It wasn’t that they needed to pass every play as much as Cameron seemed to want to pass every play.
by archon095 on Oct 5, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
we passed more and despite a lot of success, that’s exactly what the Pats and Belichcik wanted us to do because they were definitely afraid that we would shove it down their throats, which we could have done if we wanted to.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 6, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then how come we didn’t want to? That is what I do not get. You have a pro bowl back not getting the ball in his hands once the whole game and then not even the lead blocker on a 3rd and 1 QB sneak and a 4th and 1 Willis run. I feel like cam does not like to use plays that the defenses know are coming. So what if they know Leron is coming! No one can stop him on a 3rd and 1 anyway!
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by Mr MaLoR on Oct 6, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Belichick simply
outcoached Cam and John.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 6, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we out coached ourselves. When you don’t want to allow the other team’s offense to stay on the field long, you run the ball to do so with your offense. You have a higher risk of going 3 and out passing the ball than you do running the ball IMO. And even if you do got 3 and out with 2 runs and a pass, at least you eat up clock.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Oct 6, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And even if we don’t run with McClain on that 4th and 1, why isn’t he in as a lead blocker? The gap McGahee tried to go through, and the hole the play was designed to go through, was occupied by defenders that could have been cleared out by a lead blocker.
by klunker18 on Oct 5, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great points raven
I was screaming in Foxboro (with nary a purple jersey around me) at 2 plays
The lob to Clayton — exactly the rationale you outlined
The lack of McClain in there — up to that point over the past dozen games, I bet McClain is 90% successful on 3rd or 4th down and short.
Sometimes play callers just try to over think things
by Merlin11 on Oct 5, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
if they can stop LeRon twice trying to get one yard, then they deserve to win.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 5, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How was Billick able to call the Bears game along with calling our offensive plays? He really is a mastermind.
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by Mr MaLoR on Oct 5, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
raven, do you mind if I use this post in show and tell tomorrow? The use of paragraphs. Punctuation and even sentence structure is something to be proud of. Were you actually sober while writing this?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Oct 5, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was pleasantly surprised as well.
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by Ampallang on Oct 5, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr MaLoR
I will give you permission since raven is still standing on the ledge!
He is a very discruntled fan when they lose.
by section117 on Oct 5, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im here steaming. i’ll never learn not to trust this team.
by raven on Oct 5, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For now, unfortunately
you are correct.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 6, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To make matters worse, it’s being reported that Ayanbadejo has a torn quad and will probably miss the rest of the season… Let’s all hope Gaither is okay aswell
by ravsagain on Oct 5, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ravens re-sign Prescott Burgess
For a change WE raided someone else’s Practice Squad!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 6, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa Slow Down There
All I have to say is that if Clayton caught that ball, and we scored on one of the next few plays and won the game 28-27, this conversation would turn from all of these complaints like :
We need to run the ball more
The defense needs to step up
Joe Flacco didnt play very well
Cam Cameron needs to rethink his play calling :
Think about it : they would change to things more like:
Cam Cameron is a genius!
Joe Flacco has solidified himself as one of the NFL’s elite QB’s!
Same old defense, they come up big when we need them to!
But instead of that we have problems everywhere apparently because of one honest mistake by a receiver trying to do too much.
Everyone who is criticizing the Ravens right now, slow down. The truth is we didn’t play very well, we had a lot of dumb penalties, and we still were one play away from beating one of the elite teams in the league who is sure to be around in January. The Ravens are still a great team and this season looks very bright for them.
by CameronI on Oct 5, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not dogging Cam. He almost scored 28 agaisnt NE in NE only having the ball for 25 minutes. That’s pretty damn good. I’m calling our D who can’t slow down Pitt, Indy, NE to earn respect. I don’t even get mad at the refs anymore. Who cares. From here on out I’ll expect to lose to the big three like my team does. Those big scary NE jerseys make me tremble. Oh those horrible yellow and black uniforms make my knees shake. Get the hell over it. Team leaders? Joe Flacco in his second year has more balls than our 2 D “leaders”. He brought us to the brink of a huge victory despite his back peddeling counterparts on D.
by raven on Oct 5, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woulda, coulda shoulda
The simple fact is, once again, we didn’t do it. That’s why all the negative complaining is legit, although I tend to think by the end of the season, we will “do it” more often than not.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 6, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cameron sucks
SportsMumboJumbo.com
See 2007 Dolphins. Enough said.
by EricFeld on Oct 5, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your ridiculous, unsubstantiated comments don’t really speak to the integrity of the site you keep plugging. It seems to me that you pick some random thread here and repeat something that somebody else said, except in two sentences and with no thought or supporting evidence. If your website is anything like you, it’s right up there with ESPN.
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by Ampallang on Oct 5, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1
Bad commentary, poor link. Sorry, that don’t fly here on The Beatdown. If you want to post a link, add some quality wording beforehand.
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 6, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Below is the prediction I posted on the NE site saturday-
I am still curious about our DB’s. They looked better against the garbage Browns but that waxing by San Diego is still fresh in my memory. I thought the Browns should have come out gunning deep balls to test us but, true to Browns form, scouting is not budgeted.
Brady should go deep a few time very early to Moss and then backtrack with 7-10 yarders to Welker and Maroney. He’ll need to set up the run because while Fred Smith is good, he’s not turning corners on anyone especially a fast line like the Ravens have.
I’m canceling out your run game, Maroney in the passing game and pinning your chances directly on Welker’s health and Moss’s game beyond 20 yards. Brady needs to go 25-38 to smell victory. I see an honest 80 total yards from your ground game and 250 in the air. Of course, we might be caught sleeping on Galloway.
As far as the Ravens go keep an eye on Kelly Washington. I think Ray Rice will have a career day.
by raven on Oct 5, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well said
what are you writing for this week on the Bengals site?
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 6, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He will be so upset that he will write how to beat us rather than why we will do to beat them. Go at ours LBs, double mason, the same old.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Oct 6, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upon Further Review
Jumpy Joe Flacco threw fadeaways off his back foot during the last 2 drives of the first half. He seemed to THINk the pressure was worse than it was. He had tons of time but for some reason started chucking and ducking. cam getting away from Rice and the short game was a huge mistake.
For some strange reason we air mailed 3 straight balls deep after driving the length of the field with short to mid passes. We then threw it all away and started throwing jump balls to covered receivers. Our receivers were doing fine with Joe being patient and getting open BEFORE the throw. The INT to Boden was ridiculous. Why risk a timing pattern in the flats when we were killing them with thr run and rice. Did Clayton run the wrong route? Interestingly, Boden’s first and right foot was out of bounds on the pick. Another break for NE.
This kills me to say this and I’ve held it in this year but here goes…Ray was a non factor and showing major signs of decline. He did 0 the enitre first half. He actually hurt us on NE’s first TD drive. He missed 2 tackles and got turned around on another. He didn’t support the line. He was lost in pass coverage. His guesses on downs were wrong. I like the guy but our LB play is weak.
Suggs should not be in pass coverage! He needs to get after the QB. I think our big three on D have let things go to their heads or they are more hype than help at this point. Welker turned a 3 yard catch into a none yard gain after juking Ed Reed twice to get there.
Rice was not utilized nearly enough. McGahee may as well have been benched. Cam started drives nicely but turned into an idiot when he sniffed the endzone.
Why wasn’t the hit on Joe that sent Gaither to the hospital a late hit. Watch it again if you can.
The catch by NE that was reviewed and upheld was actually a drop. The receiver pulled the ball up from his knees to his chest as he lay on the ground. It was obvious. Why bother with the reveiws when they never get it right. Is there an old man in there with bad eyesight? Horrendous calls.
Flacco could have put the Pats away early and often but threw at least 6 really bad balls. I think he is in love with his arm because he sure doesn’t use his feet to plant and throw. The O-line did a GREAT job but Joe rushed many throws or left the pocket forno reason.
What a waist of an easily winnable game. These guys need to believe in themselves a little more and Cam needs to believe in patience and his players. He, for some reason, deceided the only way we can beat Brady is with mini Hail Marys. Chicken shit again folks. We do stupid things against good teams. That tells me that deep down the coaches fear the opponent. I’m so tired of this scatter brained play calling when it counts.
by raven on Oct 6, 2009 1:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This kills me to say this and I’ve held it in this year but here goes…Ray was a non factor and showing major signs of decline. He did 0 the enitre first half. He actually hurt us on NE’s first TD drive. He missed 2 tackles and got turned around on another. He didn’t support the line. He was lost in pass coverage. His guesses on downs were wrong. I like the guy but our LB play is weak.
It was not his best game and he did get pushed off the ball some, but he still had 14 tackles and led our defense. I would not say he’s showing major signs of decline. I’ve seen Ray have worse games and he bounces back. I will not let one average game (for Ray, many guys would kill for 14 tackles) influence my opinion of Ray.
Rice was not utilized nearly enough. McGahee may as well have been benched. Cam started drives nicely but turned into an idiot when he sniffed the endzone.
Agree. McClain needed to carry the ball in short yardage situations also.
Do you know that Willis had the same number of carries as Tom Brady? Not Cool.
The catch by NE that was reviewed and upheld was actually a drop. The receiver pulled the ball up from his knees to his chest as he lay on the ground. It was obvious. Why bother with the reveiws when they never get it right. Is there an old man in there with bad eyesight? Horrendous calls.
Totally agree. During the review I said, “It’s not a catch but they won’t over turn it.” Sure enough NE got the favorable review.
We also got jobbed on the spot of the fake FG. No way that was a first down and you think they’d get the spot right during the review, but nope. We had terrible spots all day and that makes me angrier then the roughing the passer calls. Those were legit calls, it is just terrible rules that protect QB’s (some more then others) way too much. The spots were just unacceptable.
Flacco could have put the Pats away early and often but threw at least 6 really bad balls. I think he is in love with his arm because he sure doesn’t use his feet to plant and throw. The O-line did a GREAT job but Joe rushed many throws or left the pocket forno reason.
Agree. He looks good but has so much room to improve. Once he starts setting his feet better his accuracy should improve, and its not bad now. He is going to be a good one.
What a waist of an easily winnable game. These guys need to believe in themselves a little more and Cam needs to believe in patience and his players. He, for some reason, deceided the only way we can beat Brady is with mini Hail Marys. Chicken shit again folks. We do stupid things against good teams. That tells me that deep down the coaches fear the opponent. I’m so tired of this scatter brained play calling when it counts.
It would have been a huge win but its not a bad loss. We are still in great shape to make a run at a 1st rd bye and a game or two in Baltimore for the playoffs. It stings now, but we will be a much better team for it.
Look at it this way…. We made mistakes, had poor officiating, and still should have beaten NE in Foxboro. We are a good team now, and when we correct our mistakes we will be hard to beat.
by DT711 on Oct 6, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All great points
Did you notice how few times Joe went over the middle for those 15-20 yard bullets and seemed to decline to the last year of 5-8 yard stop patterns on the sidelines. It made for long drives with more chances are turnovers and failures. The back foot thing from Joe was written about me all through the Open Thread on Sunday. He looked a litle “Boller-like.” By the way, did you see the score and Boller’s stats from the Rams loss to the 49ers? Ouch!
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by Bruce Raffel on Oct 6, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had the 49's Def in one league
41 points they scored for me. Anytime you can play a fantasy D going against Boller you do it.
by DT711 on Oct 6, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m cool now…ray can stay for the rest of the season : )
by raven on Oct 6, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs












