Ravens @ Patriots: Prediction & 'Open Thread'
Keep it here all day long as the Baltimore Ravens fight for even more respect as they go into New England to face the Patriots in what should be a statement game for both teams. Use this story to post your thoughts and comments as the Ravens-Patriots game progresses to what we Baltimore Beatdown fans hope to be another victory to keep us on the unbeaten path and atop the AFC North standings at 4-0.
While the Ravens are picked to lose this game by the Las Vegas Oddsmakers and a loss will still leave them at least tied for first place int he AFC North, a win would let the entire league know that this team is poised at a run to the Super Bowl while a loss could easily be chalked up to just a tough game in enemy territory. On the other side, if the Patriots win, it will solidify their return to prominence and signify their franchise QB, Tom Brady, is back to 2007 form. However, a Patriots loss and many will say that New England is not up there with the contenders as they have now lost to both the New York Jets and Baltimore Ravens.
Which will it be today, as one of the above story lines has to play out one way or the other? While a majority of the local Baltimore and New England media are picking the Pats to defend their home turf, the national guys are pretty well split evenly on both. However, their opinions really don't matter to anyone here on Baltimore Beatdown, as only our opinions are the ones that truly count, and are usually dead on!
(Read more on "Ravens @ Patriots: Prediction & Open Thread" after the 'Jump')
The Patriots are always playing the game off the field, refusing to let us know who is out and who is playing until the last minutes before gametime. On the field the Ravens will try to establish their running game against what might be a less than 100% front seven of New England. When the ball is in the air, the Ravens Joe Flacco does not seem to have a favorite receiver, although Derrick Mason is still his go-to guy. However, he has thrown to seven or eight receivers each game, so New England just can't double down on any one, which gives a huge advantage to Baltimore if they can give Flacco the time he needs to find the open guy. The Ravens offensive line has opened huge holes for their three RB's and protected Joe real well so far and the team is especially thrilled with the play of rookie RT Michael Oher.
Defensively, the Ravens need to keep the ball in front of them, bending but not breaking, which has been a successful philosophy so far for them. Keeping Randy Moss from making the big play and not letting TE Ben Watson exploit their matchups in the secondary will limit the long scores. If Wes Welker is on the field, he will create problems for our DBs in the open field with his slashing and crossing patterns. Look for our LB's to make him pay early for his transgressions across the middle. Pressure on Tom Brady is a must but if we constantly blitz him, he'll find a way to make us pay. We will need to find a way to make him hurry his throws while only rushing four guys on most plays and blitz when he leasts expect s it. Ray Lewis will be ready for the chess match and he usually makes the right moves.
I see the Patriots as a softer team than they have been in past years. The Jets beat them on the scoreboard and the field and the Ravens play that same style of physical, intimidating play. They will need to do that in addition to executing their gameplan and limit the turnovers while at the same time disrupting the timing of the Patriots offensive gameplan. If they can get Brady to throw off his back foot, get him out of his comfort zone and continue their trend of shutting down the running game, then their chances of winning increase dramatically.
The turnovers will probably decide this game as much as anything else does. Limiting the chances to score by making mistakes while creating those same opportunities have been the heart and soul of the Ravens success. However, this is not the Ravens offense of years past. They can now move the ball down the field in time consuming drives or throw it up for their wideouts to grab and run into the end zone, scenes not seen up until this year. Teams have not been able to stop our scoring pace, nor match it stride for stride. The Patriots have the offense to do it but supposedly so did the San Diego Chargers. The defense decides this game and while both offenses are solid, the Ravens have the edge in the run game and that combination should make the difference. The ability to ram the ball down the opponents' throat then throw over the top makes it tough to stack the box to stop the run and dare Flacco to throw. If teams do that, they will be burned early and often.
While the Ravens secondary was burned themselves in the Chargers game, that was a very unique set of receivers and while the Patriots receivers are very good, they just don't present the physical matchups man for man that the Chargers did. I fully expect Tom Brady to get his yards and stats, but it is in the Red Zone that I expect the Ravens to continue to defend and prevail on both sides of the ball. I just see our defense as the better squad and our offense can definitely compete with theirs. That combination of an offense that can put points on the board against anyone and a defense that will always keep us in the game gives me the confidence to think that if we can go into San Diego, where they'd won 20 of 24 homes games before we beat them, why can't we do the same in a place that has had the NFL's best home record since 2000?
I like the Ravens to play a tough, physical game for four quarters that the Patriots cannot match and Baltimore comes out of Gillette Stadium with new found respect from the naysayers both in the national media but perhaps even more so here at home and prevail to the disappointment of a lot of New England fans.
Ravens 24-20
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WHAT'S OUR NAME!!!!
RAVENS!!!!
"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"
by UMBC Oriole fan on Oct 4, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions
media split
All the Patriot writers pick the Patriots while only one Baltimore Sun writer picks the Ravens – How about getting Mark Viviano off the air when he is at the games.
No wonder the Sunpapers are not doing well – who wants to read a “home town” local writer that does not get with the program.
Obviously, we all want honesty and no bias in the news we read and watch – but this is sports and while a little controversy is healthy they could write they respect the Patriots but they don’t have to pick them.
Here is a question to burn time before the game...
Do you guys think there is a correlation between shitty uniforms and the success of a team? Now here me out… If you look at the Broncos, they never seemed to get over the Superbowl hump until they got rid of this god awful orange uniforms. For exhibit B, the Tampa Bay never did anything with those disgusting white and peach uniforms with the gay pirate on the side of their helmet. Obviously, there are many more factors than just uniforms but I am hard pressed to think of a team that had Superbowl success while wearing really ugly uniforms. Or maybe I have hit the booze too much already for this game….
"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"
by UMBC Oriole fan on Oct 4, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
It's hard to play like a champion when you know you look like an ass.
I’d think that would be the case…
HERE WE GO!
Lets do it today boys! Big time game, but we got the big time players. If you are not pumped up for this one, than check your god damn pulse. Everyone who has stuck with us from the start are the only people we got today. F*** anyone out there who is hopping on the wagon and trying to give us credit when they are one loss away from bombing us for being your brother’s Billick’s Ravens.
Rush Brady, rush Brady, RUSH BRADY! Moss and Welker might have the advantage, but we got good enough speed to keep up with them. Keep a body on the WR, stop the run, and make Brady throw it when he does not want to.
27-21 Ravens. Good day Beatdown.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Game time
from all the so called experts, i’ve seen kind of a split on who they think will win.
Patriots can’t run the ball anymore, welker is playing but how healthy is he? to bad i have to watch the game at work, i’d love to be having a beer while watching this beatdown….lets go RAVENS!!
Keep an eye oon NFL RedZone
It’s so cool to have the availability of every game just a click away during the stoppages of action of the Ravens game.
aka 'Rexx'
My wonderful wife just brought me
a sandwich and a beer and said “Tom Brady sucks!” Isn’t she grand?
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Chris Carr - buh bye
get rid of him, no more returning kicks. Admit he is a bust and be done w/ him.
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FUCK!!!
Joe Flacco's eyebrows have been charged with several penalties this season, most for acting as an "ineligible receiver downfield".
come on Ravens....
Bills fan rooting for you guys.
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 4, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks guy
expect you to win in Miami today. Got TO on my fantasy team, but he’s done nothing for me so far.
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done nothing for us in the real world either :-)
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 4, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Tom was'nt looking too sharp on that "drive" :-)
Joe Flacco's eyebrows have been charged with several penalties this season, most for acting as an "ineligible receiver downfield".
And so the D
once again saves the ass of Special Teams.
"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"
New here and good stop defense!
Wow carr deciding to run that was a bad move. Good job defense. I have been reading this blog for awhile and decided to jump into the fray. My girlfriend and I have our baltimore purple on up here in York PA.
Whooo!
Popped the first down cherry!!!!
"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"
He's getting good protection so far
and waits like a pro to find the open guy.
O-line opening holes!
aka 'Rexx'
Good catch Mason!
1st down lets get our running game going.
that penalty jump started the O
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 4, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
or not
lol
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 4, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
great play mason!
What a catch but please be ok.
Third and goal from the 20 yard line...
..and we score on New England!? Who ARE these guys!?
aka 'Rexx'
Nice catch.
Joe Flacco's eyebrows have been charged with several penalties this season, most for acting as an "ineligible receiver downfield".
Derrick Mason
is a f-ing gamer! Still down. Hopefully he just got the wind out of him… still he landed flat on his back. Brutal landing. He is still holding the ball.
"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"
Derrick Mason is a BAMF!
Joe Flacco's eyebrows have been charged with several penalties this season, most for acting as an "ineligible receiver downfield".
What's up fellas, Joe from Mile High Report here:
Please beat the Patriots down today. I live in Mass and would love for Pats fans to shut the hell up for at least a week. Thanks and good luck to you all!!!!
TAKE IT!!!
Make them kick it!
I dare them to go. Stop them……and if they don’t make the 1st, then that’s a beatdown!
aka 'Rexx'
Cincy just popped ball loose
from Browns’ James Harrison and ran it 70+ yards for TD. Now 14-0 Bengals, Browns suck soo bad!
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Don't think the ball ever crossed the plane, but who's counting?
Hi folks! Baseball season refugee here. Looks like a gunslinging kind of day, huh? I hope we’ve got more bullets!
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
Yeah, I just picked him up
inb one of my fantasy league (Beatdown’s).
Hear the fans going “HEAAAPPPP!”
aka 'Rexx'
Chris Carr is more concerned about
holding onto the ball tan getting a good runback. See how he’s constantly adjusting the ball during the runback because now he’s afraid of dropping it again.
aka 'Rexx'
HEAP!!!
Joe Flacco's eyebrows have been charged with several penalties this season, most for acting as an "ineligible receiver downfield".
T. Good is injured
but where is Jameel McClain? Kruger is an outside LB, so he’s not here.
aka 'Rexx'
Kerry Collins is only gonna take a team so far.
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 4, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll take em less further
which is why he’s not in.
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 4, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Man reminds me of Kevin Everett.....
hope Gaither’s okay.
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 4, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
NE's getting a big push
from their o-line, which is not good. Moss w2as way open on a long throw that should have been picked!
aka 'Rexx'
Wow
Joe Flacco's eyebrows have been charged with several penalties this season, most for acting as an "ineligible receiver downfield".
lets just bubble wrap the quaterbacks
Teams should start having players trip the attacking defenders so they nudge the qbs knee and draw penalties.
oh please
eff the pats
"In every adversity there lies the seed of an equivalent advantage. In every defeat is a lesson showing you how to win the victory next time." (Robert Collier)
by norcaliangelsfan on Oct 4, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions
It would be 7-3 if the refs wern'y pices od shit!
Joe Flacco's eyebrows have been charged with several penalties this season, most for acting as an "ineligible receiver downfield".
Sorry about the spelling
I need to stop drinking. :-)
Joe Flacco's eyebrows have been charged with several penalties this season, most for acting as an "ineligible receiver downfield".
The Pats game plan is well done
A lot of stunts and fakes and delays on both screen passes and runs. Pretty impressive.
Notice Webb now returning kicks?
aka 'Rexx'
Kelly Washington is a little..... Inconsistent
If alcohol didn't exist the Irish would conquer the world.
Washington definitely held on to that!
Refs better make the right call. Wonder what Tagliabue is telllng the guy under the hood this time?
aka 'Rexx'
A left tackle for a saftey..... That seems fair.
If alcohol didn't exist the Irish would conquer the world.
Horrible, horrible call and throw!
WTF was that call after such a good one the previous play!
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Cause we suck at running it.
If alcohol didn't exist the Irish would conquer the world.
by Zachary Beard on Oct 4, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't get game today
……but by reading all of your posts, maybe it’s best I don’t watch.
Lonely Ravens fan in Cheese Head country (Watertown, WI)
Yyyyyyeah
If alcohol didn't exist the Irish would conquer the world.
by Zachary Beard on Oct 4, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
What was the play?
Was Clayton supposed to stop or was Flacco supposed to go deeper?
I think his first foot was on the line.
Gaither apparent head injury. status not known although he’s going to hospital. All extremities moving though.
aka 'Rexx'
My guess 3-6 weeks.
If alcohol didn't exist the Irish would conquer the world.
by Zachary Beard on Oct 4, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Nightmare ending of half.
Worst case scenerio happened. Now we go into the half on a downer, knowing we should be closer. Stupid TO, Harbs. Call it right after play or not at all, now that there’s only 30 seconds left.
Don’t lose it John!
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