BYE Week Observations
Obviously, this loss really stung. Before we get too down, let's remember who has the dominate, young quarterback, the dominate, young running back and the dominate, young offensive line. The future is very bright. Yesterday proved that the Ravens have many issues but also showed that they have no quit in them. Right now, the Vikings are a better team. They came out firing on both sides of the ball and really deserved the win.
Offensively, the fact that the Viking's veterans dominated our young players early in the game shows immaturity. I don't believe that the Vikings "let up" or "let us back in it." Sure, they dominated early, but late in the game, the Ravens kicked the door in and blasted away with guns blazing. Rookie tackle Michael Oher dominated Jared Allen in the second half, and Joe Flacco and Ray Rice went off. The Vikings had no answer. The slow start hurt and shows immaturity. They will get better and need to start having success early. The Vikings had great field position during the entire first half, and Favre was given too many shots at the Ravens defense on short fields. 14-3 is hard to overcome on the road, but you do need to give the offense credit. They never quit and game the team a real chance to win.
Defensively, it's easy to panic. Statistically, there were no positives. Favre threw at will, and Peterson was making big plays. As hard as this is to believe right now, I actually believe that the Raven's defensive core is still very good. There are several players that are struggling and being picked on. The schemes are also very bad at times. However... when the Ravens can get a team to actually play against our entire defense instead of picking on one guy, the defense is still solid. Ultimately, that is what the Ravens need to do. They need to find ways/schemes to protect the guys who are struggling and lean on the guys that are solid. That is why our red zone defense is still fairly successful. It naturally covers one of our biggest weaknesses. I understand fundamental football and know that offenses are going to force one-on-one match-ups with our worst players. That's football, but there is not a defense in this league that is perfect at every position. That is where scheme comes in. It's all about playing to your strengths, and it seems to me that the Ravens aren't doing that. The secondary wasn't the Raven's strength last season either, but they made it work somehow. Greg Mattison needs to step up.
Positives:
- Ray Rice is amazing! Everyone here knows that I love Willis McGahee, but Willis needs to take the back seat from now on. Rice is turning out to be one of the best backs in the NFL. I'm most impressed with the way that he ran between the tackles. His first touchdown was beautiful. When you watch it the first time, it almost looks like he ran through the hole untouched since he didn't really slow down, but if you watch closer, Rice actually gave E.J. Henderson a nasty stiff arm and ran through an arm tackle by Madieu Williams. He is running with power and vision now. Obviously, he has always been a great receiving threat, but after scoring two rushing touchdowns yesterday against a defense that hasn't allow one all season, Rice proved that he is a complete running back and one of the Raven's best weapons going forward.
- Joe Flacco is a stud and truly unflappable. How many times is Flacco going to set career highs this season? We are witnessing the emergence of a great quarterback. It's almost too good to be true, and I've been waiting for Flacco to come crashing down to earth. His performance yesterday put all of those fears to rest. He is the real deal. Under pressure and hit all game, Flacco stood in the pocket and made every throw. He was injured and still led a comeback from seventeen points down. I know this is sounding like a homer-ish rant, but I can't help it. I think the guy deserves more credit than he's being given. Flacco really carried the team against the Vikings.
- Michael Oher had a good game. He struggled early in the game, and the crowd noise seemed to give him trouble. Later in the game, he was a force and effectively shut out one of the league's best pass rushers. On the first touchdown drive, he sealed off Allen on the long pass to Heap, and on the touchdown run by Rice, he blew Allen off the ball and paved the way for Rice. Obviously, it wasn't a perfect performance, and the false starts come to mind. However, he flashed greatness in a tough game against an elite pass rusher.
- Ray Lewis still has it. The Ravens defense was miserable, but it had nothing to do with the play of Ray Lewis. People, including myself, have criticized him recently, but Ray showed why he is still one of the great linebackers in the league. He stone-walled Peterson up the middle all game. All of Peterson's long runs were containment issues for the Ravens. Ray Lewis stayed home all game. On the goal line, Ray stopped Peterson twice and forced the team with the best running back in the league to score through the air. He did his job and played with an almost mystical anticipation all game.
Negatives:
- The coverages in the secondary were terrible and terribly executed. I could go on and on about this because I really believe that this is the biggest problem with the Ravens defense. On the touchdown to Berrian, Washington was playing about eight yards off Berrian, and Carr was playing up on Harvin in the slot. How can you play off the receiver in the end zone? On that play, Harvin crossed and ran to Washington, and Favre threw the easiest touchdown of his career to Berrian on the inside slant. Meanwhile, Washington and Carr were tripping over each other's feet. On the slant to Sidney Rice that was taken into the red-zone, Reed actually bumped into Washington who was trying to cover Rice. That miscue gave Rice about four steps on Washington. Seriously? Our guys are actually bumping into each other now? These are not bad players either. Washington was at least decent last year, and we're talking about ED REED here. There are serious problems with the coverages that the Ravens are running. Something needs to change.
- I hate to say it, but we may actually be missing Jim Leonard. I would usually flame someone for saying that, but let me explain. I saw Landry getting burned on several key plays all game. After Ray Lewis stopped Peterson twice on the goal line, the Vikings went to a play action pass. On that play, it was obvious that Landry was assigned to the strong side flat. No one was in the flat, so Landry stayed high. As Shiancoe ran to the back of the end zone behind him, Landry continued to gravitate toward the flat and let the tight end catch the touchdown. That was a simple play where Landry could have saved a touchdown if he had played with a little instinct. Instead, he simply stayed in his zone and allowed the play to be made. There was similar play to Rice in the red-zone. Landry had the underneath coverage, which is suppose to be played very aggressively, and Washington had the coverage over the top. Landry let the ball be throw right over his head and did not even contact the receiver on the play. The Vikings game was an embarrassment for Landry. Favre loves to move safeties with his eyes. That was a big part of it, but some of those plays were inexcusable. Landry is simply not playing with any instinct.
- Every player, including Reed, in the secondary has not been effective this season. Obviously, the secondary woes are not all Landry's fault. I singled him out because I've seen him play poorly all year and wanted to mark a difference between last year and this year. The corners have obviously played poorly too. They just seem to get more blame than they deserve in my opinion. Foxworth actually played a respectable game and seemed to be more physical, especially in run support. Washington was unbelievably soft. He play off the receivers, and I did not see him fight for a pass all game. Walker gets alot of blame but shouldn't be covering Sidney Rice one-on-one in the first place. I tend to give the corners more grace since I honestly believe our scheme is bad and the pass rush has rarely pressured the quarterback this season. That brings me to my next point...
- The Ravens defensive lineman cannot get off blocks. The interesting part is that they are still very good in run defense, but when they are rushing the passer, they are not effective. Trevor Pryce is a great lineman, but he has lost agility with age. It seems like all of the lineman are big run stuffers. The Ravens are trying to bring pressure with their front four but don't have a dominate pass rushing defensive end. Ngata is a great player but is only average at rushing the passer. Suggs and Johnson are also a great players, but they are not strong enough to challenge offensive tackles on every play. The Ravens do not have the players to effectively and consistently bring pressure with their front four. They need a defensive end like Vandenbosch, Allen or Peppers to effectively run 4-3 pressures and looks. To be successful right now, I believe that they need to start using more 3-4 looks.
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Agree with most points
My biggest concern is our pass rush. We need more athletic lineman who can get off blocks, but that isn’t going to happen mid season. Since that’s not a viable option I agree with playing more 3-4. If we can improve the pass rush, our secondary will improve as well, and we will be tough to beat.
Ray Rice is the truth. Downright nasty with those stiff arms and ridiculous balance.
by DT711 on Oct 19, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It may seem biased
But I really think Rice brings way more to the table than MJD, considering they are basically the same body type. MJD is a little thicker and maybe more powerful, but Rice is not too far behind him and is way shiftier. Also a better pass catcher. I still cannot get over how a 5’9" 205 man can have two or three 6’3", 250 pound beast on grabbing you, yet you still break off a 50 yard catch.
And did you see the stiff arm on my boy EJ Henderson on his first TD? Man, that was not fair.
Limp and dangling.
by Joe Flaccid on Oct 19, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this may seem like blasphemy,
but the 34 is a scheme that requires all the right personnel to play. We may not have that on the roster anymore.
Like Flaccid was saying on the other post, Ngata is playing DE but isn’t a quick pressure-type of pass-rusher. Pryce has learned to two-gap very well, but he’s lost some speed. And unfortunately, you don’t get paid to 2-gap on passing downs. QBs would like it if you did, but you don’t.
It might be time to go to a 43. I mean, like, a bread and butter base 43 defense—not the 34 stack with JJ in a 3 pt stance. All the fancy schemes are cool, but when you’re giving QBs 6 and 7 seconds to throw against Foxworth and Fabian, you’re asking for it.
I’m suggesting that we roll with a front four consisting of Kruger (RE), Gregg and Ngata (DTs), and Pryce (LE). Even Pryce has really become more of a 2-gap end rather than a 43 pass-rusher, but he’d be on the strong side and a 1-gap scheme would give him great liberties to go for penetration on running downs rather than just eating blocks.
The LBs would be, obviously, Suggs on the weak side, Lewis, and JJ on the strong side.
At the very least this would give our weak-side rush some more speed between Kruger and Suggs on the edge, and allowing Ngata and Gregg to 1-gap could put them in more advantageous matchup situations.
While we may not have any quick solutions at CB, we can solve the ILB problem by just letting Ray Lewis run the 43. Everybody in the NFL has played 43 before, it wouldn’t be much to teach and it could help us minimize our liabilities on defense.
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by jackmca on Oct 19, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of play it a lot now
with Trevor on one side and Suggs with his hand in the dirt, and Ngata and Gregg in the middle, there we are with Ray, JJ and either Ellerbe or T-Gooden at LB’s. I’d like to see Bannan in there more than Gregg, as he looks more effective IMO.
Like to see a change in LB’s to give Ellerbe, Kruger in pass rush situations and even Prescott Burgess and Barnes some serious PT.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 19, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the 34 is a scheme that requires all the right personnel to play. We may not have that on the roster anymore.
The Ravens defense was actually built for the 3-4 scheme. That’s the point here. Rex Ryan perfected it, and Newsome drafted players that excelled in it. Many players can transition easily between schemes, but it’s hardest for the outside linebackers and defensive ends. That’s why scouts talk about college players transitioning from defensive end to linebacker in the NFL.
Both Suggs and Johnson are 3-4 outside linebackers. They are not strong enough to play the defensive end in the 4-3 and are not fast enough to play the outside linebacker either. They are both prototypical 3-4 outside linebackers and also happen to be two of the Ravens best defensive players. The Ravens really need to play the scheme that puts their players in the best positions to be successful. Right now, I think that’s the 3-4.
by BAL_Hawk on Oct 19, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the touchdown to Berrian, Washington was playing about eight yards off Berrian,
I mean I think they are the vast majority of our problems on defense. You may be right that we’re missing Leonhard. But just because Fabian was “decent” last year doesn’t change the fact that he’s been getting schooled this year. Foxworth did seem to play with some urgency Sunday, but he’s had far from an unblemished season.
Through all of the Ravens defensive dominance they’ve always had good corners. Now we’re seeing what they look like when they don’t. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that our pass defense first showed flaws last year after McAllister and Rolle went down and Frank Walker started seeing the field more. I feel like there’s a pretty obvious cause-and-effect there.
Now we’re not just filling in for guys for a few weeks, we’re trying to go 16 games with guys who—let’s face it—have never really proven themselves as full-time regular season starting corners. It changes everything you do as a defense. It’s really hard to underestimate.
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by jackmca on Oct 19, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Through all of the Ravens defensive dominance they’ve always had good corners. Now we’re seeing what they look like when they don’t. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that our pass defense first showed flaws last year after McAllister and Rolle went down and Frank Walker started seeing the field more. I feel like there’s a pretty obvious cause-and-effect there.
Obviously, there is a fundamental connection between the pass rush and the coverage. In 2007, the Ravens were starting corners that shouldn’t have been in the league. That was due to the lack of depth. Currently, we are witnessing a breakdown in the pass rush that we haven’t seen from the Ravens in a long time… maybe ever. The corners are unproven, but even McAlister and Rolle would have had a hard time in our current defense.
by BAL_Hawk on Oct 19, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agrred
without a pass rush in front of them they’d be exposed as well. Look what a good pass rush did for Duane Starks in the Super Bowl year and how bad he was after he left. Also see Kim Herring!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 20, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ray Rice = Best playmaker in NFL. GIVE HIM THE BALL
I think the Ravens finally figured out what they have in Ray Rice. A dynamic NFL playmaker. Please give the ball to Rice 20-25 touches a game. I have been saying this to friends for weeks. Sorry Willis, Your pretty good, but you are not Rice. I would also like to see Rice lined up more in the slot. He is a receiving threat like no other back in league, except maybe, Tomlinson. I think also Ravens need to run the Hurry UP offense more. I see a Indy type offense when they do. Personal mistakes. Biggest offseason mistake. JIM LEONARD. WE MISS YOU.
by snikin2 on Oct 19, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why did
we sign suggz for that huge contract. We should have franchised him and traded him. He’s only good at the run and you could easily find someone in the 3 or 4th round to play as good. He played terribly at rushing the passer using no techniques to beat Mckinnie (and his motor sucks). I agree with the post we need to use more 3-4 schemes to confuse QBs where the 4th rusher is coming from. Mattison is playing far to conservatively with the consistent 4 man rush of the 4-3. I dont blame the DBS there is no pass rush coming. I love flacco but i think he was given to much credit. The real deal is RAy Rice. Ozzymadias strikes again in the 2nd round! Flacco checked down to him every other play and flacco gets the credit. Mclain needs to come back in the 1st quarter to wear down the defenses. Dont worry guys, we got a bye ahead of us, just keep believing! In Oz we trust.
by Andrew A on Oct 19, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Suggs was playing against one of the best in the entire NFL Sunday.
Normally he gets through even with double teams all over him. He is right now our best defensive players and along w/ Ed, Ray and Haloti the top four on the defense and the future leader after both Ed and Ray retire.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 20, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
He’s only good at the run and you could easily find someone in the 3 or 4th round to play as good.
I’d like to see that. Get back to us before the draft with some prospects with 3rd or 4th rd grades who will be better then Suggs. It should be easy…. end sarcasm
Suggs has not been great this year but he takes on multiple blockers and is a versatile player as well as our top pass rusher, by far. Let’s not take for granted what we do have on this defense. They might not be good so far, but they could be a hell of a lot worse.
by DT711 on Oct 20, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you watched rice at rutgers this is no surprise. he should have been prepared better by the coahes and utilized more last season. i just hope the D gets it together so he can make the big stage.
by raven on Oct 19, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ray put on at least 10 pounds
of muscle in his upper body and it shows how he stiffarms and sheds tackles this season.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 20, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
trade deadline 2mar
Last chance this year to make a trade and make the ravens more of a contender than what they already are. cornerback or wide receiver?
by Raven_all_day on Oct 19, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they need to put the ego aside and make a trade. trade picks or whatever because these are ray’s, gregg’s, price’s, mason’s and ed’s last good years. win now or take your chances on a total revamping of the D over the next few years. considering our depth at LB and DB we could be in trouble.
by raven on Oct 19, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ray had that stiff arm last year…ask Farrior….1 of Rays VERY few touches. Dumb.
by raven on Oct 20, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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