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Baltimore Ravens safety Ed Reed sits on the bench in the closing seconds of an NFL football game against the Cincinnati Bengals, Sunday, Oct. 11, 2009, in Baltimore. Cincinnati won 17-14. (AP Photo/Nick Wass)

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about 1 month ago: Baltimore Ravens safety Ed Reed sits on the bench in the closing seconds of an NFL football game against the Cincinnati Bengals, Sunday, Oct. 11, 2009, in Baltimore. Cincinnati won 17-14. (AP Photo/Nick Wass)

It's over, we lost to the division leading Cincinnati Bengals and now have lost two in a row to sit at 3-2 and tied with the Pittsburgh Steelers for second place in the AFC North going into week six at the Minnesota Vikings. However, if many of us looked at the 2009 season schedule before the games started, we thought this was just where we'd be record-wise. Unfortunately, we probably thought we'd have lost at the San Diego Chargers and beaten the Bengals, but the record still stays the same.

What makes it so tough is that after looking pretty good for three straight weeks, back to back losses in games we had every chance to win despite playing relatively poorly leaves a bad taste in your mouth. To make matters worse, we are now going into a dome to play an undefeated Vikings team that has every reason to beat us and send us into the Bye week at 3-3. You just know the league will be waiting and watching for us to swipe,  touch or even breathe on another one of their prized possessions in Vikings QB Brett Favre.

Star-divide

The combination of Favre playing like the star that he can be combined with the best RB in the league make this look like a tough game to compete in. The Vikings offensive line opens huge holes for Adrian Peterson and Favre has cut down on the mistakes he has made from his gunslinger days and the result is a tough offense to game plan against. Defensively, their line is among the best in the league, from the two Williams' in the middle and pass rushing freak Jared Allen on the outside making life miserable for opposing QB's.

It'll be interesting to see if Ravens LT Jared Gaither is playing and if not, how rookie Michael Oher will do in what would be by far his toughest match up of his young career. Either way, if we continue to make mistakes, both in execution and in the eyes of the zebras, we will not have a chance to win that game at the end. This game will require  a solid effort on both sides of the ball, which is always a daunting task on the road in the NFL, much less in a dome against an undefeated team.

But for now, forget about the loss and release the frustrations that have had you venting like this is the end of the season after only five games. There are still winnable home games against Denver, Detroit, Chicago and Pittsburgh and perhaps even Indianapolis. Road games at Cleveland and Oakland could be expected and if we can win at least one of the other road games at Cincinnati, Green Bay Pittsburgh then we can still reasonably expect to fight for the AFC North division title and at least another playoff berth. It's a game by game thing in the NFL and amnesia can be a good thing if we can forget the bad things and focus on doing it right. We did it last year when no one expected us to and there's no reason why we can't get back on track. Besides, in the NFL, it's how you finish, not how you start. Be patient, be reasonable and most importantly be a fan.

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What happened to the game plan????

After watching the Ravens play the last two weeks, its pretty obvious they’ve moved away from their formula for success. How can a team put up an average of over 30 points a game three weeks in a row and then revert to some scheme that takes them back to the Billick era? I don’t get it!!!! I’m certainly not in panic mode, but let’s regroup guys and get back to what made you number 1 in the power rankings! Go Ravens!!!! Play like a Raven!!!

by Smiley4660 on Oct 13, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rex ryan

The ravens are still a very touch team. In the past they had no proven QB but Flacco is now getting the job done. The loss of Rex Ryan is a big deal though

Wanna know What NFL players really think about Rush Limbaugh

Rush Limbaugh an NFL owner: Hell No!!! http://bit.ly/7HDhj

"Don't Be Afraid to Stand on a Pile of 'No's' for one 'Yes'"

by curiousg87 on Oct 13, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rex who?

The coach of the Jets who lost their last two games and are now 3-2 just like the Ravens? Oh that one.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 13, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see Rex give up the end of the game drive? Good to see he hasnt changed much.

by archon095 on Oct 13, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good perspective

offered here.

This game is about attitude.
I’ve always seen the Ravens as team that plays well from the underdog perspective.

If you guys can tap into that mentality, that you have something to PROVE now—you can go prove that YOUR defense is still as tough as it was, and that the BiQueens are the imposters—you might very well be able to take this game over.

The Ravens defense needs to get MAD, dammit!
GET MAD over giving up that 100+ yard game to Benson, get MAD that you gave up the game last week, and fell short the week before—and take it out on the Vikes!!

You’re right—Bratt Favre is a league, darling, and they will be overly prtotective. The 3 step drops and quick releases they have him using this year and sparing him from a lot of his usual blunders/sackability.
But I think you guys still have tthe talent to get to him and disrupt the Vikes’ o-line in the middle.

The other thing to consider about the Vikings is that they’ve played a lot of cupcake teams this year, their schedule has been a cakewalk…look at these wins:

@ Cle — a gimme game

@ Detroit — another gimme game

GB — problems on the o-line, not the contender everyone thought

SF — SF has some problems that ATL exposed (inability to pass), and the Vikes BARELY beat them, and that was at home, and w/out the 9ers having Gore

@ STL —another gimme game
 
In other words, don’t be fooled by the 5-0. Sure, Vikes have some talent, but that haven’t faced any REAL adversity yet.

This is a more-than-winnable game for the Ravens…as long as they approach it with their minds “right”.

Best of luck,
A Bears fan in Westminster

by Amishbear on Oct 13, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The VIkes cupcakes

I think it is naive to disregard a team based solely on the talent of the teams they have beaten without looking at how and why they won. Clearly in the first 3 games Favre did not have a good chemistry with his receivers, and not the best handle on the playbook. The last two games show that the chemistry and knowledge of the playbook are further along now.

Some additional stats you would expect of a good team against bad teams:

Turnover ratio: 1st
Sacks: 1st
Total points: 1st
3rd down conv: 3rd
Penalties: 4th

The Vikes greatest weakness is pass defense, (don’t let the sacks fool you). Any team with a good pass attack and can keep their QB vertical has a good chance to keep pace with the offense.

by Dave_M on Oct 13, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I find it funny

That a Bear fan is so scared of our team that they have to implore another conference to beat us. Oh by the way, that GB team that has “problems on the o-line, not the contender that everyone thought” beat you guys in week 1. What does that say bout CHI? Falcons are going to molest CHI this week, have fun. Sorry Ravens fans, back on topic. I see a tough game with high scoring, with my Vikes at home I’ll take a FG late for us to win. If you were the home team, I’d probably give you guys that FG win.

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 13, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, the way we're playing,

I’d think you’d expect a blowout!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 13, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in defense of his prediction

Minny isn’t half as stacked at WR as Cincy is. Cincy’s WR corps is nasty, which is why they kept bringing out three and four of them at once: it put their best players and our worst players on the field.

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Oct 13, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our WR core is just fine. The Ravens won’t know it until Sunday. Which is just fine.

by kenbomc on Oct 13, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The officials are going to be overly protective?

They haven’t so far. What’s your theory on why they will start? I have to say, it will be entertaining to watch the Bears versus the 49ers.

by Salty on Oct 13, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

Of course you’ll hear this kind of take from one of the Viking’s divisional opponents. The truth is….we’ve been hearing this type of argument for five weeks now. It’ll be six very soon. I think it’ll be a good game,. But don’t count out the noise factor in the Dome. The Vikes will win this one.

by kenbomc on Oct 13, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A bit off topic, but germane to one of your comments

“You just know the league will be waiting and watching for us to swipe, touch or even breathe on another one of their prized possessions in Vikings QB Brett Favre.”

Did anyone watch MNF and see (can’t recall the defender) the 4th quarter rush on Sanchez on the intentional grounding call? The defender dove, grabbed Sanchez’s leg and then grabbed onto his ankle. Sanchez was sideways and for a brief moment it sure looked like it could have wrenched his knee. The result was no flag. At least Sanchez had some pants on and didn’t jump up and down for a penalty. If it was Bradey or Farve, that would have been 15 yards for “touching the passer”.

What constitutes a penalty is maddeningly inconsistent, and from my perspective biased to help the offense. The Ravens just must assume they’ll come out on the losing end of these ticky tack calls and tone it down.

Favre playing within himself in the passing game (i.e. no stupid gunslinging) and a good running game are going to make this a tough one for the defense.

by drj on Oct 13, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Favre's not going to jump up and look for a penalty.

If he gets a clean hit from, for example, Ray Lewis, he’ll stand up, tap Lewis on the helmet and say, “nice hit Ray.” If he thinks it’s a late hit, he’ll get up and get in his face. But I can promise you he’s not going to be looking for a ref.

by Migrant lurker on Oct 13, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta say

Even if he still hasn’t made up his mind about what to have for breakfast for last Thursday, you’re right – Favre is no BradyLady when it comes to taking a shot. He’s never been one to look for a ref to fight his battles for him. I used to have a LOT of respect for Brett before he embarrassed himself with the endless cycle of retire/return. Now I have less, but I will not take a thing away from him as a MAN on the field.

"Talk’s cheap. Let’s go play." - Unitas

by D-Fensive on Oct 14, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Probably right

but you can be sure the refs will be watching us. And rightfully so, so we better be on our best behavior!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 14, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bruce, a question:

Are you able to get people on the phone at the Ravens front office to ask them how they feel about personnel? I’m just asking because, A) I’m wondering if they’d be willing to make a statement about personnel decisions; either if they’re not going to make any changes or if they have other options on the table, and B) it would be pretty sweet for the blog if you could get statements from the front office.

Just asking.

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Oct 13, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They won't give me any insight

Just the same tings you hear at the press conferences. They will gladly tell me anything “ositive” I want to hear, such as “is Joe the same guy off the field as he appears to be on it?” (“Yes”).
Sorry.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 13, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PS: They will say

they love their current personnel and think they can win with what they have now.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 13, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To which

I agree at this point, as I’m not thinking we’re as bad as we’ve looked, nor as good. However, I think we’re closer to the real good team than we are to the one who lost the past two.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 13, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still

after a game like sunday, you have to think it would put them in a rough spot as to what they can seriously say in public. They can’t just say “Foxworth did great, what game did you watch?”

Still, it would be interesting to get an official position from them on some of the issues we’ve been discussing. They would at least need to acknowledge that the secondary played poorly, or give you a no comment.

Hey, you never know until you try.

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Oct 13, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A winning orginization (which we are)

Never publicly throws its players under the bus. It serves no purpose and they will never do it.

by DT711 on Oct 13, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats why i do it

by raven on Oct 13, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tyree is a raven

its official. Ho Hum.

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Oct 13, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

Wonder why he was brought in now? Maybe Joe can throw 50 passes a game now.

Limp and dangling.

by Joe Flaccid on Oct 13, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we needed joe to rip off a 45 yard run to beat the bengals again.

by raven on Oct 13, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this will be Ozzie’s answer to not going after a WR after this season. “We feel that Washington, Tyree and Clayton, all unproven guys, can help Joe progress”

Limp and dangling.

by Joe Flaccid on Oct 13, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's more of a Special Teams move...

He’s a good Special Teams guy and with Ayanbedejo out and Chris Carr a bust so far, I think it’s just help sure up ST. Not to mention he does have good speed so if the Ravens ever want to go 4/5 wide they’ll have him. He may have been able to catch up to that overthrow Sunday… now whether he actually catches the ball with his hands once he gets there… that could be a different story.

Jioe Flaacco, Hon!!! "He’s like a live JUGS machine."

by dayzd toe on Oct 13, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point

he’s obviously not going to usurp mason or clayton or washington

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Oct 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Special Team

that rides a special bus. who are we? ravens!

by raven on Oct 13, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In reference to the heading of this post...

I am trying to move on, but I CAN’T!!! (I know I sound like a broken hearted 14 year old who just got broken up with…)

I came here to bury the Chargers, not to praise them. And I came here to drink Tequila, not to choke her. But I can’t wait to get my hands on somebody. - Ray Ray

by JenD on Oct 13, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

welcome JenD

by raven on Oct 13, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you need a shoulder to cry on after the Ravens loss this Sunday..just let me know. ;-)

by kenbomc on Oct 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

all out of tears…this will have to be a dry loss. i’m just hoping it doesn’t turn into last years Giants game. it may well be our rock bottom. favre looked great against the Pack. his arm was lively and he is just so smart about reading, well, everything. BUT, he can chuck up a few INTS. he’s still good for those.

by raven on Oct 13, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully we'll be at the beginning

of the fall that Favre had last year after looking great for the first part of the 2008 season and then looking like an old man for the latter part.

Perhaps he’ll look like the Favre that we killed in Baltimore the last time these teams played.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 14, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we should have got a guy off the vikings practice squad, debriefed him and then sen him back the following week. bilichick style.

by raven on Oct 13, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey Bruce,

sorry!! I was sounding like an ass on your post on sunday. It wont happen again. I left a late message over there too. Sorry this apology was late also.

by WHYUS!! on Oct 13, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry about it

we’re all fans on The Beatdown, regardless of what team we root for, be it the Ravens or all the other sorry teams out there!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 14, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its been that type of week…off the handle seems to be the flavor of the day.

by raven on Oct 13, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Moved on the minute Monday started

with the loss on sunday, it became increasingly obvious that upcoming game with the vikings would very important, so to sit around and mope about the bengals loss would only hurt the mission at hand. Hopefully the ravens looked at it the same way. Oher played well against odom so if hes playing allen then, im not too worried. I do hope to get Gaither back, i feel like we missed him for the ground game last sunday. Overall i hope this loss fired up the ravens and i look forward to a good game this sunday

by sam_ravens on Oct 14, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

here's the good news

one: cincy is perhaps the most stacked team at WR in the league. For them, it was a no-brainer to keep at least 3 wr on the field at all times, because it kept their best players out there, and our worst players out there. It kept men out of the box for Benson, and it provided multiple choices of mismatches for Palmer to make his selection from.

two: Palmer is back and as good as he’s ever been. He’s also cut his teeth in the NFL playing against better Ravens D’s than the one he saw sunday. So he was expecting Ravens Stout, and he got Ravens Lite. Needless to say he chugged the beer.

three: Favre has neither the personell at WR nor the experience against us that Palmer has. although Favre will be watching some pretty mouth-watering game tape, that isn’t the same as playing us twice a year for your whole career. Last time he played us was the last time Kyle Boller had a good game. Remember that? 2005 I do believe.

four: we haven’t seen bad/reckless Favre at all this year. That may mean he’s due for an egg. He’s probably also feeling pretty smug following that GB win. If there’s one guy who’ll love to see Favre make some ill-advised throws, it’s no. 20.

That’s what we can hope for. Obviously, its also quite possible that we get dropped to 3-3. We shall see…

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Oct 14, 2009 3:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t Rodgers play mostly that whole game to? It was Monday night at home in the all black. We won like 41-3 and heap had his only career reception for over 40 yards that went for a td. At least it seems like his longest. Does heap ever go past 20 yards anymore?

Limp and dangling.

by Joe Flaccid on Oct 14, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Favre played the whle game

I got pictures of the game with the #4 guy lying on his back in most of them.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 14, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rodgers was in there

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2005121900/2005/REG15/packers@ravens#tab:analyze

He was 8/15 for 65 yards and an interception.

Boller had some serious numbers. 19/27 for 253 yards and 3 tds. Jamal 105 and a td.

Limp and dangling.

by Joe Flaccid on Oct 14, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct

but Favre was the main culprit that game with his dismal numbers including the two picks. Andyes, Boller was lights out that week and the week against the Vikings, but horrible up to that point and after. His only other memorable games was the 2007 NE loss in that classic game.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 14, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The NE loss was Boller's best game of his career

In my opinion. He was slinging it all day and the guys in the booth could not stop talking about his “rocket arm.” I still think that Boller has one of the worst throwing motions in the league. It looks like it takes 10 minutes to get out of his hands.

Limp and dangling.

by Joe Flaccid on Oct 14, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he made the one throw that killed us

he had heap on the sideline and all he needed to do was put a little air under it, but instead he did the trademark Kyle Boller lazer beam that flys on a straight line at 115mph and it was picked off…

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Oct 15, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boller short arms the ball

and at the end of his career when he looked to always be in so much pain, McNair also short-armed it. Flacco rears back and slings it like a nerf football!

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 16, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s interesting what you say about the Bengals. Are they stacked at WR? You may be right. I’m not all that familiar with some names on their team. Chad Johnson is excellent. Henry is good. Coles is okay. I think Rice, Berrian and Harvin are pretty good, but they aren’t deep so it wouldn’t be easy for them to use many 3 receiver sets. The filp side of that is that Favre has never had great receiver corps.

I took a quick look at the passing stats for the year and Cincy and Minny are about the same in a lot of them and the Ravens are better than both in some critical ones!

Favre might have seen more 3-4 defenses over the past year than 4-3 including some pretty good middle LBs and D-lineman. He and the coaches will look at a lot more film than a flat performance last week.

by Salty on Oct 14, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not too sure if Coles even played Sunday

he didn’t have a single catch and Caldwell had the GW TD. But the Vikes don’t need much at WR as we don’t ewither with a good enough QB and a solid run game.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 14, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He played

But yes, not a single catch. I saw a picture this morning of Caldwell after the TD and Coles in the backgound holding his hands up.

Limp and dangling.

by Joe Flaccid on Oct 14, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in any event

Ocho, Henry, Coles, and Caldwell is a pretty nasty receiving corps. Certainly better than Berrian, Harvin, and whoever else is starting for them… Rice still? Their TE, Shiancoe, is very good. But all in all that’s a backfield-based team, like us.

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Oct 15, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we did okay on sunday but got burnt by penalties, no calls (chad arm barring on the INT attempt on the final drive), chris carr should not be in the secondary. he’s too small and had that costly interference penalty. flacco needs to see the field better. he could have won it with just a little more placement. we are close to getting it together. VERY UNLUCKY. I have never seen 2 back to back games where a team has been this unlucky with calls and breaks.

benson was totally stuffed in the backfield by #50 before he wheeled around and scored. foxy quit on henry. carr go toasted. edwards should not be in pass coverage as he was and got torched. i take back a lot of things i said earlier this week but it was how i felt. i shouldn’t blog until wednesday after losses..or at least until i see the replay. things can look a lot different from my stadium seat. like, they called ed reeds number on the pass interference call. so i layed into ed reed. i was wrong. ray had a decent game and I can understand why he worries about his backside- chris carr in coverage. oh well. onward and upward. thats why i changed my picture. trying to get the bitter out.

by raven on Oct 14, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have never seen 2 back to back games where a team has been this unlucky with calls and breaks.

it happens all the time, you just don’t see it that way unless it’s your team. In reality, we’re not special. We need to stop getting dumb penalties and start taking control of our destiny. You can’t make a living in the NFL by blaming it on bad breaks and mean refs.

"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down

by jackmca on Oct 15, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we did a great job on coles. i forgot about him completely.

by raven on Oct 14, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just like Mason, huh?

both were invisible, but Mason’s inactivity hurt us more than Coles’ did.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 16, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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