Ravens Play Poorly, Lose to Bengals 17-14
Got to give Cincinnati credit, as they not only beat the Ravens on both sides of the ball, but on the scoreboard as well. To rub it in, the Ravens surrendered over 100 yards to an individual running back as the Bengals' Cedric Benson was the first to do so against us in 39 games, dating back to late 2006.
Complain all you want to about the penalties or the lack of an offense. With two minutes to go in the game, the Ravens had the lead 14-10 with the Bengals on their own 20 yard line. If Cincinnati could go 80 yards against this defense, then they deserve to win the game, which they did. Once again, Baltimore loses a tough, close game they were in position to win. Now sitting at 3-2 and heading to Minnesota to face an undefeated Vikings team, the Ravens are now tied for second with the Pittsburgh Steelrs, a game behind the 4-1 AFC North leading Cincinnati Bengals.
More to follow shortly, but throw out your post game comments here and unleash your frustrations along with me here at The Beatdown.
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Unreal.
the last 8 minutes of this game was heart-pounding.
"We're only going to score 17 points?!" - Tom Brady
by iLL on Oct 11, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I take it this wanna-be Malor found his way over here, just like I predicted.
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 12, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im new to posting here and all but
what the heck was that. I’d rather just see us lose a game outright then seeing it the way its happened the last 2 weeks. Makes me sick
by sam_ravens on Oct 11, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ravens D is collapsing.
Clayton missed a game clinching bomb from Flacco. I am very disappointed in Clayton’s performance these past two weeks.
by McGahee on Oct 11, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he should of tried a bit harder on that one
didn’t even lay out, what’s up with that
by sam_ravens on Oct 11, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes a pussy....
R.I.P. Tony Fein
May God watch over you wherever you are now and may you be in a better place. We will never forget you!
by Baltimore Warrior on Oct 11, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flacco overthrew him...
Clayton did a great job of separating himself from the corner and Flacco threw it 5 yards too far.
by mlb32001 on Oct 11, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way. . .
Flacco overthrew that about 10 yards, Clayton had no chance. You can’t blame this loss on Clayton. Leon Hall had to dive for that ball and he was about 3 strides ahead of Mark on that one.
"We're only going to score 17 points?!" - Tom Brady
by iLL on Oct 11, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
meh, i wouldn't blame it on clayton
that ball should of been thrown to kelly washington instead. This was a personal game for him, no matter what he would of made sure he was underneath that ball
by sam_ravens on Oct 11, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No need for the Hail Mary
Why the heck did he opt for the 50 yard bomb when we only needed 15 or less. Cam’s love affair with chuck and duck is getting old.
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great game
Yes I am a Bengals fan but since one of your guys came over to our Cincy Jungle page I will return the kindness. That was a helluva defensive game. The Ravens D gave up some plays but caused turnovers when needed. Great game, see you in a few weeks.
by Hoit214 on Oct 11, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHO DEY
The bengals are just a better team
by vottoholic on Oct 11, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude come on
As a fellow Bengals fan that’s just lame. They aren’t coming over and talking trash so why are you?
by Hoit214 on Oct 11, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm. A respectable Bengals fan
I just might not kill you.
( Thats a compliment.)
R.I.P. Tony Fein
May God watch over you wherever you are now and may you be in a better place. We will never forget you!
by Baltimore Warrior on Oct 11, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to admit now
that the Bengals are indeed the better team – for now. If you can drive 80 yards on our Defense for the game winner TD pass, then yes, you are the better team.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are wrong IMO Bruce
The Ravens are still a slighty better team. We just were the better team today. But you have to hand it to my boys.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 11, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JJ, thanks for the props but
when you come into our crib and go 80 yards for the gamewinning TD, YOU are the better team.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch the f-bombs!
Not permitted here on The Beatdown. Even by a Ravens fan.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes sir.....
R.I.P. Tony Fein
May God watch over you wherever you are now and may you be in a better place. We will never forget you!
by Baltimore Warrior on Oct 11, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im not im just saying the bengals are a better team
by vottoholic on Oct 11, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you get a chance in the jungle, just remember this

CB85
by TennBengalfan on Oct 11, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no big
we all know lardarius webb > chris carr anyday
"Going over the hitters it was decided that we should pitch Frank Robinson underground." - Jim Bouton
by neptunerav on Oct 11, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too bad he isn't on the field.
i dont know if anybody else was watching, but opposing QBs have fallen in love with no. 24, Dom Foxworth. he is THE weak link on the D (carr wasn’t great either).
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Oct 12, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See Carr laying on the field in the above photo?
He’s done way too much of that this season.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i’m pretty much in panic mode about our secondary.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Oct 12, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is what the Steelers are saying too Sam
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 11, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree. The Benglas are the better team. I am so used to our sorry preventish penalty riddled cry baby loser fianl drive D that it is almost comical. We can see the collapse coming 80 yards away. Starts with the D leaders….and we don’t have 1.
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I made our group leave w/ two minutes left
1. I wanted to beat the traffic if we won.
2. I didn’t want to be there to watch us lose.
I made the right decision. Ouch.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how did you get all those assisted living people into the van so quick?
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bengals Defense
I’ll admit they are a tough group and held us to 82 yds rushing. I was honestly impressed with their effort against the run the most today. Rey Maualuga’s a beast and will be for many more years. Give credit when credit’s due.
"We don’t have any rearview mirrors in our car,"- John Harbaugh
by purpleonblack86 on Oct 11, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man it sucks azz losing to the bengals.
Don’t worry. Be patient. All it takes is time to get back ahead of the bengals.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 11, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good game
From a bengals fan, I thought it was a good game. I love watching these two teams play each other because they always play tough. It sucks to lose, but especially when penalties killed your team two weeks in a row, so i feel you on that.
looking forward to a showdown in cincy later in the season. we have a rough stretch ahead.
i did have one question, going back to the new england game 2 years ago when they were undefeated, do you think this d has trouble dealing with pressure situations? don’t get me wrong, they’re a great d and have been for years, but it just seems like when calls start going against them, they stop playing with discipline and end up giving up big plays. thoughts?
by brandone on Oct 11, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I, for one, refuse to blame the refs
It doesn’t help to have your team so prone to earning these penalties, so the refs look for us to make the wrong move and we then make it easy for them to throw the flag. Sucks, but is never the reason we lost.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what?
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Oct 12, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you not see Foxworth?
they owned our CBs? when you know that a team has sick LBs but has sub-par CBs, you’re going to run a lot of 3 and 4 WR sets. which they did. and they killed us in those sets. they kept our talent off the field. and they gave Brett Favre a little hint hint hint that no. 24 couldn’t cover his @$$ with a towel if you handed it to him and told him it was a wide receiver.
Bruce, I love you man, but I saw serious problems today and i am very, very afraid. And don’t be in denial—FOXWORTH IS A PROBLEM.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Oct 12, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The foxworth deal was dumb from the start. We pay a guy big money and he was only a PT player in Denver and Atlanta (?). To top it off he’s also a bit of a smart ass. Must be the English upbringing. Not a fan.
by raven on Oct 12, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I wanted
Pittsburgh’s Anthony McFadden over Foxworth. McFadden knew the AFC North real well and look who he practiced against each week!?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our secondary as a whole has been exposed.
In past years we’ve had a bigger CB to cover the stronger WR’s and a smaller one to cover the faster. Now we can’t seem to do either and exacerbating (good word, eh?) the problem is the lack of pressure from our pass rush, which makes it so much harder to cover for any length of time.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes.
and i cringe to think of what brett favre will watch on game tape this week. with him and foxworth, it’l be love at first sight.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Oct 12, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but didn't benson break the raven's no-100 yard rusher streak? I didn't expect that.
not trying to be a jerk, but the Ravens had a long streak didn’t they? oh whoops you have it in the top of the thread. Sorry. Too lazy to delete now.
Also worrisome for the Ravens is the 2 game lead on the Steelers has been squandered. It’s still a long season ahead. See you in November. I’ll probably be there @ M&T!
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 11, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yup, I can't believe it has ended
and against the retread from the Bears! The Cincy offensive line just blew us off the ball and opened huge holes for Benson who got to the second level time after time.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was able to watch the ravens game from across the bar
and Reed was fun to watch. I couldn’t believe Benson was cuttin’ you guys up!
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 11, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that fat ass ripped off some nice runs…once you get past Ngata and Gregg there aint much back there anymore..just sarecrows and tin men.
by raven on Oct 12, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretender
Im sorry but the Ravens have now fallen to pretender status and are only an average team. This is the worst Ravens game Ive seen in a while, once the Bengals had the ball on that 2 minute warning I knew the game was over. If we would have played this bad against a good team it would have been 45-0. The Reed TD and Rice TD were the only positive plays of the game. Period. Offense played like garbage, defense played like garbage and is no longer a good defense, and we have now gone into critical mode for the season. The Ravens are not even playoff caliber much less superbowl caliber, we should be worried about going 8-8 right now. I expect us to get killed next week and then have our bye week, so get used to it Ravens fans the next month is going to be filled with disappointment.
by ShaneOmacDaddy on Oct 11, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The first part was dead on, but
don’t make one game into a full season worth of disappointment so quickly.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, please don’t make it a bad season already. I need something to look forward to.
This team will bounce back!!!
Lonely Ravens fan in Cheese Head country (Watertown, WI)
by DorisF on Oct 11, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are correct here Bruce
They are a good team and I just think it will be a 3 team race to the end.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 11, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"JUNGLEJOHN"
hey dude, you were one of the more civilized fans from cinci talking about your team’s improvements before the season. Congrats on getting to the top of the AFCN, for now. Can’t wait until yinz get down to Heinz Field later in the year…
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 11, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SO THE bENGALS ARE NOT A GOOD TEAM?
I know that the Ravens are good, but give credit where credit is deserved!!!!! We beat you fair and square!!! There were some bad and good calls on both sides of the ball. I think that after this game you should see that the Bengals are good and can only get better. The Ravens are good, but the better team won today!!!! See you in a couple of weeks! IN THE JUNGLE!!!!!! p.s. THE RAVENS ARE NOT PRETENDERS!!!!!
by WHYUS!! on Oct 11, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are saying that you ARE the better team
or at least looked like it today. By the end of the season we shall see, but for now, you have the right to claim that.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what we saw today was how a bad CB can make the other 10 starters look bad (and vice-versa: look at tennl.)
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Oct 12, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Team Dynamics?
This is not an excuse, but I wonder, since our team had for years been Defense dominated, i.e. the D was the D and the Offense, AND going back to the SuperBowl win, they and We all loved it, and came to depend on it as a given. Perhaps having an Offense has thrown the Defense off in the way they showed up for each game? It has to be a big change for them, think about how it’s a big change for us Fans, and we are not out on the field every week. Maybe they are not adjusting well to the change, and may not even realize t? All I do know, is that their Persona is different, and it’s about more than athletic talent.
by Blackbirdsong on Oct 11, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The times of the incredeible defense is apparently over.
unless we put offensive points on the board our defense will not lead us to victory anymore.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Balancing Act Needed...
Yes, aka Rexx, I agree. We bitched & complained about not having a QB, not having Offense for years. The D always carried us, we let them. Now, we have an Offense. Can we ever get in Balance? The Defense is not horrific, but the penalties sure are, and that adds to morass. If the defense plays adequately AND the Offense can put points on the board, AND we don’t sabotage ourselves by unnecessary penalties, then maybe we will have a winning strategy…
by Blackbirdsong on Oct 11, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
but looking at the past two weeks, that’s a huge “if.”
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Ravens are a very good team. But so are the Bengals.
Losing to us does not mean you aren’t still a great team. The Bengals were just better today. How about a 3 team race to the finish?
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 11, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Everyone in the AFC North is good, but us.
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 11, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm taking a week off from this team
Not paying any attention to what we do at all, all the excuses we will make. There is none. We played Billick football today and it was F***ing pitiful. Peace out Beatdown, try to enjoy the week. BullS***
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Oct 11, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nooooo....
come back MaLoR, the team here at The Beatdown needs you!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we need him like a helmet to helmet call
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This team can sure embarass itself sometimes. We should have lost the game by 20, and it was a huge game and a huge loss for us. Coaching staff better be ready to make some improvements and quick.
by math_geek on Oct 11, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
EAT IT! STEELERS RULE!!
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
by Cdsumm on Oct 11, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Act with class would you. We lost to the Bengals as well
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Steeler_ on Oct 11, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh!!! The Bengals beat you too!
We will see Shitzburg in a few weeks!! So eat your lost too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by WHYUS!! on Oct 11, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Cincy. You’re not that good and we’re not that good. Pitt is still the best in the division.
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that good!!!!!
Who in the hell is leading the division? Not Shitzburg!!!!!!! Face it , Ravens or the Bengals are going to take this division. Hopefully the Bengals. Face it, STEaLERS reign is over!!!!!!!!!! Wait until the Brownies beat you!
by WHYUS!! on Oct 11, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im going to reference this comment for later
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Steeler_ on Oct 11, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chill out WHYUS
We got the win. There is no need to act like a punk. You are making all Bengal fans like me look bad. I have little tolerance for the ‘Shitzburg’ or “Stooler” references. We don’t have anything to crow about until we can take it all the way. They did. Both of them, and they deserve our respect. If we deserve it they will respect us too. It is not within their power to just respect us. Respect, by its very nature, has to be earned. I say we earn it before we expect it. Even a hen doesn’t cackle until after the egg is actually laid.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 12, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for speaking up JJ
for decency on SB Nation.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SORRY FOR BEING AN ASS!
and SORRY for the late post of appologies! was gone for a day at work.
by WHYUS!! on Oct 13, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cincy and the Steelers rule at this point. Congrats to both. The Ravens haven’t prevented a game winning final drive in years. That starts with their leadership. Ray Lewis jumped the shark today. I expected a WHOLE lot more from the guy but to go helmet to helmet with Chad on a HUGE down was moronic. At that point, I felt no sympathy for the loss and knew it was coming.
Let’s add this last minute long drive to the long list of disappointing defensive letdowns. Ray is still useless in those situations. He neither stops the run, QB or the pass; simply a scarecrow. Unfortunately, the scarecrow got off his post and commited a personal foul. At least he did something……
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Had Ray held onto that pass that he tipped
there would have been no loss. I said to the guy next to me that the younger Ray catches that interception. Not this time.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AFC North is officially a 3 horse race
Even after the Bengals bet us, I still found it hard to accept them as contenders, but now after beating the Ravens and owning a 3-0 division record, I am sold that this division will be a tough one this year.
Biggest thing now for the Ravens and Steelers is to keep pace. If we cannot split the series’s with the Bengals, their division record speaks for itself.
Still in a state of “wow” right now. I picked the Bengals competitive, but not like this.
Still a long ways to go, but I think I have realised that the division is wide open (except for the Browns. Derek Anderson 2/17……i couldve done better than that)
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Steeler_ on Oct 11, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t give the Bengals too much credit. They had 10 points going into the last 32 seconds. I admit that we suck in the 4th quarters but the Bengals are still smoke and mirrors. Pitt GAVE them the game.
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A good team
finds a way to win. After five games, you gotta look at Cincy differently this year. Just like Denver, you thunk it’s time we all realized they are for real now?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
league parity
With few exceptions (sorry Kyle) most teams have a chance of beating any team on any Sunday. making the jump from a close team to a contending team happens after a few key adjustments on roster or coaching. Downhill movement can happen just as quickly, look at the Titans. As the saying goes “That’s why they play the game”. The AFC north has 3 teams that need to play their best game for 60 minutes to win the close ones. Playing consistently, making the big plays & avoiding penalties are the keys to victory. currently the Ravens are looking for other victories. What kind of statement did Ray & the team make on Bengals last drive? Ray thinks he’s more important than coach Harbaugh, the game & the league. His ego is hurting this team. The momentum has shifted in our division but what is for real is the Ravens are in a tough fight to win it all & have an equal chance to finish 1st. Good luck to all contenders & may the best team win.
Where Have You Gone Johnny U?
by The Exiler on Oct 12, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that's a lot better, Exiler
Good comments and opinions, plus facts to back it up. That hit on 85 killed us but the one on Frank Walker was even worse. At least Ray’s call was pretty obvious, but the penalties have got to stop in key situations or the winning will continue to be harder as the refs are just waiting for us to give them a reason and we just can’t stop it.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DB's and some more ish....
Wasup to all u ravens fans and haters. Ima get right to the point. The ravens Dback core needs some serious help. Chris Carr should not be playing nickel. In the preseason L. Webb showed he can cover. I will be there first one to say, Ray Lewis is also to blame for a dumb penalty. We are in desperate need for a win next week or we will find ourselves in a bad place at the end of the season. Now we know that there are three active teams in the AFC North.
by Raven_all_day on Oct 11, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough Week/ Bye
Ill start analyzing the rest of the season and our chances as being contenders a few weeks after the Bye week. We have Minnestoa next week right after we gave up 130 yds rushing to Benson, now we got Peterson next week. The chances are we are going into the bye week 3-3 then coming out and playing the right now 5-0 Broncos, then the Bengals at Cincy after that, so the way we are playing right now, that means we will be 3-5 through the halfway mark. I will re-evaluate the Ravens in a month and decide if they have a chance at the playoffs. Forget the superbowl talk people, we need to worry about going 8-8 first.
by ShaneOmacDaddy on Oct 11, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Without a solid pass rush
our DB’s will get hung out to dry by the opposition. Get a better pass rush instead of allowing the QB to sit and wait and you’ll see how much better our DB’s can be.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can already see Favre pumping faking Ray out of his shoes before dumping it off to Chester or Peterson. If we can’t hang with Ben’s pumps then forget about Favre. We will also be down with self pity. I see a frustrated Detroit type game with massive penalities and defeatest attitude. We’ll rebound but we need to go down this rod first.
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok....
Today was awful. Probably one of the worst games I have seen us play in awhile. You know what though, there is way too much negativity about this team. The bengals are feeling a little success because they are not used to winning. Let them have their fun, we will see what happens by the end of this year. They outplayed us today and deserved the win. However, we are all entitled to an off day. Lets hope this was our off day. Going off of our reactions after the game, the team knows it was our fault and we got out played. They seem full with anger and ready to get back at there. That is a good step that we are not pointing the finger at anyone but ourselves. I dont see why everyone is being so negative about a defense. They played their ass off today and gave us a chance to win until they committed those stupid penalties. It was poor execution all around and we missed gaither alot. Oher did an amazing job but on that right side, there seemed to be a little more pressure and flacco never seemed comfortable. If joe completes that pass to clayton at the end we are 4-1 and everything is ok. We are a good team who just needs to learn to close. We will gather our whits and bring it together against an overrated vikings team and head to our bye and regroup. Lets not forget, we started last year 2-3 and still managed to get to the afc championship game. We are just 2 or 3 unlucky/bad plays from being undefeated. Be upset, but lets not bail on the game. We will be ok
by ryantz on Oct 11, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you ryantz.
I am sure that Ray is feeling really bad right now. He is a smart player and tough one. He, I am sure, understands that he just got carried away. A knowledgeable Bengal fan knows that the next game against you very well could have an entirely different out come. It is the sand with the second Steeler game. We are by no means over confident even if some of our more “enthusiastic” fans might make it seem like we are.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 12, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those Red Zone INT's by Flacco have killed us the past two years.
He still has to learn that he is not as good as some of the hype and can’t just throw it up and expect guys to llways come down with the ball. Those picks at the end of the first half in NE and the first drive against Cincy killed us, just killed us.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 11, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We don’t have smart leadership on D. Leadership is showing your team how to succeed and overcome adversity. We do neither when it counts. We are shokingly undisciplined with the veterans we have on D. Maybe Dallas is a good fit for Ray. Maybe if he would stop hugging all the Miami players he might pull the rest of the team together. Maybe Zeus needs to dot his eye again.
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you give up on Ray you are making a big...huge...mistake.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 12, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
its obviously not time to give up on ray. But he needs to take ownership of the recent under performance, especially that helmet-popper on ochocinco. Obviously a very stupid and preventable penalty.
I think if there is one positive we could take away from this game its that we got embarrassed. And you know Ray doesn’t like to be embarrassed. Hopefully that serves as some sort of a positive motivator from here on out. The problem is, I’m not sure that Foxworth and Carr can ever acheive the swagger and refuse-to-lose mentality that a guy like Ray has. I just think they both plain suck, and they might be feeling a little inferior following that expose on Sunday. When a player starts feeling inferior—watch out. Other players can smell it and the weakness will spiral out of control.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Oct 12, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im rays biggest fan but i am loyal to the ravens as a whole. i don’t think anyone deserves a pass and it is far better to utilize resources that will make the whole team better and not just reward someone for 2000. i have given up on ray against the better teams. it might be play calling but he does very little in most game winning drives against us. from what i hear he has a lot of input in the play calling. i think he may actually be calling the shots for the D-Coord.
by raven on Oct 13, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course he has say
just like the QB can call an audible, so can Ray, ….and he is usually right!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 13, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
usually right? against who? the browns. put an above average qb on the other side of the line and he’ll spin himself into a hole. if ray stops favre in ANY way i’ll pull a MaLor and quit writing for a week. no tears please if that happens.
by raven on Oct 13, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what killed us on that drive was that stupid shovel pass...
what are we thinking when we have willis and we are in the red zone. give the man the rock
by ryantz on Oct 11, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
last ravens shovel pass:
tony banks to ? on the 1 yard line. fumble. think it was home against jacksonville and we came back to win with the Sharo pass.
by raven on Oct 13, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 points are not bad to leave a drive with
Those three points would have been great to have later in that game
by ryantz on Oct 11, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, especially on that first drive
Too many Red Zone interceptions, Joe have killed us the past two weeks.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i call those 50/50 balls. shovel passes and bombs. it basically says you can’t win straight up. that is where cam is mistaken.
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
palmer says the 7 he gave reed wouldn’t have been bad either….
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for the sake of the team and getting this monkey off our back, we might want to go with Troy on the speedy Minn. turf.
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you cannot be serious.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Oct 12, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why not. gaithers hurt, flaccos making bad decisions and we have the Heisman on the bench. give joe a breather and let troy have some snaps. maybe he can sramble a bit and mix up the passes. use all your players. QB’s are just players.
by raven on Oct 13, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh right, the Heisman winner
and since when does winning the Heisman make you a better pro? Wanna see the list of Heisman winning QB’s? Didn’t think so.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 13, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
flaccos a far better qb but give him a break and let him think about his shit red zone passes : ) he’s regressing right now. let’s stop the bleeding and regroup. our qb in this game will need to scramble and get out of the pocket so i am just saying Troy should get some reps in some form.
by raven on Oct 13, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps in the Wildcat
and as a decoy as well. But ONLY that, not as a “replacement/upgrade.”
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 14, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
New Blood
Time to get some new blood on D, and let’s re-evaluate the D-coordinator before next year. Lots of changes to adjust to. We finally have a QB, but lose Rex Ryan and some key players that went with him. This is not the 2001 Defense anymore. They don’t still Rule the Roost.
by Blackbirdsong on Oct 11, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You still have a very good D who just had a bad day Sunday
I expect you to finish the season in the top 10 in both O and D. Expecting more than that on a regular basis is just unrealistic.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 12, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like this guy
i think you’re right. But look out for some shakeups on defense midseason—Harbaugh won’t permit this type of suckery.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Oct 12, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As disappointed as I am.
I cant believe what Im reading, has every single person completely written us off at this point. We played horribly, Im talking horrible and ended up losing with 20 something seconds left, its not like we got destroyed or we played our best game and still lost. We didnt show up, plain and simple. But as “fans,” we need to calm down and realize that its week 5, not 15, this game was not a make-or-break, there is a lot of football to be played.
There werent many things to get excited about, but here’s my good list:
1) Ed Reed has officially found his groove, bad news.
2) Ray Rice should be mentioned when speaking about explosiveness. He’s great.
3) Ladarius Webb is an upgrade, a huge upgrade.
4) We will be seeing less of Chris Carr.
5) 2 words: Jarrett Johnson (amazing).
6) The fact that we are taking complete blame for the loss, we came into the game feeling like we were robbed of a loss and that we were (are) better than our record shows, well we lost focus somewhere along the line. This time around theres noone to blame except ourselves, and going into Minnesota next week; we need to be as grounded as possible.
Its hard to look on the bright side after 2 straight heart-breaking lossed but I refuse to jump on the hate wagon, so lets go Ravens!
Scott Hines
by shines on Oct 11, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All great points, but
until we can win the late close game, like we haven’t been able to do this year and all of last year, we are exactly what they said we are, pretenders.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The playcalling (again)...
…was definitely suspect (again). Is Cam Cameron having some sort of identity crisis? Last week it was pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass. This week, it’s run, run, run, run, run, run. We NEED to establish an offensive identity, one that’s preferably a balance of the punishing ground game most of us are used to seeing, along with a strong dose of the aerial firepower that we were just getting used to through the first few games of the season.
And while we’re on the subject of playcalling, is anyone else still wondering why Willis McGahee had exactly ONE touch today? I don’t understand how you don’t get your team’s leading scorer the ball. And where did Derrick Mason disappear to today? When was the last time he was held without a catch? He’s been in this league a long time, and there’s not much of an excuse for him not getting open even once. The Ravens’ vertical game was pretty much non-existent today, and his disappearance certainly didn’t help any.
by justlaxn0 on Oct 11, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That three runs and out in the third quarter was unbelieveable
What was that all about.? We had the chance to go up by 10 at that point and just gtave it back to them and they went on to score the next series.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bengals Fan here
Awesome game. The Ravens and Bengals both played a very physical game. And Ed Reed almost won the game by himself. He’s not human. And the Stadium sounded like it was crazy loud. Great game, and we are glad to steal this one on the road. We see these 2 teams match up again in a few weeks. Who dey!?
"Ghiaciuc's play was a distraction"
by firstPick on Oct 11, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyone needs to RELAX
Yes, the Bengals are a good team, but so are the Steelers and the Ravens, who trail Cinci by only a single game. The Steelers had 2 straight tough losses just like the Ravens, but were able to bounce back in a big way in the third game. What Baltimore does against Minny next week will determine the outcome of their season. As for the Bengals, I have a feeling they’ll come back down to earth soon. Us and the Browns had them on the ropes, but simply didn’t execute when we needed to. The Packers and Ravens could certainly have won their games angainst Cinci, too. Their next four games are HOU, CHI, BAL, and @PIT(the Steelers aren’t going to let the Bungles steal two from them). Chances are they’ll go 2-2 in this stretch, and things could look very different come November…
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 11, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Good man. The loss was easier to deal with because I had to go to work at 3:30 and so I missed the 4th quarter. I listened on the radio, and it hurt. My head was down for a little while there but I pulled it together and realized how early it still is, and I couldnt agree more with everything youve just stated, I mean we were 2-3 going into week 7 last season and we turned it around. Its way too early for all the crying.
Scott Hines
by shines on Oct 11, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kinda disagree on one thing
I don’t think the Bengals are the Bungles anymore. Time will tell but I think we will get better as the season and by the last 4 games or so will be playing some real solid quality ball. I agree about the 2-2 in the next 4 games being entirely possible. We still need to learn how to handle success. We always seem to play up or down to the level of our opponent and that can really come back to bite you. Hopefully we will mature out of the as the season goes on and make this a real 3 horse race. We aren’t quite there yet.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 12, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You certainly are so far
3-0 in the division and if you go on to finish even 4-2 that’s a decent playoff shot.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old ways returning
To reach the next level the Ravens need to learn a few lessons & make some adjustments to the “Raven Way”. Peter Schmuck wrote this morning that the Ravens need to forget about what happened last week with the penalties in New England & be prepared to accept a few penalties as the price they pay for the Raven way of “violent football” as Suggs describes it. Ray Lewis must have been thinking that when he cheap shoted Chad O & cost the Ravens dearly on the last Bengal scoring drive. Schmuck asked for it, Ray delivered & the Ravens lost. Good teams outgrow this behavior & don’t self destruct on stupid penalties. Ravens have a history of this because playing thug football leads to these outcomes. Complaining about the rules & pointing fingers as was done last week does not enable a team to learn from their mistakes. The old ways are returning & the Ravens have taken a step backward. I wonder if they will ever become an elite team playing “The Raven Way”?
Where Have You Gone Johnny U?
by The Exiler on Oct 11, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Peter Schmuck "
peter hehehehe
Schmuck hehehehe
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 12, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Teams need to outgrow this type of behavior"
Hasn’t happened since I’ve been watching (or since ’96)!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This kind of attitude is a double edged sword
Ray plays on the edge. That is what makes him so good but it can only once in a while be a negative. Frankly I hope the Bengals can get just a little of what Ray brings as do many defenses in this league. When he stays on the edge, which is most of the time, he is great but when he goes over it is bad and very noticeable. He is doing the very thng you guys have cheered him for and has helped the outstanding play – he just stepped over the edge. Give him a break. I am sure that today he realizes it and will be the positive force you are used to the rest of the season. I see the same type of behavior in Rey Malaluga and frankly I am happy to see it.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 12, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scary thing is...
…we were two big plays away from being shut out at home. Ouch.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very, painfully, true
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Oct 12, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too many questions
Both about the team and the refs. What happened to the five yards they stole from us after the fumble review? How was that one play not offensive interrference when the Bengals WR turned his back on the ball and grabbed the Raven’s arm? Sorry those two plays I think were game changing calls/missed calls…
by Asmodeus1971 on Oct 11, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not that it really mattered, but
did you see the Bengals hit Chris Carr before he fielded the punt? What was that non-call?
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually that was a really good job of missing Carr.
by archon095 on Oct 12, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he did tough him. It was a missed penalty.
He did try hard to miss him and almost completely did but he did nusde him and that is a penalty. It should have been called. On this one the Raven fans are right on. The Bengals caught a break there.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 12, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raven Way-
Play a good game for 3.5 quarters and then beg for a win while imploding. Beat bad teams. Lose to good teams. Split with average teams. Maybe get a Wild Card. Lose to good teams.
To those who are calling out the critics- We are not bitching about this one game! We are just tired of excuse after excuse after experiment after experiment. We have given up two 400+ yard games already. We have lost two last second games because of stupidity and lack of focus.
Raven fans don’t hate this team, we hate the way they are losing. Every game 1 or 2 guys take it upon themselves to act like a-holes and sacrifice their team with 15 yard penalties. When that person is your “leader” it becomes downright irresponsible and worthy of criticism.
In his meeting on the field in NE Ray shouted, “ain’t no team can play with us for 4 quarters…never have.” Sheeeesh. Time to put the drum down and man up.
by raven on Oct 11, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ray is right
teams can’t stay with us for all four quarters, just the last one, which is the one that seems to matter most.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MAYDAY!!!
Ray Lewis may think the defense is the same with out Rex Ryan, but It ISN’T!!!
The last two games have shown that there are holes the size of the TITANIC in our run andpass defense.
If it isn’t fixed, and SOON. we’ll be #3 in the division.
PATHETIC…
by JP19901 on Oct 12, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not Rex
This team is different personnel wise, and the DC doesn’t make that much or quick of a difference. You’re giving Ryan way too much credit. Our defenses couldn’t beat the Steelers, Pats and Colts under Rex, so why is everybody glorifying him now that he’s gone? Those comments just get me riled up whenever I hear them. It’s a personnel issue, not coaching!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ravens are not a good team...
Being a HUGE fan, I was sooo disappointed to see how lousy the team played. The offense was anemic and the defense porous. At halftime, we had 115 yds,, Cincy 230….and that was how it went.
The defense is not good at all…we ALWAYS give up leads at the end of the game…look at Tenn. and Pitt home games from last year.
The offense was on shut-off mode…felt like the days of Billick…couldn’t do anything and didn’t try anything.
This team is average…maybe 9-7, at best…we have Min, Chicago, Indy, Pitt (2), Denver, and Cincy again…who hear really thinks this team can play with the best? Come on…wake up! Things need to change fast or the season is already over…we have the hardest schedule in the division and we’re already behind…
BTW, why do the Ravens always have more injuries than anyone else…last year we led the league in starters on IR…
by Ravenator on Oct 12, 2009 3:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you think the Ravens are a bad team you don't know much about football
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 12, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps not a bad team, ...
….just a good one that played really bad on this day. And had a tough defense to play against and a pretty solid offense as well.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jungle...
Wrong…I know quite a bit about football and the Raven’s performance was dreadful…if they are a good team, they need to play like it…as for now, they’re average, at best..
by Ravenator on Oct 12, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At 3-2 we are still above average
for now….
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 13, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bummer ravenator ......
I was hoping for your sake that ignorance was the reason you are dumping on a team that has given you so many great games and seasons. Ignorance can be fixed. Your team deserves loyalty win or lose. As a Bengal fan I can tell you from experience that victories are sweeter and losses more tolerable for the loyal fan. I am an old guy and it took me years to realize but this same concept works in life too. It is ok to be critical and it is ok to express it but this team has given you so many thrills that throwing them under the bus is unjust to them. I do understand however that you are probably just angry right now.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 13, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hold up!
Man, Ravens fans are freakin impatient… We were even booing yesterday on a 3 and out. I had guys around me yelling how Flacco sucks and the defense is terrible, etc… I am thinking of selling my tickets to the next home game because I was so annoyed with the drunk idiots sitting behind me. The worst is bitching about the refs when Ray Lewis took Chad Johnson’s head off.
OK… Just for the record, I was as ticked off as anyone yesterday about losing. But it was just one of those days. You can’t really blame one thing. It was a total team effort. But, they have had a chance to win in the last two games.
The Rex Ryan comment… Isn’t he the defensive Coordinator that let Pittsburgh and Tennessee drive down the field at the end to win the game last year? I had that same awful feelings in the those games.
Hats off to Cincy for a well played game. Their defense was a different Cincy DE than we have ever seen. They played better than us and we still should have won the game.
by lespaul83 on Oct 12, 2009 8:32 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well said
I hate the whining complainers that say the refs gave them the game all the time and forgetting what we did one week after playing great they always say we suck. It is a tough game and no one lies down in the NFL (other than Cleveland, St. Louis and Oakland!).
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
its still early. the real problem is that we’re in real danger of falling to 3-3 next weekend.
but remember how it was around this time last year when we lost a close on to tenn, then got blown out by Indy, and Flacco threw 3 picks and all the fans thought the season was lost? You guys have short memories. Winning cures everything, and we will start winning again. It’d be great if we could do that in Minny next week and drop one unbeaten team off that list.
"I know where you're at, man. You had it all, and now it's gone. It's torn a hole in your soul bigger than my Escalade. So you turned to the drugs, the alcohol. Pornography, free-basing with OJ, human trafficking, dog fights slash orgies... darkness."
-- Craig Robinson as Reg Mackworthy in Season 1, Episode 5 of Eastbound & Down
by jackmca on Oct 12, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true.
The Vikings can beat anyone and will beat most teams handily. Getting beat by them is nothing to be ashamed of but the could very well lose to you too. You guys are one of about 4-5 teams that can take them. I’m not so sure the Bengals can. I have them down as a loss on my schedule.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 12, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Air Has Been Let Out
Well, thanks defense. Thanks, run-stoppers for returning to futility. Thanks, d-backs for playing like you are in high school. I don’t care where Foxworth is from, his position needs to be re-filled.
I have just made plans for next Sunday, and it doesn’t involve watching this major letdown of a team. Call me fairweather, but losing the way we have 2 weeks in a row just annoys me.
And this is a personal message to Roger Goodell: Stay Out of Baltimore. I will go to jail for punching you in the face as hard as I can, and do so with a smile on my face!
by EutawStTimmy on Oct 12, 2009 9:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't panic!
Just like a few weeks ago when everyone was picking us for the Super Bowl, don’t panic and say the season is lost. Remember this – we were in both the games we lost until the last minute and were a few plays from winning them both. Yes the Defense let us down that last drive. I laugh when people say Ray is useless in those situations cause I remember a certain 4th and 2 play by Ray against San Diego that saved the game! You do all remember that right? Should I post the link of that play on here as a reminder?? Just as last season we tend to let opponents march down the field on those last drives – Pittsburgh anyone? Until the D stops those we will never win the big games. This game was not about the last drive – it was about poor defensive backs, penalties, and as always letting the other QB have all day to throw. Why is it we just can’t get those star QB’s out of their comfort zone? Personally I think we should be playing a 4-3 line. Whatever happened to Defensive Ends who get to the QB?? The other reason we lost is because we went back to the Kyle Boller offense. 186 yards passing, jump balls, interceptions, ineffectiveness. Look at it this way – we had the ball with a few minutes left – we were basically 2 first downs from ending that game and we couldn’t get them. We had a 4 point lead and needed 2 more first downs to kill the clock and we choked – this is easily as big a deal as the defense giving up a TD. Had the offense done their job the D would never have been in that situation. As long as we stay close in these type games we still have a chance to win them.
by Rayfan1 on Oct 12, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On the winning TD play
Carson just did a good job. He looked to his left and Ray bit as Chad and Coles were over there. He guessed wrong and that opened things up for Caldwell. Carson threw a perfect pass. Ray had to make a decision and he as well as any other MLB would have made the same one the next time too. It was just the right call at the right time and was executed to perfection. Carson is back.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 12, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ALL's Not Lost Ravens Fans!
I watched the entire game and was very happy to see my Bengals win one against a GOOD Ravens team. I cant believe how many negative comments I have seen here, it looks like the Bengals Jungle board from last year! You guys have a great team, the Bengals were just playing out of their minds to beat you guys because football is a game of emotion and it doesnt get any more emotional than playing for someone who just lost their wife (my prayers are with Coach Z and his family). The Bengals won against the highest scoring team in the NFL (I wish we could say that about our supposed great offense!), and scored late because of some bone-headed plays on some of your D-leaders. If Ray-Ray doesnt take Ocho’s head off then the game is over! (Thanks Ray). Your D is getting a little older now but they still kept the Bengals from scoring and only lost it when they decided to get too physical (if that is possible). Believe me, the team the Bengals fear most is the Ravens, not the Squealers. The Ravens are far more balanced this year than ever before. By the way, Flacco is the real deal and we just came up with a very good game against him. He is only in his 2nd year and after having gone through 2 DECADES of losing before we got ourselves a good QB I know a good QB when I see one. Believe me, the fans here in Cincy cant wait to go to Pitt and beat them again, but I doubt anyone is looking forward to having the Ravens come to Cincy to get revenge. Keep your heads up Ravens fans and I have a feeling we will be playing a 3rd time this season when it really means something!
by BigJade1 on Oct 12, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Believe me, the fans here in Cincy cant wait to go to Pitt and beat them again"
you’re freakin’ delusional dude. Come to Pittsburgh and see what happens. They’re the reigning champs for a reason.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 12, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Believe me we knowledgable Bengas fans know it will be a war.
No Bengal fan I know thinks we won’t have a hard time winning the second one against the Steelers of the Ravens. Most of us are just glad we can compete favorably with the two teams which have basically ruled the division for 10 years or so. We just want play you very competitively with you and have a realistic chance to win. The actual victory is only a goal that we are striving for. Beating either team twice in a season is not out of the question but a bit much to just expect.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 12, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JUNGLEJOHN , you're alright man
We should respect every opponent. It’s just that the bengals have been such a laughing stock for so long. They have been so pathetic this decade. But they now possess a winning record. I will try to be respectful of them in your presence. They did win, and I won’t be the one to try to diminish that. They made just enough plays to win the game.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 14, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did win, and I won’t be the one to try to diminish that.
It’s just that the bengals have been such a laughing stock for so long. They have been so pathetic this decade.
Old habits die hard.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on Oct 15, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I will try to be respectful"
they key word there is try. You go ahead and try to be respectful to the bengals and see how easy it is
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 15, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is Webb?
And how come Carr is still in there? Mr. Rodgers could play better coverage while tying his shoes and putting on yet another blue sweater. He may be the WORST nickel and dime player in the league. Frank Walker’s supposedly Pass Interference was one of the best plays I have seen him made, but the refs might just know about Frank and flagged him. How the hell can you call that on 3rd and 16. That was a GREAT defense by Frank.
Cam Cameron had quite possibly a 2004 Billick type game. No balance at all. How did Mason not have one freaking catch? Are you serious? Your best WR who is maybe the best route runner in the league does not even get a LOOK? We must have dumped the ball off to McClain and Rice 20 times that game, and made what looked like a last option screen pass, our first option every freaking time. And you know what, the Cinci LB were there every time.
And that pass to Clayton at the end, which could have sealed the game, not the right play on 3rd and long. That was the FIRST deep pass that Joe threw all day. He was not in rhythm, and over threw a wide open Mark.
We lost because of one person, MARVIN LEWIS. He played better Raven football than we did, and that is bad. He got right in our faces from the start of the game, and we were backing off the whole time. He ran it down our throats often and early guess what, it worked! Cedric Benson, are you serious? Ray Lewis, you really going to let some wash-up who was just getting arrested 2 years ago for being so plastered that he fought cops? Pathetic Ray. You are looking like an average LB at best. Don’t let that play in SD fool any of you. Ray missed so many gaps yesterday, it was disgusting.
I am disgusted to be a Ravens fan today. I never expected a Billick game on offense from Cam. The Defense did good, but looked terrible because of Cam’s brain farts. He never had balance, after we asked for it. Never established the run, just like we havent at all this whole season. Still thinks Joe needs to throw it 30-40 times and hope Rice breaks a 40 yarder so Cam can look good. Our offense put up 7 points and the defense bailed them out int he beginnning, yet we still insisted on going 3 and out half the time and putting our defense back on the field against a strong Cinci offense.
Next week is make or break. We lose, I think we are finished.
by Joe Flaccid on Oct 12, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
POST GAME ASSESSMENT
HEY GUYS, WE PLAYED BUT WE DIDN’T FINISH!!!
WE NEED TO STAY FOCUSED. WE SHOULD BE 5-O RIGHT NOW. I’M NOT GOING TO DWELL ON THAT. IT’S TIME TO MAN UP,STEP UP AND TAKE IT THE REST OF THE WAY. YOU’RE STILL MY FAVORITE TEAM AND ALWAYS WILL BE WIN OR LOSE!!! IAM THE ULTIMATE RAVENMANIAC!!! FIRST THINGS FIRST. LET’S TAKE TO THE VIKINGS!!!!! GO RAVENS!!!!!
by rico suave' on Oct 12, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats the spirit! Now just beat the damn Steelers OK?
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 12, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JUNGLEJOHN
Youre a damn good man. If you ever decide to take the trip to a Baltimore game (if you havent already) be sure to let us know. You my friend are more than welcome here. Thanks for all the praising and whatnot, it says something about the guy who can look past gloating in order to keep our heads up. You are the man!
Scott Hines
by shines on Oct 12, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, if you come here again,
ticket’s on me.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
careful, he’ll ask for somethin’ later
by raven on Oct 13, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks I appreciate the sentiment but
All I want is for you guys to beat the damn Steelers. Once would be good – twice would be great!
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 13, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will be a great day when.....
Treating people with at least a modicum of respect is not praise worthy but rather common place and routine. Root for your team, talk a little smack laugh and shake hands afterward, have a beer together and argue about why we won or lost. There are a lot of things more important than football. As a Bengal fan that is a good thing.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 13, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tell that to the Dawg Pound and the Steel Curtains
and you DO know what I mean!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 13, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have a point Bruce
But lets just start here. We can’t control others action – only our own. IMO too many people equate smack, screaming and pounding their fists as manliness when it generally is quite the opposite. Too many people equate kindness to weakness when it is quite the opposite. The best way to handle it, IMO, is to behave with true strength here and let Steeler Nation’s lesser components continue to live in their delusion. Sooner or later their knuckles will get sore from dragging on the ground. The toughest guy I ever met was also one of the kindest guys I ever knew. If you are looking for strong – look for kind as strong is usually hiding behind it.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 13, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
would you even still hang around here had we won on sunday? I don’t think so.
Limp and dangling.
by Joe Flaccid on Oct 13, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flaccid - I don't know and you don't either
I was here even before the season started and I will be here as long as the exchange is worthy of my time. You would be well served not to assume that everyone thinks like you.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 13, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong Flaccid
JJ is a class guy and knows his football. He is even a bit sympathetic about our Ravens and not gloating like some other clowns. Give him a pass and respect. Thanks.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 14, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reading through a few of these comments, it sure seems like there was some gloating.
http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2009/10/9/1077809/how-to-beat-the-cincinnati-bengals#comments
But who wouldn’t gloat after seeing his team actually look half decent after 15 years of turmoil?
Limp and dangling.
by Joe Flaccid on Oct 14, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, can we do Hands Across America now?
by raven on Oct 13, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What many people know deep down but often forget
A quietly spoken well founded truth stops a ranting argument dead in its tracks like a freight train into a mountain side.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 13, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
another question
how much do you think there is a falloff at the LB position with the loss of scott? he’s tearing up the field in new york and i don’t really think gooden is close to being on the level he was as a player.
by brandone on Oct 12, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not too much of a letdown
but we have had a tough time getting pressure on the QB and Bart wasn’t part of that.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 12, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no comparison
Scott was superior…so was Thomas…we’ve lost good LBs the last few years…regardless, the personnel is about the same…we can’t hold opponents in the last two minutes…last year it was Pitt and Tenn…this year, Cincy, so far…
We need to learn to get a lead and hold the ball and NOT rely on a porous defense…
by Ravenator on Oct 12, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry but you forget
we lost to the better teams with them as well, especially Bart.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 13, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO you miss Leonhard.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 13, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need to get this off my chest
PREVENT PREVENTS YOU FROM WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ray Rice is so agile. He's a whole new breed for agile you need a new word to describe his agility... UBER-AGILITY!
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 12, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Force the QB to throw the ball earlier
it’s risky but worth the reward. Besides, we wouldn’t complain if they at least tried it!
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Oct 13, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PREVENT=Puss Coaches who say they won’t run it and then run it because they are hyperventilating in clowe games. mattison or whatever his name is sucks and belongs in A ball.
by raven on Oct 13, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it’s like the coach overslept the father of a player stepped in
by raven on Oct 13, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Prevent is useless
Must agree. Whenever we go into prevent defense we basically give up 15 yard pass after 15 yard pass. You stop a team all day then change your plan the last two minutes and they eat us alive. Where is the pressure on the QB?? Any DB will look lame if you give a superstar QB 15 seconds to throw the ball. Somebody on the line needs to step it up. Where is Suggs in all this? We need to start getting real Defensive Ends and not make everyone we draft into a DE/LB. Put Paul Kruger on the end and say “Go get the QB kid!” Watch what happens! Carson Palmer barely had to worry back there in his pocket. Scare the QB and he will make mistakes.
by Rayfan1 on Oct 13, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Turtle Sluggs is trying to get his big ass around the end but can’t.
by raven on Oct 13, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs












