Dawkins or Polamalu?

*NOTE - I've purposely left out Ed Reed to account for any biases. I am making similar posts on Behind the Steel Curtain and Bleeding Green Nation leaving out their respective safeties as well. I'm looking for honest opinions, so for the sake of integrity, I implore you NOT to go to the other sites and vote.
Both are probable future Hall of Fame and game-changing safeties. Along with the aforementioned Reed, these two make up a triumvirate of preeminent safeties in the NFL. So, given the choice would you take for your team RIGHT NOW? Disregard ages and future production, as I'm only worried about the present.
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Right now?
I’d take Troy, but only if he played opposite Reed. Reed would start over Polamalu.
by BAL_Hawk on
Jan 5, 2009 9:54 AM EST
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They play diff positions/styles
Within 15 yards of LOS Troy > Reed
Beyond 15 yards of LOS Reed > Troy
Put Troy at SS and Reed at FS and the Defense would be spectacular to watch…
As for Dawkins, he was a great safety, but even in his prime, he wasn’t in the class of these 2 guys.
by _ET_ on
Jan 5, 2009 11:13 AM EST
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They will be on the field together
playing next to each other in the Pro Bowl.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Jan 5, 2009 10:19 PM EST
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+1
I’m neither a Steelers or a Ravens fan but those two guys are pretty much my favorite players in football. No team trusts a player more than the Ravens trust Ed Reed. He’s put back in the cover one on third and long playing center field more often than anyone in football. Nick Collins can be comparable to the type of player Ed is, but is still far away from the level Ed has played at for so long.
Yeah, Dawkins is great but he really doesn’t compare to either of these guys.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on
Jan 6, 2009 2:57 AM EST
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Really?
When Dawkins was in his Prime, he was most def in the class of ED and Troy. Go back and watch some highlights of this guy. He was all over the place just like Troy and was also able to pick off passes and score touchdowns just like Reed.
FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Benji5203 on
Jan 6, 2009 4:38 PM EST
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I voted for Troy...
but how old are both players?
Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...
Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.
-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"
by dayzd toe on
Jan 5, 2009 10:56 AM EST
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That's where the greatest discrepancy lies.
Dawkins is 35 and Polamalu is 27. That’s why I wanted to disregard future potential, because it would be lopsided.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt
by Daniel52 on
Jan 5, 2009 11:49 AM EST
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Dawkins is a bigger hitter. Troy positions himself better. Toss up but Troy is a big reason the Steelers D is better than the Eagles.
by raven on
Jan 5, 2009 12:42 PM EST
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He's one of the reasons the Steelers are better than the Eagles on defense
but to me its no contest. The Steelers have the best defense in football, and for me second is relatively far off.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on
Jan 6, 2009 2:59 AM EST
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Hate to say it but...
no question it’s gotta be Troy. Him and Reed are in a class by themselves at either safety positions.
by DT711 on
Jan 5, 2009 5:21 PM EST
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Troy over Dawkins
I have loved watching Dawkins at the safety position for years and his leadership qualities are uncanny, reminds me of a Ray Lewis in terms of the fire they both bring too the game and their team mates. I will always be a Dawkins fan but when it comes too pure athleticism I have too take Troy. For obvious reasons I am not much of a Troy fan but I have always respected his presence in the backfield as well as his run stopping abilities. I have too admit though that Brian has been stepping up his play tremendously since the Dallas game and is only peaking at the right time in the season too do so. Brian’s experience is very valuable but how long does he really have? Troy gets the edge for me because of youth which gives him more upside over Brian in the long run.
by purpleonblack86 on
Jan 5, 2009 5:34 PM EST
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That is an excellent, well thought out answer.
Thank you very much!
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt
by Daniel52 on
Jan 5, 2009 7:14 PM EST
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mark the calendar..we have a “well thought out answer”
by raven on
Jan 7, 2009 6:05 PM EST
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Dawkins was the first to shatter a glass backboard on national tv so… : )
by raven on
Jan 5, 2009 6:50 PM EST
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Is that your nick name at the Pink Hippo Rexx?
by raven on
Jan 7, 2009 6:06 PM EST
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I am sorry to say it but......
I would take Bob Sanders over both Troy and Brian. I know, Sanders has had some health issues, but when that man was in there for the Colts in their Superbowl year, he was insane.
Besides Ray Lewis, I feel that Bob Sanders is the most sure-fire tackler in this game. One on one, he will make it every time. I can only imagine him and Reed next to each other.
I have always wanted the Ravens to get a guy with Dreadlocks.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning
by Mr MaLoR on
Jan 5, 2009 7:49 PM EST
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Saying that Bob Sanders has had some health issues is the understatement of the new year. My girlfriend is a Colts fan, and all I hear week in and week out is how he won’t be playing yet again. He’s definitely a play maker when he’s in the game, but you can’t count on the guy actually being there. In 2004, he missed several games because of foot and knee injuries. In 2006, he only played four regular season games because of his knee. This season, he missed games early and late. He has yet to complete a full, 16-game season.
If you’re picking Sanders as your all-star safety, make sure you have an all-star backup, too.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on
Jan 5, 2009 11:39 PM EST
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Bob Sanders only has to cover half the field
on a large majority of his snaps. Ed Reed frequently covers the entire field. Polamalu definitely has more range than Sanders, and is more explosive as well.
As great a player Bob Sanders is when healthy, he’s slightly overrated and it should have been Albert Haynesworth winning defensive player of the year in 2007.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on
Jan 6, 2009 3:03 AM EST
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I think the reason why Bob Snaders gets injuried so much is because of the way he Tackles. He dives stright at the person head 1st taking there legs from under them. He is not a Fundamental wrap up tackler like Ray Lewis. He brings down the ball carrier just like every other DB in the game. Im surprised that no one has hurdle this guy yet. I do admit that he makes alot of plays at the point of attack.
FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Benji5203 on
Jan 6, 2009 4:30 PM EST
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If that’s why he’s always injured, why do the colts always say it’s knee and ankle injuries?
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on
Jan 6, 2009 10:35 PM EST
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Well diving your self at full speed towards a 230pound RB will take their tolls on your entire body. Maybe a linemen rolled on him or somthin. He cant get hurt from no contact so somthing had to have happened when making a tackle or block.
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by Benji5203 on
Jan 7, 2009 2:47 AM EST
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Just off the top of my head, I can think of two non-contact related injuries. This season, Champ Bailey tore something in his leg or pelvis (I forget exactly what happened) and went out for a while just by running down the field. Also, a couple of years ago, back when Medicare McNair was playing for the Titans, he pulled something in his leg by slowly walking backwards after throwing a pass. Weirdest thing I’ve ever seen.
I guess when you’re as injury-prone as McNair, Champ, and Sanders are, it just doesn’t take much. Being that I don’t actually know much about the circumstances surrounding Bob’s injuries, I feel pretty confident in saying that at least two or three of them have come from incidents involving the sports media sucking him off every two to three days.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on
Jan 7, 2009 6:46 AM EST
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Both are good, but...
…while I know you were not including Reed in the equation, he is stilllheads above both and is the best safety in the history of the game, even mentioned as such by the Miami sports talk radio today. Currently, he is also the best individual player in the entire NFL on both sides of the ball, as he is so much better at what he does than anyone at his position.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Jan 5, 2009 10:22 PM EST
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Reed is, as we all could've guessed, winning handily
But there are some interesting arguments being made across all three sites. I really appreciate all of the informed, well-written explanations.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt
by Daniel52 on
Jan 6, 2009 1:53 AM EST
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reed would have a tougher time sticking guys at the line….Troy and Brian are bigger.
by raven on
Jan 5, 2009 10:38 PM EST
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Dawkins is a replica of Rodney Harrison
If you want a comparison for Reed, the only other safety in the history of the NFl that is up there with him is the one and only Ronnie Lott. That dude chose to have part of his pinky cut off so he could not miss a game rather than have surgery and miss a couple of weeks! WTF!!!
Rexx
by Rexx on
Jan 6, 2009 1:00 PM EST
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I must respectfully disagree, Rexx
Ronnie Lott was the full package. A safety with a linebacker’s mentality (and hitting ability) but who could also play the pass.
Reed is the best coverage safety in the game, no doubt. But as far as comparing him to Lott, I don’t think that’s fair. He just doesn’t have the physical stature to play like him.
Reed is unique, 100%, and will probably go down as the only safety in the same league as Lott. He’s the biggest playmaker on defense, no question, as well.
by NoCal-SteelCity on
Jan 13, 2009 2:16 PM EST
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if reed was a real man he’s play both safety and receiver… like i would.
by raven on
Jan 6, 2009 2:35 PM EST
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Reed better than Polamalu?
I can’t say that he is…..it is uncomparable.
Reed is a FS and plays back like 90% of the time. He is a great safety but he is making these plays against mediocre quarterbacks, Chad pennington, David Gerrard, Kolb (Philly). He is still the best FS but I think everyone is taking him to another level only because of his recent play against some pretty mediocre teams. He does his job well which is protect the deep ball but doesn’t play one on one coverage hardly at all. He also doesn’t come up for run support or play in the box.
Polamalu plays EVERYWHERE. he literally covers the entire field from the backfield to the frontfield? anyways he can play deep and in the box, match up against any reciever or running back, blitz, and recover, he does everything. He is also key in stopping the run. He is so much more versatile on a defensive squad and does more for the Steelers D than what Ed does for the ravens D.
Don’t get me wrong I think Ed Reed is the best FS in the game right now, but you can’t say either of them are the best safeties of all time until their careers are over. Ed’s reputation lately has rosen because of a good blocking defense. Look at the rest of the ravens when their is an INT. They are quick to diagnose the situation and get the blocks needed, allowing reed to rarely have to make moves to return a pick for a TD. He is not Deion Primetime returning INT’s, he is getting blocks and running through holes.
Once more Ed is good but you guys should back off the man’s nuts a little bit. He doesn’t have any rings and I don’t think he has played in an AFC championship game. Great player, best FS in the league right now but don’t crown him the best of all time yet, wait for his career to be over and put in respective what he does
by Bleed-Black&Gold on
Jan 6, 2009 2:58 PM EST
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Hello McFly!
Guys, they play DIFFERENT positions! Yeah, their both safeties, but their responsibilities are different. My stance on Reed being the best of all time will probably be echoed over time and has already started on virtually every channel you turn to. I guess you can call me a homer if you want to, but no one, including Troy, dominate or seem to be on a completely different level as Ed is.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Jan 6, 2009 6:23 PM EST
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that is where i disagree, Watching about every steeler game, I see Troy making an impact and ‘dominating’. He is always making plays, every game and they are not always the ones that make the highlights, he does dirty work and things behind the scenes. Granted I don’t watch every ravens game, but all of this greatest of all time is a little too early for a guy who has no super bowl wins, not even an afc championship win or appearance? I still say you gotta give it to the end of his career or at least 3 more years to see where he stands in INTs and SBs and whatever else you consider for the HOF.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on
Jan 7, 2009 4:15 PM EST
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Fine, then what about this?
If Reed continues his streak of 2-INT games (three in a row) this weekend and then in Pittsburgh the following week, and ends up Super Bowl MVP after taking one to the house against Eli, then will you humbly take a knee and annoint him?
Rexx
by Rexx on
Jan 7, 2009 6:15 PM EST
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There’s only room in his heart for the one true God: Troy Polamalu. Don’t hold your breath, Rexx.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on
Jan 7, 2009 6:17 PM EST
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lol you are talking about me thinking of TP as a god??? look at your tagline for crying out loud! lol
I am just comparing the two because those are the ones usually being compared. I can talk just as much about of Big Ben is starting his career better than Peyton Manning. So don’t even try to pull that one. You all are the ones trying to treat Reed like some deity.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on
Jan 10, 2009 3:00 AM EST
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anoint him as what?
how about this i will say whatever you want me to say if that happens! But if he doesn’t, all you have to do is say Polamalu would start over Reed.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on
Jan 10, 2009 2:43 AM EST
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let’s look at the numbers
INT FF TACKLES
BD 1 6 75
TP 7 0 73
ER 9 1 41
hmmm seems to me as if someone doesn’t really tackle often. And Dawkins plays the same position as Dawkins. Dawkins has probably had a better year than both of them despite the voting….
by Bleed-Black&Gold on
Jan 10, 2009 2:55 AM EST
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that table looked good before it was posted btw…idk what happened.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on
Jan 10, 2009 2:56 AM EST
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I do see Troy around the line of scrimmage a lot more..Reed used to blizt off the end but not so much anymore (5’8" Leonhard handling most of that). Troy is a shortstop while Reed is definately a center fielder…something could be said for which of those positions is more valuable to a team….Amongst everything else, Ed gets twice the props because of his unique return ability/speed.
The life of a Free Safety is not as stressful as a DBs. While the DBs battle it out 1 on 1 the FS’s get the money shots. As long as they play deep enough and keep the play in front of them its far more difficult for a Safety to get burned and booed. They can afford to play it safe. If Rolle or Washington get a step behind, it’s their ass. It’s because of the DB’s that the FS gets the picks at all. So many factors are involved with FS success.
by raven on
Jan 6, 2009 3:41 PM EST
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I Rather have Dawkins
Brain Dawkins and Ray Lewis on the same team? Or D would be fired up the entire game and sum. Dawkins brings so much leadership and intensity to that Eagles D. He the 2nd best leader in the NFL next to Ray Lewis. Not only that, he also makes plenty of plays. Not as many as Troy but enough to make the pro bowl. I believe that if both Troy and Ed were on the same team, they would get in to each other way. Troy likes to fly around everywhere and may end up going into Reed zone. IDK, I would Rather have Brain.
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by Benji5203 on
Jan 6, 2009 4:35 PM EST
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what about Joey Porter? He is an amazing leader too, I don’t really see Dawkins doing as much leadership as Ray or Joey
Troy does everything but is a very humble person unlike the likes of Reed. He is the ultimate teammate and can play with anybody. If he was on a team with Reed he would understand his role and give way to Reed to do his job while Polamalu is able to concentrate on a smaller zone, making him even better.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on
Jan 7, 2009 4:18 PM EST
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A very humble person unlike Ed Reed? What a bunch of crap. The ONLY thing I’ve heard about Reed all season other than his on-field antics is that he’s more than happy to let other people do his talking for him. I can’t remember even hearing a sound byte from him. In the future, feel free to keep your mouth shut about things you obviously know nothing about and let the big boys talk.
I also enjoy your speculation about what would happen in imaginary circumstances. But let’s take it a step farther. If Polamalu gave up football, he’d get his doctorate and cure cancer. He’d run for President and unite the world. His humble and open-minded football career is the only thing keeping him from curing world hunger. Obviously, this guy is ready for sainthood. How is there even a conversation about this? According to Blled-Black&Gold, there’s no comparing Mother Teresa to Troy Polamalu. What were we talking about again?
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on
Jan 7, 2009 5:31 PM EST
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lol
where do you get all of this from me saying he is the ultimate teammate and can play with anyone and that he is humble.
maybe i am making too much of an assumption because the ravens as a whole are arrogant and i heard ed reed’s interview after the dolphin’s game but that’s the feeling i really get from him and the team. i am not even talking much about polamalu but more of ed reed, so once again you ravens are doing it again, just trying to pick a fight out of a compliment. just take your compliment and shut up. i guess the only way to satisfy you guys if i say everyone sucks unless they play for the ravens, and then they would be the greatest players of all time. now that is an exaggeration but you guys really make it seem like that’s the only thing you are going to be satisfied with. I never even said Troy was better than Reed. just saying they do different things. sheesh calm down, i won’t compliment my players anymore for doing a good job. You guys are the only good team in the NFL and are a lock to win the SB.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on
Jan 7, 2009 5:49 PM EST
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I didn’t see you compelementing any Ravens players. All I saw was gushing about Troy Polamalu. Now that I reread your post, though, the vague pronoun reference at the end could possibly be refering to Reed. Even in that case, Polamalu is the source of all that is good and right in the world.
Now, I have no problem with Polamalu. I will unabashedly state that he one of the top players in the league today. My problem is that you are raving about the guy like he’s the second coming. I have the same problem with the media giving Ed Reed a reach-around. He’s great, but there are ten other guys out there allowing him to succeed. He’s just one cog in a magnificent machine.
Finally, don’t make the mistake of thinking that I speak for all Ravens fans, or even the fans that post here. I don’t. And I’ll call any of them out just as quickly as I’ll call you out if I see inane shit being posted. If you have an issue with something I’ve said, don’t resort to that same hackneyed “Ravens are arrogant and don’t play nice” crap. You are welcome to have an original thought at any time, and then use that to prop up your argument instead.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on
Jan 7, 2009 6:03 PM EST
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you didn’t read all of my posts then, i have some others either on here or on the steelers site, i forgot where i post sometimes but i gave props to Ed for doing what he does. I didn’t say Raven fans are arrogant, I said the actually players are arrogant. I like how they play because it allows us to beat them every time we need to.
Where was Ed Reed all before week 11? He has played great against PHI, WSH, JAX, DAL but can you give a guy HOF consideration just from 5 great games in a season? Now I know he has been doing good at points throughout his career but why all of a sudden he is the greatest of all time becuase of 5 games, which only one is a playoff team. (I still don’t consider the dolphins a playoff team and getting 2 picks off a back up QB really isn’t the same as 2 off of McNabb). Nobody is saying your precious FS is not good but you guys need to come down to earth and realize he has not been dominating many games this season.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on
Jan 10, 2009 1:47 AM EST
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but when he does show up, he is pretty good. he got 4 multi-interception games this year but in only 5 games he got a pick. he’s great.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on
Jan 10, 2009 1:59 AM EST
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Ed Reed’s been playing with a fairly serious neck/shoulder injury all year. Complications from — or a surgery to repair — an impingement could be career-ending, so count me as grateful that he even played at all during the first half of the season and content that he has limited his tackling this year (in reference to your graph above). He didn’t really stop looking like he was playing hurt until mid-November. He got all this Defensive Player of the Year hype from just half a season of work; if anything, that is a testament to his massive athletic ability.
In reply to a couple of your other points:
When I put in this signature, I didn’t realize that somebody out there would believe that I actually thought it to be true. So let me go on record now as saying no, Ed Reed is not able to get interceptions in cities that he isn’t currently playing. Take the stick out of your ass and laugh about it like everybody else.
I’m not going to search out your posts at other blogs, nor am I going to try to differentiate between the masses of people who couldn’t come up with a name more creative than a fill-in-the-blank “_ Black and/or Gold ______ Steel_____ I Don’t Live in Pittsburgh;” you’re all the same person posting for all I care. If I see something stupid being posted, I’ll respond to what is written there, not what that person thinks they may have written somewhere else in the space-time continuum.
If Ed Reed makes it to the Hall of Fame without winning a Super Bowl, he wouldn’t be the first. Other illustrious HoFers that never got their ring include Lem Barney, Bobby Bell, Elivin Bethea, and last year’s Andre Tippett. This is by no means an exclusive list. And, as far as I can tell, winning the Super Bowl isn’t a guaranteed ticket into the Hall. My prediction is that Reed goes in the first year he’s eligible and Polamalu might make it in some day several years after he’s first eligible; after all, they have quarterbacks and receivers to induct. The point I’m trying to make here is that there’s really no justification for holding Polamalu’s Super Bowl ring over Ed Reed’s head. The HoF voters — the people that actually matter — don’t care anymore than the posters here do.
Water covers 2/3 of the Earth's surface. Ed Reed covers the rest.
by Ampallang on
Jan 10, 2009 10:48 AM EST
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lol
it’s not funny nor true, just pointing out that your are trying to act like i think polamalu to be some great God and perfect in every form when you are the one with the tagline about Reed and suckin on his nuts when i am giving him props but that is not enough for you.
That’s is pretty stupid to try and talk about somebody’s screen name? Wow is that how you make an argument? Instead of spitting facts and stats, you talk about my sn? Wow nice job. Nothing stupid is being posted but your comments so maybe you should just stop arguing as you are no longer making points but trying to talk about me when the argument is about whether or not Ed Reed is the best Safety in the game, best Free Safety of all time and if people should be talking HOF already, what are you even trying to prove by talking about me? I am done arguing with you as I can clearly so how unintelligent you are and obviously not worth my time arguing with. You can think he is HOF material already but you are clearly not thinking rational with your decisions to change the subject. I am no longer going to argue with you especially since i can see your statements are but opinions and you are not presenting any facts or stats. Good luck to your team.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on
Jan 11, 2009 8:08 PM EST
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reed kind of called out pennington by saying “he stares his receivers down” in the post game. this comment came after he hugged and talked to penny on the field after the game. it was defiantely a stab at the guy BUT reed was just calling it like he saw it. the great ones do.
by raven on
Jan 7, 2009 6:11 PM EST
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That was not "grandstanding"
Yup, he was saying what they did to prepare for him and what he saw. It was obviously true and not a stab, just a way for Ed to give credit to the rest of the team for their preparation. Ask the rest of the league who’d they start a team around and I say a majority take Ed over Troy.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Jan 7, 2009 6:20 PM EST
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true…“stab” was the wrong word…he was just making a point but he said penny was a captain obvious qb… in a round about way
by raven on
Jan 7, 2009 6:34 PM EST
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Polamalu is a TV star.
Ever since he was a little kids jumping over furniture and then a high school star before he was filmed running into LaDanian Tomlinson on the sidelines. So he IS more diverse of a person, I guess. Troy makes the tackles while Reed changes the game and makes the highlights.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Jan 7, 2009 6:18 PM EST
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Reed
In seven NFL regular seasons, Reed has 43 interceptions. The NFL record is 81, set by Paul Krause, who played 16 years. he has now returned eight turnovers for touchdowns in his career.
They are some good numbers and thats with missing 6 games in 2005.
by section117 on
Jan 6, 2009 5:30 PM EST
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It's also difficult to compare
stats between two completely different generations of the league.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Jan 6, 2009 6:25 PM EST
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True that
Back then, you could actually touch a QB. I dont think Reed will get 81. He is 30 years old and i dont see him slowing down any time soon, but it will be very hard for him to get to that number.
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by Benji5203 on
Jan 7, 2009 2:43 AM EST
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you can’t say missing games as an excuse. That is part of the challenge of the NFL. Favre starts like every game and there are SO many other players who probably would have so much better stats if they have a long healthy career as some of the stats leaders. Polamalu has his share of injuries too.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on
Jan 7, 2009 4:20 PM EST
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missing games..imagine the the conditions Paul Krause played in. bad equipment. rock hard fields. But, he could throw receivers around at will and didn’t have to deal with 4.3 guys weekly.
by raven on
Jan 7, 2009 4:55 PM EST
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This was determined on the field yesterday
If playing superbly in the biggest game of the year is any indication of which safety is the best, Dawkins looked old and slow, Reed (who is from Louisiana and is my boy) was rendered ineffective by a veteran quarterback, and Polamalu was a game changer.
Representing in Louisiana since 1968
by LaSteeler68 on
Jan 19, 2009 11:32 AM EST
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