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Ravens Free Agents: Who Do We Re-Sign?

Below is a list of all our the Baltimore Ravens free agents, courtesy of KFFL.com. This is a total list of all starters and reserves on both sides of the ball, restricted and unrestricted. We certainly can't and don't want to sign them all, but there are those obvious resignings as well as some that are more important than you think.

I believe the NFL Salary Cap next season is around $123 million. However, unless the Collective Bargaining Agreement gets re-done before 2010, it will be an "uncapped" year, the first of its kind since way, way back. We certainly don't want to see this happen, as it will shortly turn pro football into major league baseball, with the big market, higher revenue teams grabbing all the high priced free agents and you just know someone like Jerry Jones in Dallas or Daniel Snyder in D.C. will turn into football's version of George Steinbrenner and the Yankess. What's so great in pro football is that at the beginning of every season, pretty much every team has a chance to get to the post season, while we know that's just anywhere nar true in baseball. While the Ravens would have the revenue to compete with the big boys, we won't have the depth of the cash that they have overall to pay the ridiculous contracts that will emerge from this mess. Hopefully, both sides will get together in the off season, elect a new head of the NFLPA, and together work out something acceptable to both sides before the 2010 season.

In the meantime, take a look at the list below and let me know who is a "must-keep," who is a "should-keep" and who is a "let-walk" free agent.

Pos.        Player Name                         Decision?

QB          Kyle Boller                            Walk

QB          Todd Bouman                       Walk

RB           PJ Daniels                              Walk

FB           Lorenzo Neal                         Should

WR         Terrence Copper                  Walk

WR         Demetrius Williams              Should

TE           Quinn Sypniewski                Should

TE           Daniel Wilcox                       Should

PK           Matt Stover                           Should

P              Sam Koch                              Must

DL           Dwan Edwards                     Walk

LB           Dan Cody                              Walk

LB           Ray Lewis                              Must

LB           Bart Scott                              Should

CB           Corey Ivy                              Should

CB           Derrick Martin                      Walk

SS           Dawan Landry                      Must

DL          Terrell Suggs                         Must

SS          Jim Leonhard                          Must

C            Jason Brown                          Must

(Did I miss anyone? KFFL.com didn't have Suggs, Leonard or Brown listed!?)

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I’d honestly rather see what terrance copper can do for our team instead of Demetrius williams. I mean we signed him, but he never managed to get any PT

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by Matchz Malone on Jan 21, 2009 11:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

He’s a special-teamer.

by BAL_Hawk on Jan 21, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My list...

…goes as follows:

QB Kyle Boller Walk
QB Todd Bouman Walk
RB PJ Daniels Walk
FB Lorenzo Neal Must
WR Terrence Copper Walk
WR Demetrius Williams Walk
TE Quinn Sypniewski Should
TE Daniel Wilcox Should
PK Matt Stover Walk
P Sam Koch Should
DL Dwan Edwards Should
LB Dan Cody Walk
LB Ray Lewis Must
LB Bart Scott Must
CB Corey Ivy Walk
CB Derrick Martin Walk
SS Dawan Landry Should
DL Terrell Suggs Must

You forgot…

SS Jim Leonard Should

Not many differences. I think that Scott is more important than Landry. I love Dawan, but I think that we should sign either Landry or Leonard… whoever is cheaper. I also said ‘must’ on Neal because I’m sure that we can still get him cheap for a few more years. Also, I think we can do better than Ivy. I like him, but he was a product of Ryan’s system. Now that Rex is gone, Ivy may not be as effective.

I almost put a ‘must’ on Edwards. He is awesome. He’s like Bannan. He could start on most teams, but we can still get him relatively cheap because he didn’t play last year.
He’s vastly underrated. I’m also a big fan of Wilcox. He does alot for our team and is a good backup for Heap.

All-in-all, the Ravens have excellent depth. Players like Edwards, Leonard, Wilcox and Neal personify the Ravens. They’re not superstars, but they do their job very well.

by BAL_Hawk on Jan 21, 2009 11:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would like to keep

Lorenzo Neal
Demetrius Williams
Quinn Sypnewski
Sam Koch – Must
Ray Lewis – Must
Terrell Suggs – Must
Jim Leonhard – Must
Dawan Landry – Must

Too be honest, I think one of the biggest MUST signs is Sam Koch. A lot of people do not realize how important that man is in winning games for us by making offenses drive 90+ on our defense. Plus, he is only 27 years old and WILL one day be a pro bowler.

Bart Scott, I am sorry man. You are a great player, one of my favorite linebackers we have ever had, but your spot is such an easy one to fill with this team. T-Gooden looks to be your replacement. And I dont even want to start thinking about the beast that is brewing in Jameel McClain. He is a faster version of Suggs and definitely showed us that he can contribute to our style of defense. 2.5 sacks and 2 safeties.

This may be the most exciting off season this franchise is going to see. I dont really know if I want to consider it a “Rebuilding” year, more of getting stronger and healthier. We have back ups that started for us and got us to this point, so imagine what our starters will do and then throw those back ups in there. Give Joe some weapons, add a guy or two to CB, and lets get healthy.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 21, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jason Brown is also not on the list. He’s a FA and a very important one.

Musts
1) DL Terrell Suggs – the AFC conference game, despite the shoulder injury that meant playing hard could have screwed his contract, he did it anyway. A lot of Talent and a lot of Heart and he really could be one of the leaders of this Defense if/when Ray Lewis leaves
2) C Jason Brown – If we want to have a great offensive line, we need to keep our best offensive lineman.
3) LB Ray Lewis – Arguably more important than Brown and Suggs for the short term, he gets dropped two spots because Suggs and Brown will play for 8 more years, and Ray won’t. Still, this defense won’t be the same without him.
4) FB Lorenzo Neal – The secret behind the McClain juggernaut. He’s excellent, and would be annoying as hell to replace him. Hopefully we can sign him cheaply.
5) P Sam Koch (RFA) – Too good to let go, he’s really stepped it up this year. A RFA, we need to be careful about giving him the right tender.
6) S Dawan Landry (RFA) – He is better than Jim Leonhard. A tough hitter and solid cover guy that does a good job filling out our defense. Young star players are important, if we let him go, we at least need to get a pick for him.
Should
7) Bart Scott – We don’t really want to lose both Ray and Scott, but I think everyone can agree which LB we’d rather keep. Scott is a good player, but we have great linebacker depth and can’t afford to invest too much money at this one position.
8) TE Quinn Sypniewski (RFA) – One of the few bright spots on offense in 2007. Q-Syp is a good blocker and underrated receiver. This injury hurt us more than people realize. He would have really helped our 2 TE sets.
9) S Jim Leonhard – I’d love to keep him, but I understand if he goes for the money someplace else. All heart and will, he did just about everything this season, but with our safety depth and his limited physical skills, he’s not an absolute must.
10) WR Demetrius Williams – should be kept cheaply, we can still dream that he’ll eventually develop into this deep threat we’ve never had. Injury issues really make us wonder if he’s worth it though.
11) PK Matt Stover – I can go either way on this one. He’s been great for so long, but when we have to keep two kickers on a roster, it might be time to say goodbye.
12) CB Derrick Martin – He’s actually an OK cover guy. The injury was really unfortunate as he would have vastly improved our DB depth. He’ll be cheap, so give him another chance to develop into something good.
Walk
13) DL Dwan Edwards – He’s not good enough to start, and not enough upside at this point to be a future starter.
14) TE Daniel Wilcox – He’s 32, just got married, and although I really like him, I think it’s time for him to hang up the cleats. He’ll always be remembered as Joe Flacco’s first NFL touchdown partner.
15) QB Kyle Boller – He’d actually be a perfectly fine backup, but I doubt he wants to stay here.
16) WR Terrence Copper – That drop in week 17 was really really bad. He has journeyman written all over him, and we need to revamp our WR corps in a big way.
17) RB PJ Daniels – Had a lot of potential. Had even more injuries.
18) CB Corey Ivy – Another all guts and glory player who frankly is too old and not physically gifted enough to warrant a roster spot. CB’s who are best rushing the passer are a mite overrated.
19) LB Dan Cody – Had a lot of potential. Had even more injuries.
20) QB Todd Bouman – If the Ravens like him so much, they should make him a coach. At 37, he no longer offers much on the field.

by math_geek on Jan 21, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Oh Yeah!

I think that Brown is our third-biggest free agent.

Terrell Suggs
Ray Lewis
Jason Brown
Bart Scott
Dawan Landry or Jim Leonard… or both!

by BAL_Hawk on Jan 21, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No release Brown so he can become a Steeler

by archon095 on Jan 21, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn Math Geek

I was about to post my list but you hit it spot on. I was going to mention Jason Brown as being vital to our young O-Line going forward, Landry being more important then Leonhard, and Derrick Martin being underrated and a good resign on the cheap. Seems like you read my mind. Good stuff

by DT711 on Jan 21, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome comments.

Regarding Landry, I like Dawan better than Leonard too. I remember the buzz in training camp… it was his third year and he really stepped up while Reed was injured. It’s a shame that he was lost to injury. However, I don’t know if he is a ‘must.’ Leonard gives the Ravens alot of flexibility in negotiations. They could let Landry walk if he wants too much. He’s a ‘should.’

Regarding Scott, Bart is a ‘must’ in my mind. First, Scott is a proven leader. Doesn’t anyone remember when Ray went down? Scott looked like a star. He’s aggressive, smart and physically-gifted. He will lead the defense when Ray is gone. Suggs is not a leader. Suggs fell apart emotionally before the AFCC game because he was injured. That’s not a good leader.

Second, Scott is a complete LB. In Baltimore, we have a plethora of fast, strong linebackers. It’s easy imagine any one of them stepping into Scott’s shoes. However, most of them haven’t proven themselves as complete linebackers. They are situational pass-rushers. A complete LB is a threat to drop into coverage, stop the run or blitz. When McClain or Barnes are in the game, everyone knows that they are blitzing. When Scott is in the game, he can blitz and cover. We will need that ability when Ray leaves.

Regarding Leonard, I would LOVE to see both Landry and Leonard stay. I think that Leonard would be an AWESOME nickel-back/safety. Many good defenses are doing that now. Instead of playing three corners, they play three safeties. It is very effective since most nickel-backs play in a zone anyway, and the nickel-package is seen alot in today’s NFL. I think that Leonard would excel in this role.

Regarding Edwards, I totally disagree. I think that Dwan could start for most NFL teams. Before this season started, Ryan was singing his praises, and he had an excellent preseason game versus the Pats. He has his best football ahead of him, and best of all, we can get him super-cheap. I think that it would be a shame to let this guy walk. It’s the underrated guys on the D-line that make it so good. In fact, it’s the underrated guys on the entire team that make them so good.

Other than that, I totally agree with you. I was high on Wilcox, but you made me reconsider. He is getting old, and Sypniewski is an emerging talent. It may be best to part ways.

by BAL_Hawk on Jan 21, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good points as well

I agree with Landry and Leonhard, but I think we can get it done with Dawan contract wise. I doubt his market value will be too high after he sat the whole season.

Regarding Scott, I understand your point but he is a definite third priority after Suggs and Lewis and I doubt we have the cap room to keep all three. Sure, T-Good or McLain might not be complete players yet, but they already have a season or two of Ozzie’s LB School under their belts. Remember, Scott was a raw late round pick out of Northern Illinois. He improved to become the player he is today. Just like the young guys can do.

I am not sure about Edwards. I think he has improved to the point where he could start for some teams, if healthy. I think he is a must sign if we let Gregg and Douglas go. If not, he is a luxury that would be nice but not necessary.

by DT711 on Jan 21, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bart=3rd priority?

No way, Dan. Jason Brown is way above Bart. Not too sure who else might be, but I’d definitely take those three and lose Bart, as I believe Bart is more part of a “system” than a great LB (see Adalius Thomas).

Rexx

by Rexx on Jan 22, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I ment LB's Rexx

You should no I have more logic then to think Bart has more value to us then the young leader of our O-line, Jason Brown. That is a no brainer.

by DT711 on Jan 22, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

should know

by DT711 on Jan 22, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No need to correct yourself

Okay then, I thought you’d either forgot Brown or actually thought Bart was more important than the veteran anchor of the o-line!

Rexx

by Rexx on Jan 23, 2009 8:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think one could argue

That Brown is our second most important resign behind Suggs, in regards to the teams long term future. Shit, you could even argue hes the most important as we have capable backups in place at LB, but none at C. Think of the value Jeff Saturday has to the Colts and Peyton Manning. Brown is nearing that level for us.

by DT711 on Jan 23, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It appears the Ravens have already signed Edwards to a 1 year 1 million dollar extension.

Meh… I’m not thrilled as I definitely think we need to get a better pass rush from our defensive line, but it’s not guaranteed, so he still has to prove his value to the team.

Right now we have Haloti, Trevor, Gregg, Dwan, Douglas, McKinney, and Divens, of which only Trevor can really rush the passer, and he’s kind of old. We need another big pass rushing lineman.

by math_geek on Jan 21, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Like Leonhard over Landry

Sorry, but I must not have seen the same guy when Ed Reed was hurt. Landry was absolutely lost out there, as was everybody else. Sure, he hits, but so does Leonhard, who also much more versatile and in on almost every tackle in the secondary. Landry wasn’t a cover man, and while he could hit, he wasn’t as solid a tackler as the little white guy.

Rexx

by Rexx on Jan 21, 2009 6:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I disagree about tackling

Landry is a very good tackler. He also hits harder then Leonhard. Sure Leonhard is fearless and throws his body at opponents but he is barely 5’8" 180lbs. It’s physics. 6’ 225 lbs has more force, and Landry was looking to be in great shape this year before he went down. Landry is solid in coverage as evidenced by his 5 picks his rookie season. His first year was great and he looked like a future star during the teams 13-3 run. I agree he was not as good in 2007, but who was? Everyone looks like crap when a team is 5-11. I have to believe that he would have come up huge playing in the NFL’s #2 Def this year. He has so much potential and could easily form the NFL’s best safety tandem with Reed, and be a perenial Pro Bowler for years.
  
I think Leonhard has, for the most part, come close to maxing out on his natural abilities. He will get better in regards to studying tendencies and understanding defenses. He overcomes his small stature by being super athletic and fearless. If he gets injured or begins to lose athletiscm when he ages, he will have a huge drop off and will no longer be a starter quality player.

Don’t get me wrong I would love to have Leonhard and would even let him battle Landry for the starting job. I just think Landry has so much potential it would be foolish to let him realize it somewhere else. He realistically could be just about as good as his brother and there is a reason the Skins took him with the #6 pick.

It’s a good problem to have to decide if we can resign two good safeties to go along with our All World FS and two young S prospects. I think Ozzie has many options and any one of them could leave us set for years. I trust him to make the best decision.

by DT711 on Jan 21, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like your point about Leonhard aging and losing some of his abilities.

At his age right now, mid 20’s, he has so much stamina and athleticism. But when he starts to hit 29, 30, he is not going to be able to play the same way he is now because of his size. Since nearly every offensive player today is bigger than Jimmy is, he would not be able to deliver the same shots a few years down the road. Landry is younger and definitely is a better open field tackler. Leonhard might have more speed than Dawan, but having a SS of Landry’s size is like having another linebacker out there who can play farther back and still deliver the hit.

This is in no way knocking on anything that Jimmy has done for us this year and SHOULD be able to continue doing in the future. Having both of them for our defense would be huge. We really could have 5 solid athletes back there who all bring something different to the table. It would be very smart to keep both these guys.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 22, 2009 2:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Leonhard and Reed would be a better receiveing corp. than Clayton and Williams.

by raven on Jan 22, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, still disagree

Landry’s five interceptions was more of teams throwing away from Ed Reed than Landry’s cover skills. Same as when Duane Starks had so many interceptions the Super Bowl year was because they were picking on him rather than C-Mac.

Rexx

by Rexx on Jan 22, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's all good

Like I said I think its a win win situation for us at saftey as we have so much young depth to go along with Reed

by DT711 on Jan 22, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one

who doesnt like Demetrius Williams….
He’s a bust in my eyes. I’d start with a clean slate from ravens receivers if i could, only holding onto Clayton & Mason.

Life is nothing but Beats & Rhymes

by Matchz Malone on Jan 21, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He was a 4th round pick

How can you label him a bust? It’s only his 3rd year in the league and he hes been injuried for must of it. If he can stay healthy for one year, he can really help out Flacco and this offense.

FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Benji5203 on Jan 21, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Injury is a big part of sports tho

He hasnt played a whole season since his rookie year :-/

On a side note: I think the NFL needs to start keeping track of drops, statwise. Baseball has errors, football needs something similar. Running backs and such have fumbles/tackles for loss, QBs sacks & interceptions… WR need drops

Life is nothing but Beats & Rhymes

by Matchz Malone on Jan 22, 2009 3:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Injury is a big part of sports tho
He hasnt played a whole season since his rookie year :-/

Injury-prone is a problem and a reason to wave bye bye.

Rexx

by Rexx on Jan 22, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps not a "bust"

but there are a ton of Demetrius Williams out there, in Free Agency as well as the draft. WR skills translate better to the pros from college as well or better than any other position.

Rexx

by Rexx on Jan 22, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thats all the receivers we have

by raven on Jan 26, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is it a possiablity that we let suggs go?

I know Terrell Suggs is a great Linebacker/DefensiveEnd, but do you guys think we should maybe let him go and draft another OLB. A guy I really like is Clint Sintim, LB for virgina. At 6’3, 250lbs, he is a perfect size for the hybird D we run. He already knows the 3-4 system(Virgina ran it) and he shouldn’t be off the borad when we draft. If we let Terrell go along with cutting C-mac, we could lock up both Ray and Bart and also, go after a CB or WR in F.A. or trade. We could then draft a CB in the 2nd round. Guys like Macho harris and Alphonso smith should be available. What do you guys think?

FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Benji5203 on Jan 23, 2009 12:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Please!

Suggs is a mental midget off the field but has become a really great game changing player on it. He has made the transition from a hand on the groud DE to a hybrid LB, as good as any in the league, includig Harrison and Woodley in Pittsburgh and as good as AD was when he was here. He is still very young and other than recently being hurt, never has missed a game in his entire career. That alone is worthe the big bucks. Give it to him now, he’s earned his payday.

Rexx

by Rexx on Jan 23, 2009 8:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no way

Suggs is a rare talent. Must resign.

by DT711 on Jan 23, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

suggs had 2 sacks with a bum shoulder..he keeps gettign better.

by raven on Jan 26, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

gotta keep Lorenzo or we won’t have a screen option…oh yeah, we have Ray Rice…right?

I think Rexx Ryan will go after Troy Smith to be his new QB and he might take a few D guys from us. I can see C-Mac going to the Jets along with Bart Scott.

by raven on Jan 26, 2009 11:22 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I actually want Troy Smith to go to the Jets.

The man deserves to be a starting QB in this league. I was really hyped when we drafted him and was excited to see him start this season. Too bad for his terrible illness, who knows where he could have taken us. The Jets do not have a solid QB for the starting position right now, as I think Favre is going to retire. Troy would fit into their scheme perfectly. Cotchery, Coles, and some decent RB’s, he would succeed there for sure.

It was a matter of time before Rex took a head coaching job, as we saw signs of him leaving over the last 3 years or so. I think it is safe to say that he is the best Def. Coor this team ever had, sorry Marvin. Rex just brought a type of defense that was nearly impossible to predict from just watching film. The Ravens have never seen as many players used at different spots as we saw this year. Come on, The Goose or Sam Adams dropping back in coverage and getting interceptions, HELL NO!

Good fr Rex, and if he took Troy, go Troy. The Jets are now one of the teams I will be rooting for.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 26, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure

Why everyone thinks Troy is going to be a NFL starter. He might get a shot but he has not shown himself to be a starter at the NFL level. He would have taken us out of the playoffs, that where.
To say your sure he would succeed as the Jets QB is really taking a leap of faith. My geuss is he has a career as a #2QB/Slash type player and is a decent spot starter, but NOT someone you build a team around. In other words, he’s no Flacco.

by DT711 on Jan 26, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No one is like Flacco

I am a fan of Troy and loved watching him at OSU. I just think he deserves his chance and from the little bit he has shown us, he could make all the right throws and decisions. Lets face it, if not for that loss to Florida in the national championship, we would have been a first day draft pick most likely and might be starting on another team right now. Never know.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 26, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He would *

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 26, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Possibly

And I’m not saying there is no chance Troy can succeed as a starter. I just haven’t seen enough from him to convince me.

I can agree with you that I would like to see Troy get his chance at some point but I’d rather keep him in our offense for another year. We can add more plays for him and Joe together. With Troy, Joe, Rice, McClain, Willis, Mason, Heap, Clayton and Wideout to be named later on the field (in some combination), we will have some serious firepower next year.

by DT711 on Jan 27, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely

We run the Wildcat better with 2 QB’s then all these other teams do with their Running Backs. Troy is a hell of an athlete. I only say this because I felt really bad for the man when he came down with the illness. If he never got sick in Pre-Season, Troy would have most likely been our guy throughout the season.

I am all for keeping him. IF and god forbid it never happens, Joe goes down, I have full faith in Troy to come in there and lead that offense. He does not seem to be complaining one bit about not getting as many shots as he would like, but we definitely found a place for him this season and I hope we can use him a little more.

Do we get rid of Boller or Bouman? I rather get rid of Bouman. To this team, Boller is like that unfortunate youngest brother who just cant seem to fit in but we still have love for him. Maybe when he gets healthy we can line Flacco at WR, Troy at RB, and Boller take the snaps.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 28, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Boller is as good as gone

Its a done deal. He costs too much to keep as a #3. Someone will pay him decent money – he has quality starting experience.
Either we keep Bouman or sign a diff vet QB who can school Joe, and help him become a man in this league.

by DT711 on Jan 29, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree in a way

I really dont care if we get rid of both todd and kyle. It would be nice to see Boller get another shot in this league though. As much as he struggled here, Billick played a huge role in that.

I hope Kyle can do some work in another place.

Still, biggest mistake in Ravens history is getting rid of Trent Dilfer. You really get rid of a QB that just won the superbowl? Good call.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 29, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yea I like Kyle

I hope someone lets him compete to start next year. Lions maybe?

by DT711 on Jan 29, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Troy Smith's best option is right here

He is not looked at as a starter and probably not even a backup in the rest of the league. The only reason he is still here is that he is familiar with our system but has not had anything nearly as promising a game much less a career compared to even the early Flacco results. That said, he would be out of football or in the CFL if it wasn’t for Baltimore.

Rexx

by Rexx on Jan 28, 2009 10:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he'd be out the league if not for us

With the Wildcat craze in full effect, don’t you think some team would pick Troy up to use in gadget plays at the very least?

by DT711 on Jan 29, 2009 9:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think he be out either.

He wins that national championship against Florida, we are most likely looking at Troy as a 1st-2nd round pick and starting in this league. They used his height excuse to cover up that they thought he dropped because of that last college game. Fact of the matter is that he is bigger than Drew Brees is, why cant Troy be good at his height? Doug Flutie was good.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 29, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He doesn't have Brees or Fluties Arm

Or their vision but he is more athletic and a better scrambler. I would like him to get a shot to start eventually, for another team (since Joe will be working on taking down CryBaby Farves consecutive games streak). I’d be curious to see how it pans out, but my money would not be on him retaining a #1 QB job for long.

by DT711 on Jan 29, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont know about the arm thing.

I remember during the combine 2 years ago, they did a drill to see who threw a football the hardest. Troy won the competition by throwing it 70 mph. I think he could still put up a good 65 yard bomb.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 30, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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