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With a big win over the Redskins, the Ravens are still plugging along successfully on their way to a playoff berth.  That three game losing streak really feels distant right now doesn't it?  Unfortunately, once again, the only team that decided to help our Ravens out this week were the San Francisco 49ers, only increasing the debt of gratitude us Ravens fans have for the excellent coach Mike Singletary (I was so angry when people were trashing him after the drama of his first NFL game.  Anyone notice how well he's done as an interim HC.  Of course, I love Mike Nolan too, so it's bittersweet).

The 49ers beating the Jets helped the Ravens even more than I had expected, because while it gives us three opponents from the AFC East for the playoffs, the best of those three teams will be the Division champion, so we're only competing against the second best of the Jets, Patriots, and Dolphins.  Because the Dolphins and the Jets play eachother in week 17, those teams have a maximum of 5 games between them.  Also worth nothing that if either the Jets or the Dolphins go 3-0, then they win their division with certainty.

What this means for the Ravens is that if the Ravens go 2-1, they win a wild card spot with certainty, as they'll have a better conference record than the Patriots, and only one of the Jets or Miami can go 3-0 and that will make them the division champion.  This leaves the Patriots as our most dangerous competition for a Wild Card spot.  NE could easily go 3-0, and if that makes life difficult if the Ravens go 1-2.

Dallas, however, did us no favors in giving away that Pittsburgh game.  An awful 4th quarter meltdown makes it very difficult for the Ravens to take the division.  There are exactly two possibilities that would cause a division victory.  First, I'm excluding the possibility that a Ken Dorsey led Browns can beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh.  It's just not going to happen.  This means that we need to beat the Steelers, and we need the Titans to beat them also.  If that happens, we can take the division by beating the Cowboys and Jaguars.  Alternatively, we can take the division if we lose to the Cowboys by the Strength of Victory tiebreaker (we ABSOLUTELY have to beat the Jags).  SOV is going to be really really hard, we're better off winning out (but that's also going to be really hard playing the Cowboys in Dallas under their terms and conditions.  The Steelers got to play them at home with a freezing field and no Marion Barber to expose their passing game to turnovers).  SOV boils down to the combined records of the Raiders (3-10), Dolphins (8-5), and Eagles (7-5-1) being better than the combined record of the Chargers (5-8), Patriots (8-5), and Cowboys (8-5).  As you can see, the Steelers have a freaking 2.5 game lead in this tiebreaker.  Sheesh.

1) Patriots @ Oakland - If NE loses this game, they fall behind us permanently in tiebreakers, and the only way they could finish ahead of us in record is if they win their last two games and we lose all three of our games.  Also, this would give us a full one game boost in the SOV tiebreaker with Pittsburgh.  New England is the biggest threat to keep us out of the playoffs right now.

2) Bills @ Jets - The Jets have much better tiebreakers against us than Miami does, which makes them a dangerous team also.  An upset win for Buffalo will be a big help.

3) 49ers @ Dolphins - Please keep up the good work Mike Singletary and the SF 49ers!  Still, we have the tiebreakers over the Dolphins and a Dolphins win would give us a .5 SOV gain on the Steelers.  By far the least important of the 3 NFC East games.

4a) Giants @ Dallas - Gives us .5 a win in the SOV tiebreaker, plus another loss for Dallas might cause a meltdown in that fragile locker room.

4b) Browns @ Eagles - Watch the Browns, after failing to win any games that might have helped us out, beat the Eagles to give Pitt a .5 SOV gain.  Still, with the way McNabb/Westbrook/JJ are performing, this is a likely .5 win for us.

4c) Chargers @ Chiefs - The Chiefs are one of the weirder bad teams in the league, but we can't expect them to beat the Chargers, as they are still terrible.  Still, where there is life there is hope.

7) Titans @ Texans - If we beat Pittsburgh, but the Titans beat the Texans, they will have no incentive to play hard against Pittsburgh, having clinched home field advantage.  Maybe Fisher rests his starters, maybe not, but we absolutely need the Titans to beat the Steelers to have a shot at the Division Title.

8) Lions @ Indy - The "Keep Dreaming" game of the week.  This is actually not very important anymore.  As shake n bake said, we are basically competing with Indy for the #5 seed.  If we can win some games, we'll be able to stave off the AFC East teams.  If we can't, than Indy losing games won't help us because they still have the tiebreaker over us.

This should be an exciting weekend for football, and a win against the Steelers will be by far the best help we could give ourselves heading into the final stretch.  Nevertheless, I'd love to see some help from these eight teams this weekend.

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7) Titans @ Texans – If we beat Pittsburgh, but the Titans beat the Texans, they will have no incentive to play hard against Pittsburgh, having clinched home field advantage. Maybe Fisher rests his starters, maybe not, but we absolutely need the Titans to beat the Steelers to have a shot at the WC.

Don’t you mean Division?

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by dayzd toe on Dec 8, 2008 8:02 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take the Lions!

It’s really fun to pick a bad team’s f irst win

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by the fix is in on Dec 8, 2008 9:33 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, we'll need to win out...

…if we want to take the division. The Steelers will have to lose to us and the Titans, and don’t expect Fisher to rest his starters, as that’s just not him, which is good for us. He’ll go all out as they might face each other again and he doesn’t want to give them any confidence.

If we end up a Wild Card, we will go to either Denver or I say the Jets. Trust me, neither of them want to see us, even at their home.

Rexx

by Rexx on Dec 9, 2008 10:35 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wild Card

This year it seems that no matter who goes into the wild card they will be better then the non-first round bye team they are playing. Both Indy and Balt/Pitt are better then the Broncos and AFC East jumble. Either way its pretty much a win

by archon095 on Dec 9, 2008 10:55 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we’re on raven island with no help in sight..have to win out..all we can do,

by raven on Dec 9, 2008 4:16 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah at his point dont the only games that really matter yours and the steelers?

by archon095 on Dec 9, 2008 4:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just saying you can’t rely on anyone..this weekend we had seattle fail, dallas fail, buffalo fail (should have been played outdoors)..we need to win out.

by raven on Dec 9, 2008 8:51 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, we only need to win 2 out of 3 to make the Wild Card. We will need help to win the division. Just cause we aren’t getting help doesn’t mean we won’t get it. We are going to lose most of these because they pit playoff caliber teams against inferior teams and we need the inferior team to win.

by math_geek on Dec 9, 2008 11:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 of 3

will definitely keep us in the Wild Card slot, as the AFC East will only send one team. At the same time, I can also see us only winning 1 of 3 and STILL making the post season based on tie breakers. However, I don’t see that happening. In fact, I see us going 3-0 as easily as us going 1-2.

Rexx

by Rexx on Dec 10, 2008 8:46 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Titans vs Steelers

Play hard or get hurt. Also, you plant in your teams head the result of the game. Losing is contagious.

by raven on Dec 9, 2008 8:54 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Titans!

You have to hate losing more than you love winning

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 9, 2008 10:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Modell signs

those signs they passed out kind of flopped..i didn’t hear any chants. did you?

by raven on Dec 10, 2008 12:03 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Disappointed

It was too cold and everyone went inside between the quarters (at least in the warm toasty Club Level), so we didn’t hear anything.

Rexx

by Rexx on Dec 10, 2008 8:46 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

 I bet you could have found some “big guns” to warm you up in the stands..lol

by raven on Dec 11, 2008 12:46 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm hearing they are going to PLAY HARD

they being the Titans. Teams that generally rest their players dont get far in the playoffs from what I read… Last years steelers being a good example. I think it was the AFC North blog writer on ESPN that was talking about it. Look for the Titans to play hard..

Life is nothing but Beats & Rhymes

by Matchz Malone on Dec 10, 2008 1:00 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lets keep drumming that point home..maybe the Titans will believe it.

by raven on Dec 11, 2008 12:47 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I asked on the Titans Blog

… They said their coach already said they would be playing the whole season through… I offered to make them cookies… LOL

Life is nothing but Beats & Rhymes

by Matchz Malone on Dec 11, 2008 2:03 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

*If they won*

Life is nothing but Beats & Rhymes

by Matchz Malone on Dec 11, 2008 2:03 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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