Would the Ravens be a Playoff team with Chad Pennington?
I thought the Ravens should have made a play to pickup Chad after he was released. Sure, I am happy we didn't, but how would things have been if Chad was the starter here instead of Miami?

For starters, there is no way the Dolphins make the playoffs. No Chance.
The Ravens would have been a similar team, most likely steadier, but less dynamic. By that I mean that Chad might have helped us win some early games (1st match up with Pit) by holding onto the ball and having better pocket presence. Flacco has improved in those areas so the difference now is negligible.
On the other hand Joe has added a big play aspect to the Ravens offense. God bless Mark Clayton for finally getting down field to be the recipient of Flacco's bombs. This is not part of Chad's game by any stretch. He is widely known for having one of the weakest arms in the league, but lets not overrate arm strength. The Jets were enamored by Farve's cannon, and we all see how that worked out for them.
Both guys are winners, and are humble, likable guys, who inspire confidence in their teammates.
Bottom line, I am obviously happy with the way things worked out (duh), as we finally have a franchise QB after 12 long years. But what would have happened if the Ravens had signed Chad, and let Flacco be his backup for this season?
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First post... for me..
To say yes or no is pretty subjective and you would have to ignore the Ravens ability to run the ball which has no doubtably taken allot of heat off of him. Chad is one of the most accurate passers in the game… short game that is. Chad can make the throws down field but is far less accurate than he is under 15 yards.
What Flacco brings to the table is the accurate down the field shot that leaves under neith routes free and less of a press coverage. The way the Ravens offense has operated this season, I think that is a crucial abilty that Flacco has over Chad, in the Ravens off.
The Ravens run game (forces 8-9 men in the box) coupled with a Qb that can’t successfully strecth field gives me flashbacks to last year.
So after all that said. No I don’t think we would be in this same position if we had Chad.
by thekoch on
Dec 30, 2008 12:05 PM EST
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Welcome to the beatdown
Koch is a frickin beast
by DT711 on
Dec 30, 2008 1:09 PM EST
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Welcome Koch!…If Penny was our QB we’d be 0-16 with the Lions. The only reason his record is decent is because every team that goes to Miami for a game goes to South Beach and gets hammered on Saturday nights. Now the Ravens are different, with so many Miami dudes on the team they know how to control their intake and have to hang out with family all night and watch What’s Happening on 19 inch balck and whites. Plus, they all remember Rays Boys Night Out in Atlanta and don’t want those black helicopter commando frame artists trying to extort money from them like Ray. The last game last year was a fluke…A Raven O-lineman passed out jello shooters at a local club and nobody made curfew except Stover (who was doing room check and taking names). So, Penny would have definately killed us.
by raven on
Dec 30, 2008 5:05 PM EST
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I dont even want to think about having him as our QB
I do not think we would be able to execute some of the “Unusual” plays that we use. Things such as a fake fullback run and have Joe run the bootleg out for the first down (Dallas Game) I think Flacco brings more athleticism to our team, as he is VERY fast on his feet for someone his size.
I will give credit to Chad that he is a very accurate passer and can put the ball where it needs to be, but I have yet to see him make throws this year that Joe would not be able to make. Joe has the strongest arm in the league next to Russell and Cutler. His 7-12 yard pass must come out at 75 mph and it right in the middle of the numbers. He has made throws to a WR that split the facemasks of 5 defenders.
I like what Chad is doing for the Dolphins, but I am unsure that he would lead us to a playoff team.
DT, what made you think that we would have gotten Chad before this season? Were there rumors of picking him up or is it just a “What If” kind of thing?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning
by Mr MaLoR on
Dec 30, 2008 12:28 PM EST
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When it looked like Boller or Troy was going to be the starter
I thought Chad would give us a better chance to win with our D. Manage the game, ala Dilfer, although Chad is more skilled. I suggested this during the speculation period when it looked like Pennington was out, Farve was in. Like I said, I’m thrilled we didn’t do it, since we have Joe for the next decade.
It did not hear any rumors that it ever was being discussed by any of the Ravens decision makers, I just thought it could have been a solid fit at the time.
by DT711 on
Dec 30, 2008 1:01 PM EST
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Yes you would be
For starters, there is no way the Dolphins make the playoffs. No Chance.
Agreed, we have been blessed to have him. We were supposed to be in rebuild mode this year. To be 11-5 and AFC East Champs is a blessing
"Chad Pennington should be MVP"-Woody Paige, Around the Horn 12-18-08
by rangerjae on
Dec 30, 2008 12:35 PM EST
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Why wouldnt you be?
with your above avg. running game and decent wideouts i bet he would have been nice for you guys too…he is CP10!
i also think Heap would be a Pro Bowler…then again..what the hell do i know about Ravens football? not much…dont care to either really.
I would just like to say its really sad that this sites “leaders” feel the need to come over the the best site on sb and talk smack….shows the class of your city as a whole..really, really sad. Matty..our leader….has been nothing but classy…..so why dont you take a page out of our book? maybe you will have over 1000 members like us oneday….NAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 30, 2008 5:06 PM EST
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We will take quality over quantity any day.
I would rather have an organized conversation with the 10-12 regular bloggers we have here then have a congregation with the 1000 members or w/e you got down south.
And who came over to your site and was talking smack?
It surely was not me, which is a surprise
You have to hate losing more than you love winning
by Mr MaLoR on
Dec 30, 2008 5:25 PM EST
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Hey Rzayo........nice to see ya here!
Is this where I was supposed to bring that Raven fan that was stinking up our blog over at the Phinsider? Wasn’t sure……well…..here he is…..Mr. Raven Fan in all his glory.

"We pride ourselves on playing smart, tough, disiplined football" Chad Pennington 12/28/08
by HuskerDolphin on
Dec 30, 2008 8:35 PM EST
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Hilarious photo!
But if he was a true Ravens fan, we’d be seeing that typical Baltimore plumber’s butt crack, so it must be a Miami fan!
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 30, 2008 8:39 PM EST
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weak comeback
like what’ll happen Sunday………….. you lose
"We pride ourselves on playing smart, tough, disiplined football" Chad Pennington 12/28/08
by HuskerDolphin on
Dec 30, 2008 8:41 PM EST
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SECTION 402 WOMEN
COME SEE ME WITH THAT BALT BEATDOWN….
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 30, 2008 5:07 PM EST
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I could
There are 8 tickets on stub hub in that section, 17 in 403, 52 in sect. 402.
by thekoch on
Dec 30, 2008 5:31 PM EST
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Not interested in sitting upstairs
Thanks anyway. Besides StubHub is way overpriced compared to ebay.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 30, 2008 8:32 PM EST
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THEN SHUT UP
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 30, 2008 9:47 PM EST
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Great comeback
but be sure that I will be there and will be proudly wearing my hideous Ravens hawaiian shirt, so look for me celebrating after the game! ;)
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 31, 2008 9:24 AM EST
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if i see a dude in a hawaiian shirt im close lining him no questions asked..just in case its u
then its to the arm bar till i hear SNAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 31, 2008 9:28 AM EST
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Are you sure you aren’t an eagles fan?
by steelguy99 on
Dec 31, 2008 9:32 AM EST
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u sure ur not a steelers fan?
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 31, 2008 9:36 AM EST
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After living in Ft. lauderdale for 2 years
And seeing that team beg and plead for people to buy tickets in Miami, I’ll stay here. You play in a baseball stadium. and at one point both the teams where in question of leaving your great city of transplants. Which is made up of old snow birds from NY. I’ll take my city hear that has sold out games since day one, sold out of psl’s. and sold out on the psl waiting list.
Its pathetic for the Sun Sent. to brag about a sellout than go to stub hub and ebay and see that you can as many tickets as you want and many for less than $100.
The best thing Miami could to do is tarp over half the stadium like Jacksonville does and sell ad space.
No one was slaming Chad here so don’t get so sensitive.
And as far as Rex asking for tickets? you take that offensive when its the truth. I flew down for the 2001 game. Got heckled by hillbillys and rednecks in the rain than saw all of them leave by halftime.
by thekoch on
Dec 30, 2008 5:28 PM EST
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I never asked for tickets?
I bought them on ebay for the October game this year in Miami and scalped them outside the stadium for the 2001 Super Bowl in Tampa and the same for the 1998 Super Bowl in Miami. The Dolphins are not rabid fans like they are in Philly, Green Bay, Pittsburgh or even Baltimore. Tickets are available and you could probably wait until an hour or so before the game like did at the Super Bowls and get them for below market price.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 30, 2008 8:36 PM EST
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wasn't taking a shot at you
someone on there forum is blasting you saying you got them all fired up to fly from one swell hole…ohio to another.. s. fla because of something you had said about the availability of tickets.
unfortunatly you can’t buy tickets at the gate like you could in 01… the scalpers have bought them all this year.
So you can find them outside of the gate.
by thekoch on
Dec 30, 2008 11:54 PM EST
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Thanks for clearing that up and welcome to the Beatdown
Never worried about scalping tickets as I’ve been able to grab them at great prices for Final Fours, Super Bowls and just about every other sport. As long as there is a chance to make and spend money, there’s a way to get what you want.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 31, 2008 9:25 AM EST
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WOW
your really uneducated when it comes to S.Florida sports….sites always buy up tickets in big towns….thats just the facts. Lakers games are sold out…but go to stubhub and there will be some.
We play in a baseball stadium??? The Marlins play in a football stadium you mental midget…its opposite. When Joe Robbie was built other teams copied its layout…how many stadium have the circluar exit ramps now? it was built for the Phins..but the Phins..for football….years upon years before the Marlins even were a thought. Marino was 10 years removed from his Super Bowl when the Marlins even played their first game.
hillbillies? rednecks? Miami? wow….guess youve never been to South Beach..or maybe that was just ur family around you.
your town is just happy to have football….after it got taken away….wow…and you wanna say the Phins almost left? NEVER…AND NEVER WILL…..BANK ON THAT FACT.
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 30, 2008 9:52 PM EST
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Loved the Club Level
The seating area was old, but the stadium is as well. However, the inside of the Club Level was nuts! It was re-done, open and huge, with tons of memorabilia, big screen TV’s, great food and super hot women. While we have a nicer seating bowl, your inside level plus the women have it all over us! How many points is that worth? Oh yeah, your fans are pretty quiet compared to ours. Trust me on that one.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 31, 2008 9:27 AM EST
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WE SHALL SEE HOW QUIET IT IS SUNDAY
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 31, 2008 9:29 AM EST
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Indeed, we’ll see what 20,000 golf claps sound like. I can’t wait.
by steelguy99 on
Dec 31, 2008 9:33 AM EST
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lol....its ok...stadium noise is not something even up for debate...ull see
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 31, 2008 9:36 AM EST
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The Ravens would still make the playoffs w/ Chad
Our offense would be a lot more conservative and focus even more on the short passes. Chad is very accurate bt doesn’t have the gun that Flacco has so the long sideline passes and trick plays that had the QB running would be out of the question. However, Pennington doesn’t make a ton of mistakes so the Ravens would probably control the ball almost as well and would still make the post season.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 30, 2008 8:38 PM EST
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Yes, we would have...
But, I dont care! Whacko for Flacco!
The difference is Flacco is 23 and Pennington is 32 and….
INJURIES
Nov 15, 2008 Foot
Nov 16, 2007 Ankle
Nov 02, 2007 Ankle
Oct 26, 2007 Ankle
Oct 19, 2007 Ankle
Oct 12, 2007 Ankle
Oct 05, 2007 Ankle
Sep 28, 2007 Ankle
Sep 21, 2007 Ankle
Sep 14, 2007 Ankle
Sep 10, 2007 Right leg
Sep 07, 2007 Pelvis
Jan 03, 2007 Calf
Dec 27, 2006 Calf
Dec 20, 2006 Calf
Dec 13, 2006 Calf
Dec 06, 2006 Calf
Nov 29, 2006 Calf
Nov 22, 2006 Calf
Nov 15, 2006 Calf
Nov 08, 2006 Calf
Oct 25, 2006 Calf
Oct 18, 2006 Calf
Oct 11, 2006 Calf
Oct 04, 2006 Calf
Sep 27, 2006 Calf
Sep 20, 2006 Calf
Oct 31, 2005 Right shoulder
Oct 31, 2005 Right shoulder
Oct 19, 2005 Right Shoulder
Oct 12, 2005 Right Shoulder
Oct 05, 2005 Right Shoulder
Sep 28, 2005 Right Shoulder
Jan 12, 2005 Illness
Dec 01, 2004 Right shoulder
Nov 24, 2004 Right shoulder
Nov 17, 2004 Right shoulder
Nov 10, 2004 Right shoulder
Oct 08, 2003 Wrist
Sep 24, 2003 Wrist
Sep 17, 2003 Wrist
Sep 10, 2003 Wrist
Sep 03, 2003 Wrist
by lespaul83 on
Dec 30, 2008 8:42 PM EST
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NEAR 100 RATING...16 STARTS....3600...ONLY 7INT...SIT DOWN
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 30, 2008 9:55 PM EST
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Wow, what great research!
I agree, and think neither team would trade their QB for the others.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 31, 2008 9:28 AM EST
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maybe i'll just check back in here every 3 days not every day
man its boring up in here……nice job on getting you family to sign up for a blog Rexx…..but maybe a few people ur NOT related too would make this site actually worth looking at.
You guys seriously lost me on “WE PLAY IN A BASEBALL STADIUM”…seriously….misinformed sad people.
all this smack and your best players ARE HEART OF MIAMI RAISED PLAYERS!!! we suck so bad…we are so lacking tradition….that WE PRODUCED YOUR BEST 2 PLAYERS..PROBALLY HALL OF FAMERS AT THAT.
i truly feel sorry for you guys…we have seen so much…you have to look back anbd call ur team the Colts to even remember anything pre 1990. sad as all hell…..
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 30, 2008 10:17 PM EST
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A football stadium ? Looks like a team that can't support itself

by thekoch on
Dec 30, 2008 11:58 PM EST
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kinda sounds like a Baltimore team you're talking about
The Miami Dolphins won’t be leaving in the middle of the night to go anywhere. Must suck to be so confused as far as who you are actually cheering for. Baltimore Colts? Cleveland Browns? In your local dictionary, did they take out the word “diehard” and replace it with “bandwagon”? Just curious.
You guys are going to lose Sunday. And you’ll be pissed about it. All 4 of you here can have a great debate about it. Enjoy.
"We pride ourselves on playing smart, tough, disiplined football" Chad Pennington 12/28/08
by HuskerDolphin on
Dec 31, 2008 12:05 AM EST
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Yup, you are correct
Our best players are Miami produced. There are a ton of players in the league from the U. Baltimore’s Ray Lewis is the unofficial “King” of the group as they hang w/ him during the off season, work out w/ him and keep in touch w/ him during the season. So what? They are Ravens now, my friend and those Miami produced players will go home to give tickets to all their friend and relatives (and we know they have a lot!), who will come to see them win Sunday!
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 31, 2008 9:30 AM EST
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Must be nice
to pretend like you wheren’t a jags fan last year… Or a bucs fan when they wen’t to the superbowl.
I’ll have fun on sunday watching Mclain run over ferg. and porter.
Hopefully joey doesn’t get shot in the ass this week.
by thekoch on
Dec 31, 2008 12:24 AM EST
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are you serious? lol
pretty big assumptions there. We here at the Phinsider are diehard Dolphin fans. We don’t jump ship nor change allegence when it suits our purpose. “thekoch”…….is that like your lifes pursuit in a nickname or just a lifestyle? You guys are gonna lose! It’ll be the greatest sports story and you’ll have to handle the shitty end of the stick. If Joey would get shot……geeeee , I wonder who I’d look at first as far as suspects…..
"We pride ourselves on playing smart, tough, disiplined football" Chad Pennington 12/28/08
by HuskerDolphin on
Dec 31, 2008 12:56 AM EST
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Joey? Joey Porter?
Is that the Joey you’re talking about? Is it the Joey of the past five or six games who has been old, tired with very few sacks or the one who feasted on weak opponents in the first part of the season. He wasn’t a factor in our first game and won’t be in this one. Joey Porter,….ha, you slay me!
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 31, 2008 9:33 AM EST
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joey has been quiet lately...but the rest of the d hasnt...and joey has 17.5 sacks....some against the pats/chargers...so ur stats are wrong
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 31, 2008 9:39 AM EST
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Joey has had a great year, but...
…he is getting long in the tooth and the rest of the team has covered for his lack of production lately. It could also be that every team is doubling him allowing others to get the stats. Agreed he is a factor, but even with the sacks and stats, he’s no Ray Lewis!
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 31, 2008 9:43 AM EST
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If Joey would get shot……geeeee , I wonder who I’d look at first as far as suspects…..
That’s just funny.
by steelguy99 on
Dec 31, 2008 9:36 AM EST
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Are you serious???
YOU’RE 44! Using that type of insult. What’s the matter with you?
by stalkingbamby on
Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM EST
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lol ...jags n bucs....NEVER omfg...NEVER
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 31, 2008 9:30 AM EST
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Thats what you could call Freudian slip
Koch is prenounced Cook and its also the ravens punter…. i gues lusting after men is your lifes pursuit.
I love how you over at the fin forums love to take personel shots at people from behind a computer monitor. And your 44? pathetic..
The story is over, it was great while it lasted and now the Tuna is going to jump ship and your team will be 8-8 if your lucky next year.
by thekoch on
Dec 31, 2008 3:27 AM EST
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I would think
that Cam would have a much different playbook with Chad over Joe. His name escapes me at the moment, but the Miami Offensive Coordinator has done a wonderful job at using Chad’s positives (most obvious his accuracy) while hiding or dimishing his negatives (really just his arm strength). As someone has mentioned, CHad has been injured but the Dolophins have managed to keep him healthy. As much as I love what the Ravens have done to re-invent themselves, what the Dolphins have done this year has been much more impressive.
Looking towards this game, neither team can look to their first meeting this year and expect to face the same team. The Dolphins have rattled off an impressive and long list of victorys. They will have key players that they didn’t have due to injuries (that nose guard dude is impressive). But the Ravens have vastly improved as well. It seems now that Flacco is allowed and confortable with hitting the deep pass. Megahee seems to have gotten his head together and out of his rut. Also, Ray Rice should be available as well. Win or lose, both teams and fan bases should be elated to reach the playoffs. If should be a great game.
"When they get drafted by the Baltimore Ravens, we expect them to play like that. Are we surprised? No."
by UMBC Oriole fan on
Dec 31, 2008 7:09 AM EST
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first post
i’ve been thinking of signing up for a while, but all these ridiculous miami fans convinced me that i needed to jump in this. if you guys have forgotten, we destroyed you IN MIAMI earlier just this season. since then, our team has gotten much better and according to the fanpost on your blog, has improved more than yours. also, when we played you last time you had camirillo and martin was healthy and neither of them are healthy now. so i really don’t see what your bragging about. and for some reason everytime i read one of your posts the numbers 27 and 13 come to mind.
besides, miami is a piece of shit city. it is flooded with ignorant tourists, strip clubs, and those gay sunsation stores.
by ihatethesteelers on
Dec 31, 2008 9:29 AM EST
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yea.....strip clubs suck dude
but im sure we can find a nice man for you.
you people calling Miami a crappy town are the same people who send ur granpa here to live his life out…and the same people that come here on vacation from ur crappy towns….never been to Balt…but im sure its nice n all…just diffrent. this is about football….not citys to live in…if u grew up somewhere its the best…and u cant be talked outta it…thats whats great about our country.
i for one could care less about week 7….too me it was a good game outta u guys…and we both have changed a SHIT LOAD. so well see when the toe hits pigskin….really we have wished good luck over there all season long to opposing fans…this is the playoffs…so no good luck wish here….but no offense taken in smack talk if u dont take any. im sure u guys are good ppl…but its the playoffs…..so things get heated
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 31, 2008 9:34 AM EST
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Have to agree w/ you on this one, Rzayo24
I’ll take Miami over Baltimore based on weather alone. We’ve both got the crime, drugs and dirt. However, the tan lines, or lack thereof, as well as the beaches and night life have you on top of that list anyday.
See, we can be objective over here. How’s ‘bout lightening up on the personal atttacks and I’ll reign my boys as well?
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 31, 2008 9:37 AM EST
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i have no control over anyone else....
i made a general laughing post joking calling out “alien lips suggs”….and then u got mad..its ok..this is what makes the NFL what it is. playoffs….i mean….ppl are happy JUST TO BE A TOP 12 TEAM!
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 31, 2008 9:46 AM EST
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Alien Lips?
He looks like Bubba from Forrest Gump, but he is a machine on the field. We will take him and his lips on our team.
by section117 on
Dec 31, 2008 10:01 AM EST
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he is a ugly man..but pretty good
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 31, 2008 11:34 AM EST
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Welcome to the Beatdown
Great to finally get you in here. Yeah, they are very angry over at the Phinsider and don’t seem to handle the smack w/o ending up making persoanl attacks.
At the same time, no comments about their Sunsation stores, as Ocean City, MD is flooded w/ them as well. Also, I’ll take South Beach over anything we’ve got and their women make ours look like TPT.
Rexx
by Rexx on
Dec 31, 2008 9:35 AM EST
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I concur on the women
It was my favorite part of going to F.A.U. I’ll say this about south fla. great place to visit not live. Rzayo24’s hometown of west palm is nice though. I would say the broward county w. palm line is almost night and day.
by thekoch on
Dec 31, 2008 9:47 AM EST
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I LIVE IN CORAL SPRINGS...AND WENT TO FAU..BEFORE I WENT TO FSU
broward and dade are completely diffrent. you can knock the streets of miami…like anywhere……ohhhhhh who cares!! i wanna talk football…lol….
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 31, 2008 11:33 AM EST
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all i'm saying is...
lol JUST KIDDING. even though people are going to make a big deal out of this anyway i just thought it was funny.
by ihatethesteelers on
Dec 31, 2008 10:21 AM EST
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nobody really hates phins fans...we are easy to get along with normally
thats not our rep,….so the image is funny…yet no correct
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 31, 2008 11:35 AM EST
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somehow
You havn’t convinced me to prove that.
by stalkingbamby on
Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM EST
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that sentence doesnt make sense
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by Rzayo24 on
Dec 31, 2008 2:51 PM EST
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Yeah
How can anyone hate them 80 year old retired people that live in Florida or the cubans they make the best Cigars.
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Jan 2, 2009 9:44 AM EST
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