everything got messed up because rex had to rotate the defensive coverage last minute… anyway how do you post a pick here is it HTML or like forum coding?

His throw to Mark Clayton late in the game when we thought we were getting into field goal range before Cam playcalled us out of it was agreat throw into coverage. I just don’t think that the playcalling was good at all. Too many times Flacco had to throw in obvious passing situations that Cameron put him into and the Steelers defenders were ready. Throwing on third down rather than second played right into their hands. Way too conservative.

if both of his feet are touching the ground with ball over the line…. even in the motion shot.

I’ve never seen it happen though. The closest is PI on the one yard line.

I think the defender would have to kick a guy in the nuts, punch him in the face, and crap on his chest.

It links to the official rulebook asshat, which he quotes from. Or maybe the tribune made up the entire PDF. It’s a conspiracy!

The rule doesn’t specify if the ball or just the receiver has to be on or behind the opponents goal line. Judging by the rest of the TD rules in the NFL one would assume, and rightfully so, that the ball has to cross the goal line.

PAUSE

and the HD tv sets they had, they obviously believed there was enough evidence.

so you guys can argue all you want but in the end, the call on the field was made, it didn’t really have as much of an impact on the game as you believe because we still have 4th down and possibly overtime to go to.

so cry about not wanting to read the beginners rule book but the fact is, is that it is a OFFICIAL rule book, and maybe you should just focus on next game because the last game is over. look for the official review on NFL Network, that might clear things up.

I dunno if you seen this link but I think this should clear up some confusion.

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/beginnersguidetofootball

 TOUCHDOWN = 6 POINTS

A touchdown is the biggest single score in a football game. It is worth six points, and it allows the scoring team an opportunity to attempt to get an extra point. To score a touchdown, the ball must be carried across the goal line into the end zone, caught in the end zone, or a fumble recovered in the end zone, or an untouched kickoff recovered in the end zone by the kicking team.

As you see all you have to do is catch the ball in the endzone and it is a touchdown. There is requirement for the ball to also cross the plain. When you catch the ball you have established yourself in the endzone and when you touch the ball the ball becomes apart of you so its a touchdown. End of story

Now stop your whining and get ready for those Cowgirls cause if you ain’t careful they’ll put up 30 points you ya.

all you want but what matters is the head official’s opinion on the field and in the NFL and both agree that it was a touchdown, Mike Peirara has already said he made the right call.

B says yes it counts where his feet are, a first down is a different scenario and hence it is placed in a different section of the rulebook, if they had the same implications then they would probably be mentioned somewhere together but it is a different rule for the touchdown.

That should answer your first question, the rule says that if a player is still or moving backwards but already in the end zone, then he only needs to take hold of possession of the ball while he is in the end zone. Whereas I believe people are confused because of the common scenario that a person is carrying the ball into the end zone. There is a rule that says if a player has momentum coming from the field of play, he only needs to have the ball cross or touch the goal line, to declare a touchdown. But santonio was standing still into the endzone, not running towards it from the field so you have to go to the first scenario and he does hold possession of the ball while he was in the end zone so it is a touchdown and it is irrefutable evidence showing that.

because my offense, including BB has 50 seconds and 2 timeouts to drive the field from the 50 yard line and couldn’t do anything. They still had a chance. Plus when it is 4th and nanometers, i do like the offense’s chances of punching the ball in the end zone.

to me, it’s not about whether the play was a TD. My main argument is that there wasn’t enough evidence to overturn that call, so to me the whole replay system is a farce. Indisputable means indisputable, and since there are thousands of people arguing it all over the eastern half of the country, it wasn’t indisputable

in·dis·put·able
Pronunciation: \ˌin-di-ˈspyü-tə-bəl, (ˌ)in-ˈdis-pyə-\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Late Latin indisputabilis, from Latin in- + disputabilis disputable
Date: 1551
: not disputable : unquestionable
— in·dis·put·able·ness noun
— in·dis·put·ably \-blē\ adverb

I’m amused that just because I’m a steelers fan, I’m just supposed to see everything through the glasses that say that anything good for our team is correct. I guess I only sweat black and gold though, and don’t bleed it.

During any Ravens games, the headphones that the Reds put on go to a bright red phone where ever Roger Goodell is. It is called the F.O.R phone, standing for Fuck Over the Ravens. The Ref says that there was a TD caught but they called it out of bounds, hoping Harbaugh wouldnt make the challenge. So Goodell would tell them to no matter what, dont make it a TD. Also, he contacted the Refs during the Tenn game by text message and told them to call a roughing the passer on Suggs, even though his hand came down on the shoulder of Colins, while being blocked, while trying to sack the QB, while trying to swat the ball. He hit his shoulder, some rough and tough football right there.

Last year, Goodell was at out Pats MNF game, and made sure to put a magnet in the yellow flag. Bart was really just trying to pick it up and give it back to the Ref, but the high powered magnet was attracted to a piece of medal in the Stands.

So, with this previous weeks game, when they went to review the play, the headphones go on, the magic red phone, F.O.R, rings, Roger answers, “Hello, that was not a TD, but make sure to call it a TD. The Steelers are one of the faces of our league, god forbid we let a murderer and QB with one eye brow do well in this league, Thanks Walt. Hey Walt, do you want to come to my house tomorrow night and we can exchange wives for a night.?” Walt: “OMG that sounds so much fun, you bring the Ketchup, I will bring the Mustard, and we can make a Manwich!”

Sorry, Finals are driving me insane…..

You guys won, we give you credit for that. You had to drive 92 yards in 3+ minutes after being shut down all game, and you did. You deserved the win.

But to claim that we are only saying its a bad call because it was for the opposing team is asinine. If were just being bitter then why would non biased spectators such as Tom Jackson (+ many, many others who have nothing to do with the Ravens) question the call as well. Like people have repeatedly said, there was not indisputable evidence to overturn the call.

I can take the opposing stance and say the only reason your so sure it was a TD was because it was for your team. Since I’m sure you will disagree with that statement, please stop your claim, as there are other motives at play for us questioning the call rather the just blatant homerism.

Your beginners guide is not the end all rule book, I’m sorry to say. It is made for the casual fan to get a basic idea of the game. It is a condensed version and should not be taken word for word in complex situations such as this.

On your claim that Mike Peirara backed the call….. Of course he did. He is not going to throw his official under the bus unless it is 100% clear that a mistake was made. I cannot say for sure it was not a touchdown, but I don’t see how anyone can say for sure it was, especially after the call on the field was made. That being said, the official made a judgment call, which in his mind was the right call. Another official might have upheld the call on the field. It all depends on the situational variables at the time. Either way, if my employee made that call, I’d have his back as that’s what good bosses do in those situations.

Lastly, we are having a discussion about the call, trying to justify it’s questionable reversal. It’s part of post game analysis for any fan. We are not trying to take anything away from the Steelers, as I mentioned earlier, they are the deserved AFC North Champs. Why do you have such an issue with Ravens fans discussing a wrong call possibly being made? It is a huge national topic for a reason. It is totally reasonable for us to have this discussion on a Ravens blog. If it annoys you that we are discussing it, then stop posting on this thread. The worlds not all black and white, there’s a grey area in everything. You should check it out sometime.