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Eagles @ Ravens: Gameday Open Thread

Post your comments and opinions throughout the Ravens-Eagles game today in the Open Thread on this post. Unfortunately, I will not be able to join you as I will be in my seats at the game, freezing my butt off and enjoying every minute of it!

If the Ravens, or the Eagles for that matter, want to stay in the hunt for the playoffs, this is a must-win game as both teams trail in their divisions, although the Ravens are the only one who actually has a chance of winning their division title, while the Eagles only chance appears to make it through the Wild Card.

The cold weather may affect the fans in the stands, but should not make any difference to the players, unless there is enough of a breeze to affect the kicking game or the flight of the ball. However, the weather reports I've seen are expecting a high of 40 degrees with winds around 5-10 mph, so the weather should not be a factor in this game. The main factor that will determine the outcome will be which team makes the most critical mistakes. Both teams put strong defenses out on the gridiron that can capitalize on their opponents turnovers. The Eagles possess the better offense, although you wouldn't have known it by the result of their most recent game, a 13-all tie at Cincinnati last Sunday. At the same time, while the Ravens were averaging around 35 points per game during their four game winning streak, that all came to a screeching halt when they could only manage ten in their 30-10 loss last week to the NY Giants. So while another tie game is always a possibility, something has to give when they meet today in Baltimore.

The Baltimore Ravens have the third best home field winning percentage in the entire NFL since the 2000 season. Do not underestimate the difference this makes to the Ravens, as well as the disadvantage the Eagles face on the road, as witnessed by last week's embarassment against the Bengals. The Ravens regularly score around 10 more points per game at home than they do on the road, although they have won three of six this year as visitors and just finished a stretch where they played five of six on the road. Now they return home to M&T Bank Stadium, where they will be happy to play four of their final six there the rest of the season. If they can sweep the remainder of their home schedule and split the other two on the road, they should be in fine shape to make the post season. If not, then all bets are off, as the playoff race will be hotly contested, with a bunch of teams in line to fight for the two Wild Card slots. Therefore, this game is key if they want to stay on track for meaningful games in December and postseason play in January.

A win for the Ravens will all but eliminate the Eagles from post season consideration as they will drop to the basement of the NFC East. Thus, the Eagles will be playing as hard as the Ravens to stay in contention. The Ravens need to play their type of game, running the ball effectively behind their makeshift offensive line, which has been a pleasant surprise so far, but is severely limited by injuries. If they are able to sustain their rushing success, be it through Willis McGahee, Le'Ron McClain or even rookie Ray Rice, that will take the pressure off of rookie QB Joe Flacco, to carry the team on his arm. In the Ravens victories, Flacco has had great success throwing the ball when needed, as the defenses have been stacking the line and he has come through in a way that has made his progress a lot more advanced than anyone would have thought. His arm is as strong as anyone's in the league and he has limited his turnovers in our wins, but has thrown costly interceptions in our losses. To have to rely on him to move the ball against a tough Philly defense would not be the recipe the Ravens are looking for Sunday. However, with an effective running game Sunday, Flacco can complement the rushing attack with passes that will impress the Eagles players as much as they will frustrate them.

Defensively, the Ravens need to shut down the running game, with or without Brian Westbrook, who will be a gametime decision. Either way, the Eagles will need to pass the ball effectively in order to beat the Ravens. There is no Brandon Jacobs on the Eagles, so they will not be able to run the ball like the Giants did last week. Expect Donovan McNabb to put the ball up at least 40 times, and if so, I expect at least two picks that should give us the short fields and some easy points on the board. The pass rush needs to either sack him, hit him, or harass him enough to make him run for his life and pay the price for leaving the pocket. Our defensive secondary needs to step up and blanket his two deep threats, Hank Baskett and DeSean Jackson, while not letting the Eagles tight ends or running backs get open in those short, underneath slants that have plagued the Ravens this season.

I fully expect a solid defensive effort and a typical Ravens ball control, timeclock consuming offense as we win not only the time of possession battle, but the turnover battle as well. We should stay solid on Special Teams, and could break the game open with some good returns, while limiting the Eagles at the same time. If we win those battles, then we will win the war as well. McNabb will probably put up big numbers, but the Ravens Red Zone defense will stiffen up and limit the scoring enough to let our offense win the game. Look for a low scoring game that ends up looking closer than the game actually is. I am predicting that the Ravens will take a decent lead into the latter stages of the game, with the Eagles scoring to make it close at the end. However, another turnover will seal the deal and the Ravens will run out the clock to win and move to 7-4, and stay within striking distance of the Pittsburgh Steelers, making their December 14th rematch here in Baltimore look even more like the divsion title deciding game.

Ravens:  20-13

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Lets Go!

Not gonna be hear to talk with ya guys.

But you know we got this win in the bag.

31-13 Ravens

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 23, 2008 10:25 AM EST reply actions  

Defensive Game

I dont think the Ravens will be putting up more then 20 on this eagles D and vis versia. I say 20-17 Balti.

FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Benji5203 on Nov 23, 2008 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

Ha, this game is brilliant so far. 3-0, loving it.

by steelguy99 on Nov 23, 2008 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

me 2!

FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Benji5203 on Nov 23, 2008 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. Brilliant catch for the TD. You guys might want to consider just punting the ball on 1st down and letting your D do the work.

by steelguy99 on Nov 23, 2008 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

ur probly right

FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Benji5203 on Nov 23, 2008 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

and just like that

TD back to back

FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Benji5203 on Nov 23, 2008 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

Did we really...

Run the ball on 3rd and 30???? im sorry, theres no way your picking that up on a run. Even close to it

Life is nothing but Beats & Rhymes

by Matchz Malone on Nov 23, 2008 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

We went for the run on 3rd and 30 just so we could get a few more yards for the punt, it wasnt to get the first down.

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 23, 2008 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

This first half was really a treat to watch. Great football game by both defenses. The eagles selling out on the blitz is a thing to watch, and the opportunistic nature of the ravens is borderline absurd.

When Kolb came in the second half I gave up hope on this game. This turned out to be a very good thing as instead of being emotionally invested I could just laugh at the hapless eagles as the ravens systematically destroyed them.

In case any one is keeping track, this was the first win by either the ravens or steelers against a team that has beat the other. It took awhile. The ravens D made the eagles O look like the steelers O against the eagles D.

This is going to be a great last 5 games for both teams. Should come down to the wire, and PIT @ BAL is going to be a classic.

by steelguy99 on Nov 23, 2008 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

Um, I posted that when it was already a blowout. The extra 20 points at the end of the game really doesn’t affect my opinion.

by steelguy99 on Nov 23, 2008 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Just remember the old “you’re never as good as you look after a big win, and you’re never as bad as you look after a bad loss.” The ravens have the potential to make it to and even win the SB. The ravens also have the potential to miss the playoffs entirely. As do the steelers.

If the ravens are at the top of their game it’d be hard for any team to beat them, but you could say that about a lot of teams. The eagles game is about as an impressive display of domination as it gets against quality opposition. Does that mean that no other teams ever stand a chance against them ever again? I think the answer is no.

by steelguy99 on Nov 23, 2008 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t call any Reid/McNabb run team “quality opposition.”

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Nov 23, 2008 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

If you want I can say that you guys haven’t beaten anyone good, but I’ll leave that to the national pundits and instead grudgingly respect the ravens.

As much as I’d like to say that the ravens didn’t look good today and that the eagles looked bad, that’s just not how it went down. The ravens embarrassed the eagles and fully deserved their win. Yeah mcnabb looked terrible, yeah the eagles running was awful and their OC worse (2nd and goal interception pick 6 – classic!). In the end though it’s not the eagles who deserve credit for the loss, it’s the ravens who deserve credit for the win.

Like I said though, if you want to hear that the ravens suck and haven’t beaten anyone with a winning record besides Miami, you can listen to the media, because I don’t buy it.

by steelguy99 on Nov 23, 2008 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Its good to hear from u steelguy

makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. PAUSE. that someone respects the ravens as a team. but hey, i kind of like being under the radar. The way its looking right now we might just sneak into the post season

Life is nothing but Beats & Rhymes

by Matchz Malone on Nov 23, 2008 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Gee, I believe I remember....

….these same Eagles putting a hurting on your Steelers and beating them up on the field and 15-6 on the scoreboard. But of course, you’ll have something to note that “excuses” your loss and not give us credit for shutting out one of the highest scoring offenses in the league.

Rexx

by Rexx on Nov 24, 2008 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Well...

That turned into a blowout. How soon before people start comparing our Eagles win to say the win over the Dolphins?

"When they get drafted by the Baltimore Ravens, we expect them to play like that. Are we surprised? No."

by UMBC Oriole fan on Nov 23, 2008 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

Already started

We’ll never get respect… its a fact

Life is nothing but Beats & Rhymes

by Matchz Malone on Nov 23, 2008 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Fine w/ me.

I’d rather have that chip on our shoulder and sneak up on everyone. The experts will continue to pick against us and the other teams will continue to not want to have to face us. Both things work fine w/ me!

Rexx

by Rexx on Nov 23, 2008 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, what a great fourth quarter

I was getting pissed that we weren’t taking advantage of the gifts that the Eagles were giving us all game. Finally we put together a drive and a great slant pass for the TD. Our defense was pitching a shutout and when the Eagels got down to the goal line, I thought we sat back and let the score too easily. Stupid me, as I went hoarse when Ed took it 108 yards to the house!

Now what, huh!?

Rexx

by Rexx on Nov 23, 2008 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

Did anyone else think

That pulling McNair was…a very odd thing to do. Granted he has struggled at the start of the last few games, but with a 3 point game at the half and the fact that McNair traditionally does better in the second half, who in their right fucking mind puts a rookie, well basically rookie, QB in against our defense. How demented do you have to be to think that is going to work? I read somewhere that Reid didn’t even tell the two about the change during halftime. What the fuck is up with that? I honestly think Reid has lost all touch with reality.

"When they get drafted by the Baltimore Ravens, we expect them to play like that. Are we surprised? No."

by UMBC Oriole fan on Nov 23, 2008 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

ppl who think our defense is actually some shit

and that mcnabb was just having a bad day…

Life is nothing but Beats & Rhymes

by Matchz Malone on Nov 23, 2008 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I am a crappy speller

"When they get drafted by the Baltimore Ravens, we expect them to play like that. Are we surprised? No."

by UMBC Oriole fan on Nov 23, 2008 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that game was definitely enjoyable

It is hard to get super excited when they put in Kevin Kolb to let us blow it wide open. That was just a silly thing for them to do. However, anyone notice the major offensive adjustments after the half? Maybe their D was just demoralized, but I thought our offense looked way better in the second half, and that TD pass to Clayton was beautiful.

by math_geek on Nov 23, 2008 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

our offense looked way better because our D gave us great field postion on every drive. Our O was able to convert on those small drives and not any long ones. The eagles D played very well and just gaev up at the end when they were getting destoryed.

FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Benji5203 on Nov 23, 2008 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but we were getting field position in the first half and with the exception of the Dan Wilcox TD pass we weren’t really doing much with it. In th first half we could move the ball half way and then punt it to pin them back, which was great, but much better to actually get some scores. Still, if you look at Flacco’s line before and after the half it’s completely different.

by math_geek on Nov 24, 2008 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes!!!

I cant wait to see if our D will do that to big ben. I want to see him get benched as well!!!!!

by RayLewisForPresident on Nov 23, 2008 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

You guys like to forget that we already played you this year. :)

Could happen the second time around though, Ben is a walking inconsistency.

by steelguy99 on Nov 24, 2008 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

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